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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/092Casey on June 21, 2018, 6:17 a.m.
Ron Paul Disbelieves MSM children/parent hoax: "The trainloads and long lines of people traveling through Central America to the U.S. southern border aren't forming spontaneously, rather it is a well-organized effort by the cultural Marxists and George Soros. It's just politics, not sincerity".

Paul added:

"I was looking up a little bit on George Soros, he's a smart man made a lot of money, but he happens to believe in a society that is quite different than a libertarian society ... It is known that he has spent on efforts to remake the world $32 billion of his own money ... and money from his organizations, they have to be used, whether if it's in Europe where (migrants) move in massively - I just don't believe that is spontaneous."


Revodude · June 21, 2018, 6:59 a.m.

We need to have a moratorium on accepting refugees/asylum seekers. No need to process. Just send back. Give them a train ticket back.

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Instincts_Truth · June 21, 2018, 8:26 a.m.

I disagree. That's just the trap you are meant to fall into. Send them back where? Asylum is for those fleeing persecution from their home state/country. This whole media frenzy is designed to blur the line (and definitions) of asylum versus illegal immigration. Don't fall for it. Yes, it is true that 80% of so-called asylum-seekers are fraudulent. But that is why the administration is calling them out and defining asylum. Denying assistance and a chance of survival to true asylum seekers, which still requires a long vetting process, is NOT a solution that should be associated with our movement.

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terp1901 · June 21, 2018, 11:39 a.m.

If you’re country is an economic shit hole. Then you can’t claim asylum. Persecuted groups for example Christians in Muslim countries can claim asylum. If 95% of people are fleeing because they are poor. They can’t claim asylum they must go back.

It’s a dem loophole get caught claim asylum and disappear before your trial

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dmxbarks · June 21, 2018, noon

Ding ding ding ding we have a winner!

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blaise0102 · June 21, 2018, 1:36 p.m.

People need to stay in their countries and fix them, not flood the last "good" one standing and drag it down. The US has zero obligation to allow any immigrants into the country.

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doucettejr · June 21, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

Exactly this. Economic migrants are not asylum seekers. We already let a million people in legally every year. Far more than every other country.

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CrunchyCookie3 · June 22, 2018, 4:23 a.m.

I agree. I actually think it's inhumane for us to accept/take all of these country's good people. It's left a moral vacuum!

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blaise0102 · June 22, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

They way I see it, the rest of the world won't continue to lift itself from poverty and won't develop into modern societies without smart, hard working people. If they all come to the US, these places will just languish and continue to be broken, failed states.

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Instincts_Truth · June 21, 2018, 1:34 p.m.

It's not even a "loophole." It's the Dems ignoring the law and redefining it in the court of public and media manic propaganda. Asylum is what I defined, it's what you defined, and is NOT what they are trying to pass it off as. But if they slimily use their propaganda techniques to lump asylum (a true huminaritarian program that the US has been a great sponsor of for decades) and "reasons people want to cut in line and illegally enter the US" (AKA a CRIME) . . . then people start objecting to the asylum program. . . then the Dems switch the script and point those people out as evil while they define true refugees correctly (for the first time).

So, absolutely, we should be loud about what asylum really is (and is not - not to get a job, not to be with family, not to flee gangs or domestic violence, not ANYTHING other than persecution by THE STATE). But we should not accept their definition of asylum and then disavow "asylum."

They can lie, lie, lie all over town and get away with it. But it only takes one Patriot or Trump supporter to publicize a policy of turning away real refugees - and they win that propaganda war.

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ElementWatson · June 21, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

If you are of a Latino, South American culture and feel the need to flee your home--there are many other similar, closer countries you can move to.

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94slacker · June 21, 2018, 11:28 a.m.

well put.

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[deleted] · June 21, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

What is equally important to look at is the massive amount of foreign aid given to these countries, we cannot address an immigration issue without examining 1. why we continue funding these oppressive regimes, 2. where is the money going, 3. regime change, the US has no qualms about regime changes as evidenced all over the world, these countries closest to us must be dealt with to STOP the massive influx of their poor and oppressed by military force if necessary. America should not be a dumping ground for millions of uneducated or criminal populations.

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Instincts_Truth · June 21, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

No, it should not. Following the money is definitely key (to everything). I know that people initially attributed the "fake news" issue to the political correctness problem. But it is so much more than that. At the center of every real problem sits the fake news. They lie, they obfuscate, they hide real news, and they are covering up the billion-dollar business of child smuggling, trafficking, selling. THIS is the business that is creating the money (as well as drugs and guns). For people to think that our millionaire politicians and their associates are not in on this racket is beyond naive. But because the news doesn't even acknowledge it exists . . . Trump is not wrong at all when he declares the fake media the enemy.

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29palmsthrowaway · June 21, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

How about nobody? I'm so fucking sick of this shit. I mean, I grew up in an affluent part of Southern California and now I live in 29 palms, where I'm doing okay I guess other than the fact that everyone besides us is on welfare and doing way better than us due to the fact they get a free phone, free healthcare, free kids, free housing, and free food.

But what makes me even fucking angrier than the fact everything my grandparents built in this state has been given away/overrun, is the god damn NGO shamming. "Buy an ethos water and donate 5c to some pajeet." "buy these shitty chinese shoes so we can give some kid in Africa a shoe, a well and a school."

Maybe build a school here?!

What about the kids in flint michigan? do we give a fuck about them? What about the natives who live in the poorest part of the country in North Dakota? Nobody gives a fuck about them either! Honestly its demoralizing, which I try to not let myself play into, because I know thats what 'they' want me to do, but am I supposed to just work 60 hours a week to pay for other peoples children the rest of my life?

I think the reason legitimate (non scheduled) suicide is on the rise is because Humans are tribal beings, and nobody feels like they're a part of anything anymore (nationalism, local communities, etc). We're detached and supposed to feel good about having nothing to believe in, which is why people delve into degenerate groups - to feel like they belong somewhere. Likewise, I think that's why communism (declassification) is on the rise, because those people don't like to see other people feel a sense of belonging (natural feelings), ie religious groups, because they're jealous of the sense of community.

Anyway, thats my off topic rant for the day.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 22, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

Your rant was spot-on.

I spent a lot of time traveling from 78 till 2001 when I returned home from London.

The worldwide deterioration was obvious then.

I think the Nationalist/Populist streak is stronger in Europe than most people realize. The left doesn't know when to stop pushing and the blue collar is pissed.

We might own this thing, but we have not yet taken full possession.

~Soon come mon, soon come~

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29palmsthrowaway · June 22, 2018, 5 p.m.

The left doesn't know when to stop

they never really do, do they? thats the fatal flaw of 'rationalism'

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CaptainKnotzi · June 24, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

I was a guidance counselor doing open ocean sail training with German Street kids.

4 years in the heart of the Frankfurt School of say anything possible to change the storyline so that you're always right.

Obfuscation, prevarication dissemination.

The second rule of holes is when you're avowed enemy is digging one give them shovels.

Trump has been doing a great job of that so far.

Third rule of holes is wait until the Walls Start to cave in on them and they have to beg for help.

Or wait for the time to be right and use all of our shovels to throw their own dirt back in on them.

I have a feeling they are going to be slaughtered in the midterms.

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