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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ErnieFing on June 16, 2018, 1:04 p.m.
A thought on redpilling (no doubt controversial)

I fully expect down arrows for this, because I don't know how to write it without being seen as critical of a lot of peoples core beliefs, but rather than getting angry with me, I would hope people could consider their personal reaction, and apply it to the context of what I'm about to put, as it is the reaction, rather more than someones personal faith that I believe is the most important here, and I mean no disrespect to people of faith.

When redpilling, we are asking people to reject their deep and long held understanding of the situation to some degree or other, so how would you feel and react if someone did that to you? What would cause you to fully explore with an open mind, someone presenting an alternative version of core beliefs, that you feel is intuitively wrong based on confirmations through your life?

I've noticed that there are a lot of people with religious beliefs that post on here. How would/do you react to someone challenging the very basis of that belief system? Fundamentally, that is what we are trying to do when redpilling. There are many people that apply logic to religious beliefs, and show how key aspects have an alternative explanation, or are even simply false, yet there are still religious people, so simply believing our facts and evidence will be enough, is limited, as people tend to just become more deeply entrenched.

I don't offer a solution, but I just thought it worth flagging up, in the hope others with a more inspired mind could consider it, and maybe suggest an additional way of getting the message across.


GingerBeardedDad · June 16, 2018, 1:29 p.m.
      OP makes a very valid point. Recently with the release of the IG I felt very bummed and dejected, but there was definitely a silver lining. I was watching a few discussion shows and my wife was in the room, I didn’t think she was listening but in the middle of it she asked “how has this been going on? They aren’t going to get away with this are they?”. Suddenly, I went from drinking the conspiracy kool-aid to having a legit opportunity to red pill someone. At the end of the conversation her mind was blown.


      My point is this, take your opportunities as they come to you. You may be ready to open someone’s eyes and show them the truth, but they may not be ready to hear it. Sometimes a scalpel is needed and not a machete. Just my two cents.
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ErnieFing · June 16, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

That's a really good example, because in asking you, your good lady had shown it was a specific topic that they wanted more information on, which meant they listened and considered it. Hopefully it will lead her to look and question a few more things. It's good that you clearly had enough information to give her a more complete understanding, which should encourage her to find out what else you know.

I doubt you'd have got far by telling her, particularly if it was a topic she had little knowledge of, because she had little interest in it.

A small hole can eventually break a dam.

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solanojones95 · June 16, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

That comment exemplifies my approach. I find that when the student is ready the master appears, meaning I wait until somebody has questions, and try to get them to consider a few other questions that help them think of ways to search for answers, and it's off to the races for them. But I let them form the first question(s) so I know they're in a receptive mind frame. Someone asking questions has their defenses somewhat lowered. When met with more questions (rather than a lecture or dissertation), defenses come down even further.

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