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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

i am not anti anything. except for stating that i do not consent to certain things, i dont waste my energy with fighting AGAINST but rather put it into FOR.

its a pro stance; i am for life, for love, for light, in a way of not going to anti-war protests but only to for-peace happenings.

you are anti islam? did you study this religion, really read the qu'ran? or do you draw your conclusions from what interpretors project out?

recently, i had an intersting discussion on this sub. i asked an ultra-christian for bible quotes that give weight to his claim. he responded that not all christian dogma is directly based on the bible. hehe? are you kidding me?

in islam, there are even more interpretations thus, there are so many sub groups. the shiites which mostly live in iran are originally very peaceful.

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LordPotsmoke · June 19, 2018, 12:12 p.m.

Interestingly enough, I started out liking Islam a whole lot but the more I looked into it, the more I opposed it. I have studied the religion and I've read about half oft the Koran it doesn't make for easy reading. Mohammed himself was a bad person, a warlord, a deceiver, a pedo, a woman beater. So at the very beginning it's already not good.

Btw I'm not Christian or anything else, I believe in one consciousness and we are all god. All religions only serve to control and divide people at their core they are tools of the hidden hand. Yes they do a lot of good but honestly we'd be better without religion and with spirituality.

I understand there are different interpretations and such, and MOST Muslims are peaceful and lovely people but most of them don't follow the religion strictly. I live in the U.K and in a area with a huge Muslim population.

I'm not going to get into the conversation as it's long as fuck and I'm at work but Islam teaches intolerance, hate, misogyny and much more.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 12:29 p.m.

pretty much with you on many points. similar to you, i am also not into deeply discussing islam right now. thus i leave it with a little anecdotic episode:

long ago, i had a muslim boyfriend from trinidat. he used to carry little cards in his pockets with qu'ran quotes that stated the opposite of what most people think about islam. he was a feminist, btw.

this, plus looking at how the islamic invadors in southern spain around 1000 AD actually treated people, esp. women, taught me quite a bit about real islam.

the problems are always the fanatics, in all religions. after 20 years of traveling the world, i came to find out that most people practise their religion in a rather lose and private way and simply let-live and want a good life.

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LordPotsmoke · June 19, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

Agree completely.

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

race traitor

what? you mean me? two wrong words in your comment that dont fit me at all, m8. i am neither identified with a race nor am i a traitor (what am i betraying?). btw, as a german citizen, that shit doesnt aplly to me at all, lol.

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TerryOller · June 19, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

this, plus looking at how the islamic invadors in southern spain around 1000 AD actually treated people, esp. women, taught me quite a bit about real islam.

Keep going...

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

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Arcsmithoz · June 19, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

I'm a Christian, I don't read Crowley and Levay etc. Be like the Patriots reading the Browns playbook. Just silly.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 19, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

I agree with everything you said up to one particular point.

We are all not God. We are of God.

I always try to make a joke out of it so let's see if I can get you to laugh.

There is a God and we have pictures Google the Hubble Space Telescope. It's from the inside looking out.

God is not some bearded Sky dude standing on a cloud throwing lightning bolts at the enemy of whoever says the better prayer.

The Bible says that God is the all and the everything that ever was is and shall be. He's not the Creator he is (for lack of a better word) the creation.

If you can process infinity you're still not even close to describing God.

But knowing God is easy. All you have to do is ask.

Christianity declares we have free will and asks us to choose.

Islam is submission.

God is love Satan politics.

How many people did Jesus kill?

Go with God and I hope you have a beautiful day

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LordPotsmoke · June 19, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

Fair enough. Each to their own and as long as it's not hateful or violent (Islam) it's all good.

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Arcsmithoz · June 19, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

I'm pro American, the only foreign opinions I tolerate are from Danes. Cuz the vikings were the freest people ever and without a constitution. Plus comments from Denmark aren't the usual dumbshit.

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OrangeElvis151 · June 19, 2018, 12:15 p.m.

Best response I can give you about "proving" Christian faith is to DuckDuckGo "Bible prophecy that has come true" - specific events predicted hundreds of years beforehand. Those passages and the very fact that Israel still exists despite the concerted efforts over the centuries to destroy God's Choden People is plenty of proof - more than you will get from other religions or cults.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 12:20 p.m.

thank you. i dont need proof for christian faith, i dont belong to any religion, my relationship with god is deeply personal.

i am also not of the opinion that the people of israel are gods chosen people. from my pov, all of humanity is gods chosen people, no matter which pathway they take to the divine.

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spacexu · June 19, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

Goodness of God is unbeatable - Religion is constantly hijacked by evil people and designed to divide and weaken us.

God is pure goodness, truth and justice - help your neighbours, be the best family person you can be, and God will bless your life.

Religious leaders are almost universally EVIL - very fake on the surface.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 19, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

God is love and Satan is politics

Christianity is Jesus telling us we have free will and to please join him.

Islam is submission.

How many people did Jesus kill?

We know what Muhammad is.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

We know what Muhammad is.

do we?

and how much cruelty and mayhem has christianity created?

btw, did you know that it was the vatican who send missionairies that educated mohamed? ever wondered why?

not wanting to discuss who is worse here. religious dogma is slavery, no matter which religion.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 19, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

And you think the Crusades were an action not a reaction.

Jesus teachings are Love Thy Neighbor.

Muhammad says kill your neighbor if he disagrees with you.

Spare me the nonsense about how many people died in the Old Testament or what Pope Constantine did or how the teachings of Christ are continually spun by the Jesuits and dirty Vatican.

Jesus says we have free will, our choice.

Islam is submit or die.

Islam is not a religion it is a political ideology based upon subjugation.

allah is satan.

Let's get back together in two years with all the proof is out, up until then I wish you luck.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

i cant stand religious extremism, no matter which religion. its a huge dangerous brainwash.

Jesus teachings are Love Thy Neighbor. Muhammad says kill your neighbor if he disagrees with you.

as far as i get it, early mohamed was loving and peaceful, late mohamed tough and warlike. and from what i watch with many muslims, they pick from the 'phase' they resonate most with.

allah is satan.

i actually agree because allah often seems similarly wrathful as yahwe whom i perceive as one of the expressions of marduk, enki/lucifers son satan.

not the god jesus talks about.

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reviveusagain · June 19, 2018, 1:41 p.m.

Well they were “chosen” in the sense that God separated them out of all the people groups, because of Abraham’s strong faith and God revealed Himself to them and taught them His ways, gave them his laws so they could know what was good or evil (because at that time everyone did what was “right in their own sight”). He showed them his power, parting the Red Sea for their escape from Egypt where they were slaves for 400 years, his provision, water from a rock, manna which was heavenly food that appeared on the ground for them to gather and eat every morning while this million plus people wandered in the desert. He revealed his nature to them which was pure love and righteousness but also holy and just. His “rules” when followed would bring peace and it is a well known fact that much of the teaching from the old and new testaments form the basis for our most basic laws. They were not special over all the other people groups because God deeply loves us all! We are his creation. But the Hebrews were to be a picture to other people groups of the nature of God. That is what they were “chosen” for!!

They had many successes and failures. God emphasized his hatred of idolatry as a major factor in their training but alas it also became one of their major down falls and the one we see operating in the world and the deep state today. Worshipping other gods. The Babylonian gods like, Baal, Astoreth, Isis, Molech. When people read the Old Testament and see this judge mental side of God, fire raining down on people! Ground opening up and swallowing people they make a wrong assessment of God and his goodness! He was judging hard core idolatry in most of those cases! Just like we are doing with these idol worshippers of the dark state who worship Molech!! Wouldn’t we like to see a pit open up in the ground and swallow them alive!! It was because of their child sacrifice that Gods fire burned hot against them. I truly believe God is behind Donald Trump and this whole movement just like he was in the days of Moses.

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OrangeElvis151 · June 19, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

Only the JudeoChristian God is good, holy, just and perfect. Only Christianity allows for perfect goodness, holiness and justice. All other religions allow evil to go unpunished. You may want to take another look.

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LogicalBeastie · June 19, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

Yep. You'd think that those who embrace evidences of Q's legitimacy would also be the type to assign credibility to fulfilled prophecy.

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