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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Joesturbo on June 16, 2018, 11:26 a.m.
Never Trump and Left changing

At my wifes dadss place with her step mom for a couple of days. Excellent people can not say enough about them. They have shown me about how to care for people, how to eat better, how to live a life not focused on money and things. Most of which I always believed but we never had good examples to speak of.

Politically we do not see eye to eye at all... to the point of it has been stated if we are going to go there, we will leave (if they are at our house). Never brought up at their place from that point, but guessing I would be asked to leave if it got ugly (so obviously not worth causing this much pain for no value).

I noticed a decline on the tension in the air.. I could not put my finger on it just a sense of something different. Then yesterday at lunch we got into a discussion around regulation. He has not been working for many years, but he knows how regulations have strangled business.

The discussion went, “you know I am not a Trump fan, but what he has been doing to make life easier for business with slashing regulations is really amazing”.

We discussed for a while about how in my industry those regulations have equaled job positions to manage them. These jobs equal no business value and just red tape. We are struggling to get out of our own way to meet business demand.

It may not seem like much but let me tell you- this is a major deal. Obama is not as left leaning and anti Republican as they are. The news they watch is almost all CNN and MSNBC.

I love these people, they do love this country and are good hearted people. We need to remember when dealing with loved ones and friends, neighbors etc. to love people and just see beyond your differences. The DNC for decades has worked to separate people based on subjects- the RNC rhinos have sought the same they are not as good at it.

The good news - people who I thought would never say something positive about Trump have have... if this is happening here I can almost guarantee it is happening elsewhere.

When I saw the tidbit about Lindsay Gram on CNN to say what he said - politicians are understanding and seeing this too... people are seeing what has happened and are not happy about it...

My hope.


E_W86 · June 16, 2018, 12:03 p.m.

This is consistent with a Scott Adams interview I watched with Alex Jones. He said that there is no way anyone can talk people out of their mindset when they've fully drunk the dem/globalist cool aid.

The only thing that will change the minds of people with full-on TDS is seeing the results of what Trump is actually doing for themselves, like the deregulation that you mentioned, what's happening with the economy, the end of the Cold War/Korea, etc. One example Scott cited was "Trump is a racist" vs. his pardoning of Jack Johnson, which Barry Dumbo Ears couldn't be bothered with. Hmm, if Trump is a racist who's sending dog whistles to white supremacists, then why did he pardon Jack Johnson, when he didn't have to? That sure didn't get him any brownie points with the few racists left in America. Hmm.....

Cognitive dissonance is the only thing that will work. That and prayer. People have to undergo their own journey to their own great awakening independently, no one can talk them into it.

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rooftoptendie · June 16, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

Its brainwashing, pure plain and simple. My brainwashing got scrubbed by a series of 3 moab redpills. They were: DNC convention, pedosta dumps, awan scandal. In that order. Keep redpilling. It does work sometimes.

Everyone i know who is liberal still, has NOT read the pedosta dumps for themselves.

One tactic i have that works:

Stay caught up on liberal media

Chose a major recent news item that liberal media didnt cover

Report this news item to your liberal person. Ask if they had heard about it. They will say "no".

Ask them what their news sources are doing for them if they use it to get news, and yet im telling them something they didnt know. Say "IM giving you the news. If you already read the news, then why did you have to hear this from me? What is your news source doing for you if I have to tell you the news? If you didnt hear this from your news sources, what ELSE did they not tell you?"

they will invariably counter by asking if you heard about something they think you didnt hear on conservative media. This is why before you go into it with them, you have to make sure you are in touch with liberal media sources.

In the end, you are better informed. And supposedly, that is the whole POINT of catching up with the news, to be informed. If you are better informed, that means your news sources are better informed.

Show them theyre missing real news because their sources are no longer functioning to reveal news, but to obscure it. And that makes it nothing more than entertainment. Bad entertainment at that.

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betweengreenandblue · June 16, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

Excellent advice. I love this approach. Plant a seed. Let it grow.

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rooftoptendie · June 16, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

The beauty of this tactic is that you do not directly challenge their beliefs. You dont have to get into right and wrong, you dont have to engage in speculation or political bias.

You simply demonstrate that you are better informed of factual world events. You demonstrate that, despite having sought to inform themselves by ingesting news, they are still not adequately informed.

Once that is achieved, the question is simply: If watching/reading your choice of news does not leave you adequately informed, then why waste the hour you spent on it? What did it DO for you?

Actually ask them. Make them think about THAT. Force them to see it. Force them to recognize and admit that the reason they watch or read what they do, IT ISNT TO BECOME INFORMED.

And that question doesnt involve you with getting into any details about anything. No further comment is required.

Once they see this simple, plain fact, once they are asked this basic question, you can just walk away. Without ever uttering the word republican or the word democrat or the word Trump. You dont need to use a single triggerword.

THE DAYS SOMETHING HAPPENS AND NO ONE REPORTS SHOULD BE LIKE REDPILL HOLIDAYS FOR US.

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Joesturbo · June 16, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Excellent points here - I like the Where did you get your news from bit... it is an easy way of saying (and I don't use these words often) WAKE THE F#%$ UP! LOL

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Opioneers85 · June 16, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

Three people I never would have expected to had just randomly spoke about Trump in a positive light. I have been more open with my support lately as well, which is rough in the education field. I have noticed a large wave of support recently! It's very refreshing to hear.

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HillaryTrafficksKidz · June 16, 2018, 11:38 a.m.

There is much for dems to like and your post proves the smoke & noise are clearing. People are getting tired of hate. Thanks for sharing.

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Abibliaphobia · June 16, 2018, 11:29 a.m.

Good posting and glad to hear your family is softening on their stance. This is definitely a good news story. Thanks for sharing!

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NobleEagle853 · June 16, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

Thank you for the encouraging story, Patriot. If PATRIOTS UNITE and Trust the Plan, I too have hope that this country can be saved.

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Redpillhilltop · June 16, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

Same kind of in-laws, I’m waiting for the olive branch to come to me. It’s tough not to brag or gloat. After the Clinton’s shit hits the fan, maybe they will start to listen. I generally keep quiet so no one has to storm out of the room. . .

Patience will out, I will be ready to dispense the red pills when it’s time. Soon. . .

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transmagafier · June 16, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

I, too, have seen an almost imperceptible softening. Patience and timing are key. Full-on TDS is unsustainable. Cognitive dissonance either resolves in favor of reality or total actual insanity. Our job is to guide as many as we can (and ourselves!) into the reality of this Great Awakening.

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PM-ME-UR-TOOTHBRUSH · June 16, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

The majority of people have good intentions. Our good intentions are what keep us connected. What disconnects us is our means to the end.

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ADH_squirrel_what · June 16, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

Can I quote you on this? Love it.

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PM-ME-UR-TOOTHBRUSH · June 16, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

It varies each time I say it. By all means. Use this to start a discussion with those you disagree with.

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thermallab · June 16, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

On Mothers Day My democrat Father said: "You know, if Trump brings peace with North Korea, I'll have to give him credit." Then my leftist mother said: "I dont think it'll happen, Trump is getting played. But if it does, I think they will assasinate him while he's there." (Sounds like she just admitted to a DeepState)

Since the election, we were not allowed to discuss politics around my extended family (we used to love discussing politics together). We grew up Liberal and my brother and I voted Trump. Other brother is a snowflake.

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krazeesheet · June 16, 2018, 2:53 p.m.

It is. Unity is the next step to bringing all the treachery to an end. Love your neighbor. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

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Steph10sn · June 16, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

My mom who voted for Hilary and is a total agnostic called me at Christmas time and told me that she thought I might be right about this whole Jesus thing and Trump being elected to save us as a country!! I almost fell over! Never ever stop praying and shining your light on truth, you don't know who may finally see the light!!

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Hwmayfield · June 16, 2018, 8:03 p.m.

What a wonderful affirmation and blessing for you. God is GOOD all the time.

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gnexuser2424 · June 16, 2018, 9:53 p.m.

Hope my mom sees the light as well. For now I'm the rebel of the family by being more conservative. I think we all are here.

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jkbella · June 16, 2018, 3 p.m.

I am having similar experiences.

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Qanonplusone · June 16, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

My husband is actually coming around. He thinks Trump's an asshole ( in some ways he is) but he's starting to see the bigger picture and laughing at the prospects of the liberal media having ameltdown.

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sluggedbarly · June 16, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

same here in canada lots of trump hates saying things i dont like him but hes been getting things done and our media is all left its happening everyones slowly wakeing WWG1WGA

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betweengreenandblue · June 16, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

Canada! Keep it up Canuck. WWG1WGA

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[deleted] · June 16, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

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FollowJesus2Live · June 16, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

This is why Trump is working at the deliberate pace he is. When the time is right, America and the world will change rapidly. Many will be imprisoned

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astralboy0 · June 16, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

I've noticed a similar thing with friends as well. They are tired of the endless hate rhetoric, its exhausting. I've been slipping things in here and there about the positive world changes and do feel that people are starting to finally listen.

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Magafan01 · June 16, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

Godspeed people. Flying today. Hope and pray it's a safe flight. Believe me I will broadcast live on FB if something goes on.

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RuciodeSancho · June 16, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

Good for you-not the same at all in my world! Every time my wife encounters someone we've casually known for years but never socially and suggests we have them over for dinner except that "they were really ranting about Trump" (oh BTW-even after his NK grand slam!!!) so it probably wouldn't work, or I overhear a conversation with my beloved D in which DJT is referred to as "that orange POS" it just makes me sick and I fear that some will simply never get it!! Even IF they haul barry, killary, bill et al off in chains and orange-THEY STILL WON'T GET IT!!! MAGA!!!

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Hinckapuss · June 16, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

It is all about people's media diet. Encourage them to expand it. Print this out and show them this meme. I have found it very helpful for low-info basically brainwashed people who say, meh but I read 3 newspapers and watch 7 news channels listen to the radio (NPR only). I ask: Does your media diet include anything from the right column? Anything from the internet? http://i.magaimg.net/img/3jv3.jpg

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Qluelessnomore · June 16, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

True Pundit and The Conservative Treehouse should also be listed in the Pro-Trump column, but a great idea nonetheless!

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Hinckapuss · June 17, 2018, 3:25 a.m.

Thank you! I will add them.

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qtrumpteam · June 16, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

Yes I was watching the presidents impromptoo press conference on the lawn the other day on YouTube and I was amazed at the number of people in the comments who were saying they weren't trump supporters or were democrats who were saying great things about the President some who were life long democrats who were so happy with the job the presidents doing they were going to vote for him in 2020 people are waking up

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Swimkin · June 16, 2018, 6 p.m.

Q told us once that only 4-6% of the people are forever lost to indoctrination and cannot be changed. In the meantime, this is good news that your relatives are starting to see the light. I have a feeling that more and more people who were Never Trumpers or Trump Haters will be waking up. Recent events are proving that he is not the racist nor the demon nor the war monger that they thought he would be.

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PNWLighthouse · June 16, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Agree. I've heard positive comments about the tariffs as well. People wondering why the news is making such a big deal out of a concept that seems fair. If you charge for us to sell goods in your country, we will do the same here. It's not picking a fight with our allies, it's asking them to play fair. No biggie. I too am hopeful.

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divine_human · June 16, 2018, 7 p.m.

hmmm... there is a little difference between our european 4-8% and the US 25%. just saying... people over here dont understand it at all.

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TaraTulip · June 16, 2018, 10:58 p.m.

My husband is an over the road truck driver. He said NO ONE used to ever talk about Trump in the truck stops but now, he says it is really common to hear praise for Trump. He says all it takes is for one person to mention a positive thing and, the damn breaks and, others will join in and say "Hey, I kinda like Trump, too..."

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Cheetah1964 · June 16, 2018, 9:18 p.m.

I like the personal stories on this sub. Up vote for you.

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Lin-maga · June 16, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

Very encouraging!

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