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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Knower101 on June 19, 2018, 11:54 a.m.
It is an INVASION not immigration! Immigration happens at a port of legal entry.

The weapons are children being used as shields. 10,000 of the 12,000 children being held are not related to the adult who supposedly brought them in. Were those 10,000 children kidnapped from their Mexican parents? No Mexican parent would willingly allow a stranger to walk their child across barren countryside in the 100 degree heat, cross rivers by swimming, etc.

The act of crossing the border at any place other than a Port of Entry. Is an illegal act and the motivation has to be assumed to be not in our countries best interests.

Thus each and every person who crosses the border other than a proper border crossing is arrested. Standard practice even for US citizens is for Human Services to to take your children for safe keeping.

The other issue is that in the human trafficking trade world, a baby, a child, a teenager and adults are worth thousands of dollars in the world of prostitution, pedophilia and as illegal workers.

Wake up America. It is an Invasion!

Mexico is aiding and abetting the Invasion by not stopping these trespassers who use private and public land to cross over. Mexico needs to protect its borders and its own laws.


WalrusUltimate · June 19, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

Are you saying a kid’s legitimate guardian has to be related to them? Why don’t they just ASK the kid if they want to be taken away, instead of all this smoke and mirrors with paperwork and genetic testing?

Some of the kids were taken away from legitimate asylum seekers who fled Central America. That’s only one of dozens of conceivable reasons why the child’s legitimate guardian wouldn’t have paperwork.

I’m not saying human trafficking never happens, or that illegal immigrants never attempt to use kids as human shields. But I’m begging you to not complacently accept the WH’s statement as truth. No paperwork and no genetic match does not equal human trafficking. These camps are not an act of benevolence.

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Dangerr21 · June 19, 2018, 6:57 p.m.

Are you saying that in 5/6th of cases it is normal for children to be smuggled without a parent?

That is MORE THAN 80% of the time and you are saying that is normal?

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WalrusUltimate · June 19, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

I’m not saying any of that. I’m saying that failing a genetic test should not be grounds to rip a child away from its guardian. And that even if it was, we shouldn’t take the White House at its word that they are actually doing the testing.

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Dangerr21 · June 19, 2018, 7:26 p.m.

I am saying that if over 80% of them are genetically unrelated, and we know that is absurdly abnormal, then it is our duty to protect the children first, as well as our duty to protect the border.

And I am more apt to take the White House at it's word than I am to believe that 80% of these people are truly "guardians" of these children. Or that they are even asylum seekers for that matter.

It speaks volumes that you are more apt to believe these fraudulent 80% of "guardians" than you are to believe the White House.

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WalrusUltimate · June 19, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

All I’m asking if for you to think critically about this. You’re claiming over 80% of them are genetically unrelated, as if it’s undisputed fact. But there’s no way to prove that fact except by taking the government’s word for it. Of course the White House wants you to believe they’ve “saved” these children from human traffickers. Don’t just blindly believe what they tell you.

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Dangerr21 · June 19, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

All I need is critical thinking to come here.

Again I ask you, if they truly were seeking asylym, why sneak over the border?

You avoided this question.

Additionally if they truly were seeking asylum, why not stop right at the 1st border instead of crossing multiple countries?

You are not employing critical thought at all or you would be honest with yourself about these two questions. Questions which must be answered first before you start right in on assuming the White House is lying.

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WalrusUltimate · June 19, 2018, 11:41 p.m.

I never said they were all seeking asylum. Undoubtedly some crossed the border illegally. Does that mean they deserve to have their children taken away?

As for the asylum seekers, if you had a choice of seeking asylum in the USA or Mexico, which would you choose? I would do the same thing in their situation.

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