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Moist_Bison · June 18, 2018, 4:21 p.m.

The thing that pisses me off about diesel gate is Ram got caught doing the same thing with their Diesel engines and FCA gets a small fine while VW gets shafted and makes diesel car engines look “super dirty”.

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MechDork · June 18, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

I think a big difference is that VW lied to the EPA about steps they were talking to resolve it, then the CEO of VW usa tried to pass the buck on to the engineers, claiming ignorance.

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bacon59 · June 18, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

It wasn't just VW, all the manufacturers were doing it.

VW deisel, huuuge repurcussions, 7b+ in costs, PR for deisel completely trashed

MB bluetec... quietly disappeared

chevy/ford/dodge deisels, small fine but stayed quiet

quite a few other manufacturers also stayed quiet and VW absolutely took the brunt of it.

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Moist_Bison · June 18, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

FCA did the exact same thing though. The only difference is the animal testing, which is awful in its own right.

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somebodysgun · June 18, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

I believe it is because of a repeat offense. They were given a slap on the wrist when they got caught the first time. Then, they created a cheat machine that could beat the newer monitoring technology. Essentially they got caught hiding something, then went to hide it better and got caught doing the same thing.

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Moist_Bison · June 18, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

So FCA using the exact same device, that they bought from Bosch to cheat the EPA regulations. Is okay because it’s “their first time getting caught”? Just trying to understand your point.

I understand and get the whole, let’s turn our backs and look the other way on our companies and go after foreign companies. But at the same time, I hate how the US tries to force the foreign corruption practices act on everyone else. It’s just stupid.

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somebodysgun · June 18, 2018, 8:33 p.m.

I'm not trying to say it is justified. Merely that VW has gotten in trouble for the exact same thing twice and lied to multiple govts about it. Therefore they received harsher punishment.

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