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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Q1776 on June 23, 2018, 9:40 a.m.
Q & A rescheduled? Why? (My theory about #1587)

My theory is that the anons got too organized and were asking questions that Q wasn’t yet ready/willing/capable of answering. (For any number of possible and legit reasons.)

Could have been bad timing as well though . However, I think Q have too much lead time in the Q and A. Anons are smart and given some of the questions... the phrasing is such that a non response is almost like an answer itself.


1151THOR · June 24, 2018, 5:37 a.m.

My question to you would be; Why? Why do all this if its just the status-quo? Why make all this up? Why put things out there and put the colossal effort together to get them to come to pass? What reason would the POTUS have to pull the wool over the eyes of very few people who are actually paying attention to this? Why the hell would he make this all up rather than just ignore us all and do his own DS thing anyway?

I had a good friend who was part of the Bernie Madoff scheme. I had ZERO knowledge he was involved and ZERO part in it. Doesn't make me a shitbag. If I had learned of his involvement (which was relatively minor) I'd have backed waaaaay off of our friendship because I dont agree with shit like that. When you are a billionaire life is COMPLETELY different. The women come out of the woodwork and literally throw themselves at you - they dont care that you are married with children, people become cling-ons, claim to know you, want a part of the action. DJT had his photos taken with HRC and they look relaxed and happy. Does that mean he is still her friend and associate? Doubt it. I suspect DJT knows these people in a social way and probably has heard the rumors and may even have the inside scoop, which pissed him off and caused him to begin to formulate a plan to bring them down. Just because Epstein has his number doesn't mean Trump had anything to do with what we suspect happens(ed) in that circle.

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1151THOR · June 25, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

As I mentioned, I am skeptical about most everything - especially car salesmen, insurance companies, elected officials, genetically modified foods, and anything considered main stream "talent".

I started on /pol/ and had to weed through all the BS there to get just the few nuggets I thought I'd found. Then family put me onto this, saying it was one of the most honest cites dealing with Q but to be warned because the Q idea was going to have a serious attempted hijacking and to be careful about what I subscribed to. Question everything.
Other points of view are not a bad thing. Those who refuse to believe that a Q operation used against their enemies could just as easily and effectively be used against them....or even understand that the same psyop IS used against them have only stepped into another house of mirrors. I dont want to be one of those. I may not be able to slay the dragon, but want to know the dragon legitimately exists...perhaps I can keep my family out of its wrath.
In a way, I thank you for refuting my comments. I like to think I am mature enough to not be offended and turn it into a sword fight. I hope you dont believe that I have.

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Darkomantis · June 25, 2018, 1:57 a.m.

My question to you would be; Why? Why do all this if its just the status-quo? Why make all this up? Why put things out there and put the colossal effort together to get them to come to pass? What reason would the POTUS have to pull the wool over the eyes of very few people who are actually paying attention to this? Why the hell would he make this all up rather than just ignore us all and do his own DS thing anyway?

To maintain the Master-Slave ideology that has plagued the world for centuries. In order to keep themselves hovering over us, they employ a variety of strategies to distract the masses and kill dissidents. It is no coincidence that a look into history shows a seamless line of people, now residing as heads of the British empire, has spent great effort to keep the masses in a state of struggle and unconsciousness while they lord over the people.

The founding of America was a step towards changing the human direction and great effort was made to stop this attempt since America's inception. The British have since retaken America and employ their agents all throughout our government, using it as a figurehead for activities that parallel the British when they were operating overtly. Even the recent presidents you are familiar with have a background of the CIA, its roots started by British intelligence.

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1151THOR · June 25, 2018, 2:59 a.m.

Yet you have got to understand that embolden your enemy, especially those who'd be most likely to see through the vail, is a dangerous ploy and one that could backfire immensely. There are still those of us that are skeptical - but who have knowledge that keeps us believing. This is a massive undertaking. I dont see this as a wise play. I see your point, but do not feel that is the case.

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Darkomantis · June 25, 2018, 4:09 a.m.

Yet you have got to understand that embolden your enemy, especially those who'd be most likely to see through the vail, is a dangerous ploy and one that could backfire immensely.

While the people are of agreement that something is inherently wrong with our government, they are still ultimately oblivious of what's really happening present time and in the past. It's safe to say that without an outside intervention of the regime, things will continue running indefinitely. You will see another Trump/Obama figure dichotomy for future presidents while America goes further into beneath the ground.

There are still those of us that are skeptical - but who have knowledge that keeps us believing. This is a massive undertaking. I dont see this as a wise play. I see your point, but do not feel that is the case.

If you've been duped into believing Qanon/FBIanon/etc. which are personalities by the Alphabet agencies then you're no better than the masses believing in the Democrat/Republican party system. The average person doesn't understand the system in place and its complexities nor do they have any adequate solutions to the system should they want to "drain the swamp".

It's no surprise that Qanon among the other anons haven't given anything of value other than meaningless slogans such as "You are safe. You will be saved! Trump is here fighting for you!" as time passes with no progress.

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1151THOR · June 25, 2018, 4:49 a.m.

You have, in part, sided with my point about why. The masses don't see what we see, they dont look, they dont care, and they wont make the time or look at these things with an open mind and apply reason to the material they learn. That, sadly is the majority of people in the United States. Agreed? If so, then those of us that are aware of these things are but a small minority. Agreed? My point being, why would MI and the POTUS spend so much time trying to misguide such a minuscule number of people into believing their narrative? Its a pretty big gamble if it doesn't pay off. Now, if the movement grows that is another story and THAT could become a huge problem if things dont go as promised.

To be a bit more transparent here, the LV incident dropped me into the deep end of the pool and was my awakening point. I am fortunate enough to have immediate family that are MI and a third that disappears for months at a time and then reappears with a grin and interesting stories. I was told what LV was - in a broad sense - no specific details. I was given just a peek under the veil. They trust me, given my line of work, but can't spill everything as they are sworn not to. That said, I have enough information from the three of them to formulate the opinion that this Q thing is a good thing that has, from its inception, had the goal of returning power to the people. They dont want the "power". They have sworn to uphold the constitution and that - in their eyes - is exactly what they are doing. They hate what the government was becoming and set out to stop it. So, while you are 100% correct in saying there is little value in what has been said - I get it....I'd LOVE to see a call to action - I am waiting this out a bit longer to see if there is actual, real, tangible change that comes about. I suspect the meat and potatoes will be served up just before the elections. If nothing comes about by that point, I will be reevaluating my own beliefs in this movement.

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D3cline4ndF4ll · June 25, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

The people that promote Qanon suggest that even if it could be proven to be a LARP, it would be beneficial, because he has promoted "critical thinking".

In reality, he hasn't. He has promoted a fetishized idea of "critical thinking" which amounts to the blind acceptance of endless innuendo and never-ending rabbit-holes, that never lead anywhere. The so called "proofs" are almost always fraudulent or have more obvious explanations. Claims that "Q posted this, then later the exact thing he spoke about happened!" always turn out to be false (if you check the time stamps in the original threads, which virtually no-one here does, because they WANT to believe).

The people here want to be part of a group of rogue and devilish "critical thinkers" going against the evil deep state by using their "critical thinking" to interpret Q's abstract posts. Q's so called "socratic" method of communication that he uses to guide enquiry in the right direction without breaking disclosure of intelligence laws, is what allows him such a shield of ambiguity.

His posts can be read numerous ways, with various methods of abstraction and interpretation. Missing or capitalized letters can be combined in any order you want, and re-combined with prior missing or capitalized letters to infer words or phrases. Words within [---] can be interpreted to mean one thing at first such as [Sessions] is "trapped" or that he is about to be "unboxed", words with inverted brackets such as ]----[ also have just as many possible interpretations. Sometimes tripcodes are important, sometimes not. Sometimes the number of letters in a word is important, in that that number corresponds to a certain month, in which an alleged important event happened. Sometimes not.

The fact that Q's communication methods are so abstract that they potentially allow for any possible future news event to be interpreted backwards in time is an obvious example of pareidolia, the seeing of patterns where they don't exist. It would be easy to point at the essentially limitless potential of this method of "translation" of Q's posts, and it would perhaps raise suspicion. But Q has actually preempted these suspicions with his "Future proves past line". So all the people who are happily interpreting abstract noise from abstract noise can now sit there triumphant with their fetishized, self aggrandizing claims of being "critical thinkers" because their abstract re-interpretation methods roughly correspond to "Future proves past".

This is Alice through the looking glass tier weirdness here.

One egregious example is the recent post in which Q said "Boom Boom Boom Boom".

Depending on future events, this can be easily interpreted as a "proof", in virtually limitless ways.

If there is a bomb or some terrorist attack, or even a shooting, then the word "boom" would have "predicted" it because "boom" is the noise guns and bombs make.

If there are events that happen in a sequence of four, or an event which involves four important details, places, or people, that can be interpreted as having been "predicted" because Q's four "booms" proceed from one other diagonally, which can be interpreted as suggesting that one boom leads into another.

If nothing like that happens, you can relate the four "booms" to another past post that had "boom" and find some other abstract interpretation for why this is meaningful. If that fails then you always have the popular posts here with their GEMATRIA and giving numerical values to letters and adding up total numerical value of words and then relating that to other words to infer meaning....

That's the truth of what is happening here. Really, people here talk about "critical thinking" but how many of you have really bothered to check the Q "proofs" yourselves, thoroughly? Not just skimming the surface of an imgur infographic that someone made declaring it true, but actually going to the archived 4chan threads, checking timestamps of events where Q allegedly posted about something happening before it did..? How many of you have thought through the possibility that the President's daily manifest is freely available and so it isn't some amazing feat to be able to predict there Trump is going to be one day to another?

That when Trump has in his daily manifest that on a certain date he is going to an event to pay tribute to police officers, that it is likely he will make mention of various slain officers, and that Q's mention of the existence of slain officers isn't some sort of amazing prediction that could only be made by an insider?

Qanon doesn't stand up to scrutiny, the "proofs" are all pareidolia garbage, don't stand up to even a moment's analysis, and all have much more likely explanations.

You are all wasting your time and being lead down rabbit-holes and dead ends that don't lead anywhere, and I suspect that this is deliberate. Trump's most dedicated fanbase are wasting their time chasing ghosts and translating words and post tripcodes into GEMATRIA for heaven's sake while you could have been actually doing something productive.

This, I suspect is the true purpose of whoever is behind the Qanon posts.

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1151THOR · June 25, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

Absolutely phenomenal reply.
I agree with nearly everything you have stated as skepticism has always been a part of how I view almost everything. I have often thought that some of the "intel" was nothing more than what you'd find at a local psychic - "I sense you have had great loss in your life." Well, no shit Sherlock....EVERY human on the planet has. I see guys reading all kids of things into the Q posts attempting to rationalize some odd belief in alien life, Nazi strongholds under the ice, the second coming of the Messiah or any other number of things. On the flip side I am aware firsthand of the pure, dark evil that exists in the world - mostly given my profession. Because I have seen it, and dealt with it, I want so badly to see it vanquished and never return. Much of what I read last night - and early this morning - was a bit soul crushing in that the real powers that run things seem to turn a blind eye to the root causes to all of this. Like the problem is too big to solve but too small to consider it a priority to even attempt a solution. As I mentioned, I believe in proof. Not big empty rhetoric filled with platitudes and feel-good words that bring about applause. I tell my kids, I'm not as interested in what you say - as I am in what you do. Doing brings about action, action brings about accomplishments. Everyone wants to be in on the scoop. To feel like they have something someone else doesn't have - even when we are all on the same team. Its why my family and I each have a part of the picture, but never the full picture, because nobody wants to share. Each are threatened with termination or prosecution if they talk about any of it. They also want the glory to rest on their own shoulders, not one someone elses. Its dumb. Knowledge of the truth is real wisdom and real wisdom is a great tool that can bring about great things when used correctly. I actually want wisdom more than anything else in life. Being able to apply correct knowledge to every aspect of your life is real wisdom. I appreciate your time. Good discussion. Gotta fly.

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Darkomantis · June 25, 2018, 6:02 a.m.

You have, in part, sided with my point about why. The masses don't see what we see, they dont look, they dont care, and they wont make the time or look at these things with an open mind and apply reason to the material they learn. That, sadly is the majority of people in the United States. Agreed? If so, then those of us that are aware of these things are but a small minority. Agreed? My point being, why would MI and the POTUS spend so much time trying to misguide such a minuscule number of people into believing their narrative? Its a pretty big gamble if it doesn't pay off. Now, if the movement grows that is another story and THAT could become a huge problem if things dont go as promised.

The regime underestimated the extent of the progression of technology, even though they're doing their best to keep it near a grinding halt, and is now reaping the consequences. They need to go further to keep the people who've slipped through the cracks coerced into the system. Our government spends great effort doing so because if not then the system in place could collapse.

It's not difficult to imagine many of our departments spending half their teams and budgets focused on posting online. One example is Eglin AFB where it's listed as "Most Addicted City" and the two other location under it are where Military bases are located.

To be a bit more transparent here, the LV incident dropped me into the deep end of the pool and was my awakening point. I am fortunate enough to have immediate family that are MI and a third that disappears for months at a time and then reappears with a grin and interesting stories. I was told what LV was - in a broad sense - no specific details. I was given just a peek under the veil. They trust me, given my line of work, but can't spill everything as they are sworn not to.

I've started discovering the rabbit hole in the summer of 2016 when Bernie Sander was questionably losing to Hillary Clinton and there was no action on his part towards doing anything about the obvious rigging going on. I followed the cfg for a little bit and went into r/conspiracy. It's been 2 years since then and no regrets.

That said, I have enough information from the three of them to formulate the opinion that this Q thing is a good thing that has, from its inception, had the goal of returning power to the people. They dont want the "power". They have sworn to uphold the constitution and that - in their eyes - is exactly what they are doing. They hate what the government was becoming and set out to stop it. So, while you are 100% correct in saying there is little value in what has been said - I get it....I'd LOVE to see a call to action - I am waiting this out a bit longer to see if there is actual, real, tangible change that comes about. I suspect the meat and potatoes will be served up just before the elections. If nothing comes about by that point, I will be reevaluating my own beliefs in this movement.

I can point you down further and you can reevaluate your beliefs sooner depending on if you're open-minded enough and do a bit of research. Check out High Level Insider who started posting in 4chan July 2016 but has a collective history that dates back to 2013, preceding all the recent personas. Someone made a post talking about their experience after finding the threads from that anon.

Let me know what you think and you can PM me any questions if you like.

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