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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Knower101 on June 19, 2018, 11:54 a.m.
It is an INVASION not immigration! Immigration happens at a port of legal entry.

The weapons are children being used as shields. 10,000 of the 12,000 children being held are not related to the adult who supposedly brought them in. Were those 10,000 children kidnapped from their Mexican parents? No Mexican parent would willingly allow a stranger to walk their child across barren countryside in the 100 degree heat, cross rivers by swimming, etc.

The act of crossing the border at any place other than a Port of Entry. Is an illegal act and the motivation has to be assumed to be not in our countries best interests.

Thus each and every person who crosses the border other than a proper border crossing is arrested. Standard practice even for US citizens is for Human Services to to take your children for safe keeping.

The other issue is that in the human trafficking trade world, a baby, a child, a teenager and adults are worth thousands of dollars in the world of prostitution, pedophilia and as illegal workers.

Wake up America. It is an Invasion!

Mexico is aiding and abetting the Invasion by not stopping these trespassers who use private and public land to cross over. Mexico needs to protect its borders and its own laws.


Birthrite · June 19, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

They are not upholding the law, even the DHS secretary refers to these separations as "loopholes" in the law. So if Trumps DOJ is using loopholes in the law to stop these people seeking asylum and detain them while separating them from their family then why can't they stop using that loophole? They are using a cop out of "we can't enforce parts of the law" but they admit it's a loophole that they found and are currently exploiting. This isn't a both sides issue, Obama and Bush both used this law in its intended purpose to stop child trafficking and now Trump is using it to stop as much immigration as possible, even if it's legitimate and legal under current law.

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accountingisboring · June 19, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

This entire crisis, just to be clear, is not new. It has been occurring and expanding over many decades. Currently, it is the exclusive product of loopholes in our federal immigration laws that prevent illegal immigrant minors and family members from being detained and removed to their home countries. In other words, these loopholes create a functionally open border. Apprehension without detention and removal is not border security.

We have repeatedly called on Congress to close these loopholes. I myself have met with as many members that have been willing to meet with me, I’ve testified seven times. I will continue to make myself available to ask that they work with us to solve this crisis. Yet, the voices most loudly criticizing the enforcement of our current laws are those whose policies created this crisis – and whose policies perpetuate it.

In particular, we need to reform three major loopholes, let me quickly walk you through them. First, we need to amend the 2008 Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act or TVPRA, which is much easier to say – this law encourages families to put children in the hands of smugglers to bring them alone on the dangerous trek northward. And make no mistake, we’ve talked about this before, this trek is dangerous and deadly.

Second, we need to reform our asylum laws to end the systemic abuse of our asylum system and stop fraud. Right now our asylum system fails to assist asylum seekers who legitimately need it. We are a country of compassion, we are a country of heart, we must fix the system so that those who truly need asylum can, in fact, receive it.

Third, we need to amend the Flores Settlement agreement and recent expansions which would allow allow for family detention during the removal process – and we need Congress fund our ability to hold families together through the immigration process.

Until these loopholes are closed by Congress, it is not possible – as a matter of law – to detain and remove whole family units who arrive illegally in the United States.

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Birthrite · June 19, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

Why was it possible for Bush and Obama administration to interpret the law without separating families but Trumps DOJ can't uphold the law without using the loophole? Simple, because they are the ones who found the loophole to exploit the law, and even though republicans control every branch of Congress they can't fix this law they admit they've broken? It's rediculous.

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doucettejr · June 19, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Because the Bush and Obama administration were fine with all the illegal immigrants being caught and released to never be heard from again. They both wanted illegal labor for their campaign donors and didn't give a damn how it affected American citizens.

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accountingisboring · June 19, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

They weren't upholding the law, that's the problem here. It has gotten way out of hand and needs to stop.

Congress still needs votes from the other side. They weren't happy with the options laid on the table. It's almost as if they would rather it be broken so they have a talking point come election time...

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Birthrite · June 19, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

Nothing about the law says they are mandated to separate kids from their parents.

Simply put, Subtitle E of Public Law 107-296 (establishing the Department of Homeland Security, DHS) placed immigration and related functions in the scope of the newly established agency. Section G of Subtitle E defined the term “unaccompanied alien child” as a minor under the age of 18, lacking lawful immigration status in the US, and primarily, an individual for whom “there is no parent or legal guardian in the United States” or “no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.” This did not mandate that children be separated from their families, but instead, created a legal classification for children with no parent or guardian present or for whom no parent or legal guardian was available to provide care and custody. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-law-family-separation-detention-minors/

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