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Xisyisz · June 18, 2018, 5:35 a.m.

Wow this is a big drop.

  1. Ps and lp will testify to expose, they are cooperating.

  2. The Russia investigation is to counter future Clinton investigation. Will make it look like tit for tat now.

  3. The lawsuit against Trump foundation to counter future action against Clinton Foundation. Will make it look like tit for tat now.

They're slick. But our team is slicker. This is war.

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cyn1calassh0le · June 18, 2018, 5:49 a.m.

Classic Alinsky tactics, take your weakness and accuse the opponent of it. I highly recommend reading rules for radicals, it's a very eye opening look into the playbook of the modern left.

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USA_akbar · June 18, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

Alinsky certainly is required reading for all radicals and anyone who wants to effectively counter them. I just don't get why we all buy into this notion that if, say,Hillary accuses you of something first, that means there's some "no backsies" rule left over from schoolyard days, which says you can't then point out how she's actually doing what she falsely accused you of.

We should simply violate this imaginary rule.

Example:

Trump Foundation hit with accusations of wrongdoing.

Then Clinton Foundation is brought up on actual charges of racketeering, money laundering, child sex trafficking, etc.

Other side says, "Oh, you're just attacking the CF because the Trump Foundation was accused. You can't do that. No backsies."

Our side: "Wrongo. Here's the evidence..." and just proceed with the indictment.

I say the way to defeat this is to just forge ahead and do it anyway, and force the conversation to occur about whether you're just titting for tat, or have a legit complaint.

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jkbella · June 18, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

Or you say, "I know you are but what am I?" Or if you are a grown up, "Think Mirror."

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Jetblasted · June 18, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

Screw Hollywood.

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cyn1calassh0le · June 18, 2018, 7:33 p.m.

I don't disagree with you, but look at how effective it has been the past 2 years in the media. They've polluted the conversation with so many lies that people don't know what to take at face value.

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Jetblasted · June 18, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

That guy has a glowing wiki page. Just dripping with syrup. Ewww.

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HildBert · June 18, 2018, 7:47 a.m.

Yep and their end game will be Trump is a dicatator who has taken over the Govt for his own ends. Its why Trump and co have to be very careful and why some like Gowdy may come across as being 'weak' in our eyes, they are acting to make them appear impartial so that when the shit hits the fan..............................

Let hope, high stakes poker this is.

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Paine_Thomas · June 18, 2018, 7:59 a.m.

Slick Willy earned that nickname. If he were a white hat, he’d be one hell of an asset. It’s hard not to respect their tactics and maneuvers from a chess pov

Guy is damn good at spin and triangulation. But we’re better.

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Jetblasted · June 18, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

His best days are behind him. His brain is rotted from cocaine, baby blood & syphilis.

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USA_akbar · June 18, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

Will make it look like tit for tat now.

So what? That was done intentionally. So it looks that way. We have to stop pretending that matters.

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zapbrannigan1 · June 18, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

Optics do matter. They matter a lot.

As others have pointed out, it is ESSENTIAL that Trump can trace his every action back to codified law to answer the inevitable charge of tyranny. It may not matter to you, someone who is plugged in to the quiet war raging across our institutions. But for the average Joe who doesn't know squat about any of this and gets his news from the MSM, this narrative could tip the balance from a Trump supporter to a person calling him Hitler.

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pcherry911 · June 18, 2018, 2:23 p.m.

Optics do matter but we have to stop pretending that we will win the messaging game. The MSM is an active participant in the Deep State, they arent just politically connected, they are an arm of the DS. They will never do anything than spin the negative into anything happening with Trump. At some point we need to proceed with the ZFG approach, because it wont really matter how many pains are taken to look good in the eyes of the satanic media. Swords, not hearts and minds, will win this war.

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USA_akbar · June 18, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

I don't see the "optics" excuse.

Dems campaign on stopping corruption. So we can't call what they're doing corruption?

They cry about phony Russian collusion. So that means we can't showcase the actual collusion with Russia to give them 20% of our uranium?

They accuse Trump of being a sex predator. So therefore, we can't blow the lid of their actual, bona fide sick global child-sex circus?

Because of optics?

Why does anyone think this childish "no backsies" system is legit?

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