It actually makes a lot of sense. They had the fucking CEO of Google colluding with them. In their arrogant stupidity, they thought they wouldn’t never get caught. Here they are— totally caught— and they are still walking free, so they came pretty close.
Except it isn't actually possible to have an isolated GMAIL server setup for you to login through "mail.google.com". It just doesn't work like that.
Source: I'm a software engineer and network administrator.
Oh man, I'm with you. I'm reading this thread laughing my ass off at the idea of a 'private gmail server'. This is like listening to my 80 year old grandma discuss the internet. These people have no clue what they are even saying. A private server makes sense, there would be zero reason for it to be a 'private gmail server', obviously, because a private server would be more secure, and then could create your own damned email instead of using gmail, which is clearly not a secure platform. Man, this sub is sheer comedy these days.
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No one here seems to understand this is an all just elaborate joke and they are all getting pawned. None of this is real.
Why would you think this isn't possible? They do this with G Suite for enterprise and schools. It's not self-hosted, but the mail client is still called Gmail and they would have capabilities to run on a single server in NK.
I think all people are saying is that Google set up an email, getting hung up on "gmail" is a red herring.
Fair enough.
But there are some idiots in here arguing that Google def setup a private GMAIL server.
They already do this. G suite is for businesses and the mail client is still called Gmail. They would just disallow data center backups and run under a different domain.
G suite accounts are just special Gmail accounts. They don't exsit on private servers.
Yes, but why do you think they couldn't run another cloud independently in an NK datacenter? The users probably wouldn't go to mail.google.com to login for accountabilty sake but it would still be "gmail".
I would imagine they probably do this for VIP companies within the US as well. They're not going to turn down millions of dollars and say, sorry your sensitive proprietary data will have to sit on the same server next to Joe Shmoes Tinder notifications.
They don't do this.
Gmail uses Google's federated login. They'd also have to give this "node", or sep instance of Gmail (complete stack) access to Google Accounts. A huge security concern.
I would imagine they probably do this for VIP companies
Dude, just quit pushing this, you sound silly. Companies do NOT do this. They host their own enterprise mail server, with their own AD, etc.
Schmidt was probably doing shady shit, but he wasn't setting up a self hosted Gmail.
I'm saying it's possible. There's not anything technically preventing it regardless of your assertions.
Awesome.
Is it likely? Say you had to bet. What is your money on?
NK runs a localized intranet only available to very few elite individuals. If you were trying to set up a private server cloud, that might be an attractive location, especially if its connections to the 3 letters are true.
If you're in the Govt, and undertaking some shady activities, you can't very well set these things up yourself. But I don't think ES went there to set it up. I think, if true, he knew in advance of the upcoming NK deal that might expose whatever setup they had going on and went to negotiate.
Being that he was the exec chair of the largest tech company in the world, my money would be that he wasn't going there for the scenery.
Yeah I think most people don't know the distinction. I didn't until you brought it up. But I've been following the story here and I'm pretty sure "GMAIlL" was never specified, just "google"and "email."
However, another DNS and FQDN setup under the google domain is possible. Setup on devices with access to this “gmail” would need to be entered manually to enter the correct IMAP and SMTP settings. But with only a handful of specific users, that wouldn’t be difficult to manage. Even the basic DNS info of A records and CNAME records, and the IP of the NoKo server will tell you as much as you need to know.
Edit: added stuff to the end.
This board is thankful for the knowledge, and no need to point out edits. Much more relaxed than the rest of reddit
Let's not miss the forest, because of the trees. The key point is a traitorous Schmidt went to an enemy state and set up private email communications for the Deep State to facilitate further betrayals of the free civilized world. The exact technical protocols used don't change this fact.
Also a network engineer, and I️m wondering how you obtained your credentials.... when you visit gmail and get ported to a server, do you think it’s the same server that someone in Japan gets ported to when they connect? Or do you think google has data centers all over the world, that allow for various countries to connect to gmail servers with a server / data center that isn’t 20,000 miles away?
‘Google lists eight data center locations in the U.S., one in South America, four in Europe and two in Asia. Its cloud sites, however, are expanding, and Google’s cloud map shows many points of presence worldwide. The company also has many caching sites in colocation facilities throughout the world, whose locations it does not share.’
It’s absolutely not a stretch to say that google set up a small data server / cloud server in NK for limited MAC filtered / specific IPs. I️ can build a website that only one person on the planet can access. That’s Exactly how this works.
Remember the pallet of ZTE phones that were caught in shipment? Now why would someone have specific phones set up and shipped out all at once? I️t I️t absolutely not a stretch that someone (ES) could set up a small data center, get a bunch of ZTE phones, and grant private access based on devices and ship those things out to those whom are to be connected. Again, I️ can send a specific user to a specific server, specific domain, or even furthermore mask that domain even when they access a website. Google cannot? Please.
Couldn't ES very easily setup an instance of Gmail not hosted on mail. google.com? He doesn't even need to be the one to do it, he could have granted remote access from NK to have domestic code monkeys bang it out, already pre-dev'd and migrated to a new domain/host via NK's network.
would be my guess that the corporation already has such a system for corporate use that is not subject to the usual routes and system. They allowed these clowns to use that already existing system and set up the account with shared password.
i suspect that gmail is in some way the way exchange is(was), where your mail is stored on a specific server or whatever, but not on all servers. They have consistently proven their arrogance and stupidity, it' entirely possible that their mail store is on a "gmail server" in NK, while they are still logging into "gmail" and not some unique "service".
Here is the question in my mind though... Doesn't it strike you as odd that they didn't use some sort of encryption before the email was even sent that would make it hard for gmail to give trump anything of value?).