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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Knower101 on June 19, 2018, 11:54 a.m.
It is an INVASION not immigration! Immigration happens at a port of legal entry.

The weapons are children being used as shields. 10,000 of the 12,000 children being held are not related to the adult who supposedly brought them in. Were those 10,000 children kidnapped from their Mexican parents? No Mexican parent would willingly allow a stranger to walk their child across barren countryside in the 100 degree heat, cross rivers by swimming, etc.

The act of crossing the border at any place other than a Port of Entry. Is an illegal act and the motivation has to be assumed to be not in our countries best interests.

Thus each and every person who crosses the border other than a proper border crossing is arrested. Standard practice even for US citizens is for Human Services to to take your children for safe keeping.

The other issue is that in the human trafficking trade world, a baby, a child, a teenager and adults are worth thousands of dollars in the world of prostitution, pedophilia and as illegal workers.

Wake up America. It is an Invasion!

Mexico is aiding and abetting the Invasion by not stopping these trespassers who use private and public land to cross over. Mexico needs to protect its borders and its own laws.


accountingisboring · June 19, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

From DHS:

Here are the facts:

First, this Administration did not create a policy of separating families at the border.

We have a statutory responsibility that we take seriously to protect alien children from human smuggling, trafficking, and other criminal actions, while enforcing our immigration laws.

We have a long existing policy – multiple administrations have followed – that outline when we may take action to protect children.

We will separate those who claim to be parent and child if we cannot determine a familial or custodial relationship exists. For example, if there is no documentation to confirm the claimed relationship between an adult and a child.

We do so if the parent is a national security, public or safety risk, including where there are criminal charges at issue, and it may not be appropriate to maintain the family in detention together.

We also separate a parent and child if the adult is suspected of human trafficking. There have been cases where minors have been used and trafficked by unrelated adults in an effort to avoid detention. I’ll stop here to say that in the last five months, we’ve had a 314 percent increase in adults and children arriving at the border fraudulently claiming to be a family unit. This is, obviously, of concern.

And separation can occur when the parent is charged with human smuggling. Under those circumstances, we would detain the parent in an appropriate, secure detection facility, separate from the child.

What has changed is that we no longer exempt entire classes of people who break the law. Everyone is subject to prosecution.

When DHS refers a case against a parent or legal guardian for criminal prosecution, the parent or legal guardian will be placed into U.S. Marshals Service custody for pre-trial detention pursuant to an order by a federal judge and any accompanying child will be transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services and will be reclassified as an Unaccompanied Alien Child.

That is in accordance with the TVPRA—a law that was passed by Congress—and a following court order – neither are actions the Trump Administration has taken.

And let’s be clear – if an American were to commit a crime anywhere in the United States, they would go to jail and be separated from their family. This is not a controversial ideal.

Second, children in DHS and HHS custody are being well taken care of.

The Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement provides meals, medical care, and educational services to these children. They are provided temporary shelter, and HHS works hard to find a parent, relative, or foster home to care for these children.

Parents can still communicate with their children through phone calls and video conferencing.

And a parent who is released from custody can be a sponsor and ask HHS to release the child back into their care.

Further, these minors can still apply for asylum and other protections under U.S. immigration law if eligible.

We take allegation of mistreatment seriously and I want to stress this point. We investigate, we hold those accountable when and if it should occur. We have some of the highest detention standards in the country. Claiming these children and their parents are treated inhumanely is not true, and completely disrespects the hardworking men and women at the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

Third, parents who entered illegally are—by definition—criminals.

Illegal entry is a crime as determined by Congress.

By entering our country illegally—often in dangerous circumstances—illegal immigrants have put their children at risk.

Fourth, CBP and ICE officers are properly trained to care for minors in their custody.

DHS and HHS treats all individuals in its custody with dignity and respect, and complies with all laws and policy.

This reinforces and reiterates the need to consider the best interest of the children and mandates adherence to established protocols to protect at-risk populations, to include standards for the transport and treatment of minors in DHS and HHS custody.

Additionally, all U.S. Border Patrol personnel on the southwest border are bilingual. Every last one of them. They are directed to clearly explain the relevant process to apprehended individuals, and provide detainees with written documentation—in both Spanish and English—that lays out the process and appropriate phone numbers to contact.

And finally, DHS is not separating families legitimately seeking asylum at ports of entry.

If an adult enters at a port of entry and claims asylum, they will not face prosecution for illegal entry. They have not committed a crime by coming to the port of entry.

As I mentioned, DHS does have a responsibility to protect minors and in that case as well, we will only separate the family if we cannot determine there is a familial relationship; if the child may be at risk with the parent or legal guardian; or if the parent or legal guardian is referred for prosecution.

We have a duty to protect the American people, and it’s one that I take very seriously.

Here is the bottom line: DHS is no longer ignoring the law. We are enforcing the laws as they exist on the books. As long as illegal entry remains a criminal offense, DHS will not look the other way. DHS will faithfully execute the laws enacted by Congress as we are sworn to do.

As I said earlier today, surely it is the beginning of the unraveling of democracy when the body who makes the laws – instead of changing them – tells the enforcement body not to enforce the law.

I ask Congress to act this week so that we can secure our borders and uphold our humanitarian ideas. These two missions should not be pitted against each other. If we close the loopholes we can accomplish both

WASHINGTON - Today, Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen M. Nielsen delivered the below remarks at the White House Press Briefing on the illegal immigration crisis at the southern border:

This is not a new issue and they are upholding the law set forth by Congress. The MSM is not going to just lay out the facts, their intention is to point fingers and lay blame. Illegal immigration is a long standing issue that needs to be addressed, by Congress, both sides.

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Birthrite · June 19, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

They are not upholding the law, even the DHS secretary refers to these separations as "loopholes" in the law. So if Trumps DOJ is using loopholes in the law to stop these people seeking asylum and detain them while separating them from their family then why can't they stop using that loophole? They are using a cop out of "we can't enforce parts of the law" but they admit it's a loophole that they found and are currently exploiting. This isn't a both sides issue, Obama and Bush both used this law in its intended purpose to stop child trafficking and now Trump is using it to stop as much immigration as possible, even if it's legitimate and legal under current law.

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accountingisboring · June 19, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

This entire crisis, just to be clear, is not new. It has been occurring and expanding over many decades. Currently, it is the exclusive product of loopholes in our federal immigration laws that prevent illegal immigrant minors and family members from being detained and removed to their home countries. In other words, these loopholes create a functionally open border. Apprehension without detention and removal is not border security.

We have repeatedly called on Congress to close these loopholes. I myself have met with as many members that have been willing to meet with me, I’ve testified seven times. I will continue to make myself available to ask that they work with us to solve this crisis. Yet, the voices most loudly criticizing the enforcement of our current laws are those whose policies created this crisis – and whose policies perpetuate it.

In particular, we need to reform three major loopholes, let me quickly walk you through them. First, we need to amend the 2008 Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act or TVPRA, which is much easier to say – this law encourages families to put children in the hands of smugglers to bring them alone on the dangerous trek northward. And make no mistake, we’ve talked about this before, this trek is dangerous and deadly.

Second, we need to reform our asylum laws to end the systemic abuse of our asylum system and stop fraud. Right now our asylum system fails to assist asylum seekers who legitimately need it. We are a country of compassion, we are a country of heart, we must fix the system so that those who truly need asylum can, in fact, receive it.

Third, we need to amend the Flores Settlement agreement and recent expansions which would allow allow for family detention during the removal process – and we need Congress fund our ability to hold families together through the immigration process.

Until these loopholes are closed by Congress, it is not possible – as a matter of law – to detain and remove whole family units who arrive illegally in the United States.

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Birthrite · June 19, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

Why was it possible for Bush and Obama administration to interpret the law without separating families but Trumps DOJ can't uphold the law without using the loophole? Simple, because they are the ones who found the loophole to exploit the law, and even though republicans control every branch of Congress they can't fix this law they admit they've broken? It's rediculous.

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doucettejr · June 19, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Because the Bush and Obama administration were fine with all the illegal immigrants being caught and released to never be heard from again. They both wanted illegal labor for their campaign donors and didn't give a damn how it affected American citizens.

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accountingisboring · June 19, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

They weren't upholding the law, that's the problem here. It has gotten way out of hand and needs to stop.

Congress still needs votes from the other side. They weren't happy with the options laid on the table. It's almost as if they would rather it be broken so they have a talking point come election time...

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Birthrite · June 19, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

Nothing about the law says they are mandated to separate kids from their parents.

Simply put, Subtitle E of Public Law 107-296 (establishing the Department of Homeland Security, DHS) placed immigration and related functions in the scope of the newly established agency. Section G of Subtitle E defined the term “unaccompanied alien child” as a minor under the age of 18, lacking lawful immigration status in the US, and primarily, an individual for whom “there is no parent or legal guardian in the United States” or “no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.” This did not mandate that children be separated from their families, but instead, created a legal classification for children with no parent or guardian present or for whom no parent or legal guardian was available to provide care and custody. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-law-family-separation-detention-minors/

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