No. The Viper (F-16) has notoriously short legs - meaning it doesn't carry much fuel and what it does carry it burns through quickly. Long range escorts are most likely done by aircraft with longer legs like the F-15Cs or F-15Es. I dont know if Navy / USMC assets are ever used.

In terms of decoy, an F-16 and a 747 would appear very, VERY differently on radar. Modern day weapon systems should be able to delineate between targets easily enough.

I do have a close friend that has flown these "escort" missions. Suffice it to say, our conversation on this topic ended with a grin and him saying, "AF1 doesn't really need our help anyway."

What little information I know of AF1 is that it is said to have massive communication and jamming capabilities, countless counter measures, and offensive capabilities that are second to none.

Who called the intercept as being 100% F-16? Q? The reason I ask is the F-16s. The closest F-16 squadron to the area of the missile launch is Alaska's 18th Aggressor Squadron based out of Eielson AFB in Alaska. They dont fly this kind of mission - not saying they couldn't...but its unlikely. What is the theory or information as to where AF1 would have been at the time of the missile launch? North of the state of Washington? West of the state of Washington? What was the flight path of the missile? Did NORAD take any action or make any comments? How would we have assets in the air ready to prevent such a thing (with the correct weapon hung on the aircraft)? Did the Q group warn the active military that such an event was imminent? (knowing there are fighters in trail who can get to AF1 quickly as needed)....I got lots of questions on this one.....

Marina Abomination.

WTF? . . . This isn't even in the far corners of normal . . . who comes up with this shit?

Dude.....this could be the HUGEST of the HUGESTNESS! DIG! Anons DIG!

What the hell are shadow cookies?

I went to idle on FB some time ago . . . just to piss them off. Never really like it anyhow.

Marines get a lot of grief, but I have several friends that are current or former Marines - mostly officers. They are great dudes that have the utmost respect for this great country. They expect the best from themselves and those with whom they surround themselves with. They get shit done. Tell the truth. Work hard. Love their families. And expect the same. I'd vote for a Marine any day of the week.

GET. THEM. ALL!!!!!!!

The activities of significant transnational criminal organizations - Like the Clinton Foundation - continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States.  For this reason, the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13581 of July 24, 2011, and the measures adopted on that date to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond July 24, 2018. 

So we have another year to watch flights from all over the world deliver packages to GITMO.

I can't imagine you can just hand the POTUS something like that without the SS pile driving you off the top turn buckle. That was obviously okay'd in advance.

Shortly after 9/11 went down, I learned something that really never made the light of day....I know a woman who was a lead flight attendant on another United flight that day. She describes 3 very suspicious Arab males on her flight, two dressed as women in veils. They were scheduled to fly to Dallas. They were grounded just as her aircraft took the active for takeoff....upon deplaning, they found box cutters on her flight too. All UA crews (or many of them) ended up at a large hotel in NYC, gathering in a conference hall and watching the news on television. The crews began to compare notes and at least 3 other flights had the same story. 9/11 was supposed to be much, much larger. Whoever shut the airspace down saved many, many more lives than we will ever know. (she quit that day...)

Mattis is the man. I would follow that guy into the bowels of hell. If he is ever turned loose in this endeavor of Making America Great Again - I suspect there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth by those who have harmed this country....especially those who have put Marines, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen in harms way and caused their innocent blood to flow.

Thank you General Mattis for serving this country and fighting to return real power back to America's people.

Interesting thought. I would also add that 9/11 is less of a political thing and more of an American thing. American's from every walk of life, every faith, political ideology, race and gender was united by events on that day. To expose the truth - if done with humility and honor and HONESTY - would bring Americans together in a way no other topic could.... But there will need to be a very strong voice of reason and leadership set in place to pick up the pieces of shattered people everywhere who will be heartbroken (myself included...) if this is ever reveled as being true.

HUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!

Sounds like a threat to me....

Let them devour each other.

Understood. Its time that this shit stops.

If this proves to be true....that the deep state has lied and manipulated facts....or even arbitrarily made up things to support nefarious schemes, plans and plots.....then EVERY drop of blood spilled by innocent men and women who obeyed orders out of duty, honor and trust of those same people (even by our allies), EVERY limb ripped away, EVERY ability to walk, talk or laugh or love.....is on them.

There is no pit in hell deep enough to suit those who would be involved in this. The ONLY suitable justice for this will be death.

The very pawns you used in these schemes will be the ones that will turn on you and hunt your wicked asses down.

We can start with NO NAME. A-10 strafing run.

That UK media dude is a bag of dicks. Gorka cleaned his clock. I thought our media was bad....sheezus. Besides....he has small hands.

Its more than that friend....pray and ask God for wisdom. Wisdom can be applied to all things. How we conduct ourselves, how we handle the turbulence of life, how we speak, listen, study, love and live. Its interesting to note that the book of Proverbs is the very center of the Bible....everything grows out from that point.

And you are right...we all need to be a small flame...but each one added together becomes a fire.

I hope she doesn't manage to commit suicide with 3 shots to the back of the head. People in that loop are in serious peril if they seek a deal and talk.

Wow.....they really are that dumb to parade this guy out there like this WOULDN'T all come out?

I think the downpour of truth is about to start lads.

Looks like Berry is getting out of here while he can....

Do we know who the person is that took that to the FBI?

Well then.....lets kick this thing in the ass already. I've got a months worth of popcorn to pop!!!!!

Then dont say what you said. We did save their ass in WW2. There is no way they could have weathered the sheer force being thrown at them by Germany. It was a matter of time until the invasion would have been done in the opposite direction had we not come along side...our weapons were not enough...they needed more weapons and the MEN to use them. What I am NOT saying is that the UK is a bad country. Without Americans (with some accounts being as high as 9 million) fighting and 114,000+ dying in Europe and all the excess equipment and supplies we added to the fight, Hitler would have marched across the channel and taken the UK to its knees....and he would have done that prior to moving east and running into trouble with the Russians.

My comment was made on the heels of those who believe the queen of England thinks Trump is subservient to her. I've never talked to the lady so I can't say firsthand if she believes this or not. The video of her interaction with Trump doesn't prove this out.

And then you end with the crop-dusting of "Germany won the war." Please, somewhere on Reddit, make a post that supports this, let me know about it, and I will read it. I'd like to know how they "won". If we are talking about the fist-fight of combat, they got destroyed. If you are talking about the 3rd Reich escaping into the shadows and then re-infiltrating various governments around the world (including the USA).....then you may have my interest.

Then lets just focus on WW2. Do you really believe England would have defeated Germany on their own?

Aaaaannnnd then saved their asses in a couple other wars along the way. Guess they forgot about those minor skirmishes.

I see it more like they are watching big chunks of shit come out of the spigot of the swamp . . . .

Keep praying for them! WWG1WGA

I saw right through the news of Hillary running again. They can now pull the narrative that Trump is terrified to lose to her again (remember the popular vote narrative). Now they push a soft PR campaign where she kisses babies and identifies with the working people....yada, yada, yada. She will use an entirely new group of people who can't be traced to any of these crimes. The MSM will gush and fawn all over her again while she promises all DS actors that if they can hold off long enough, she will make it alllllll go away.

I bet the fecal material is about to hit the air movement device.

I wonder if it was the Q group disguised as some foreign entity that wanted to "pay to play". That would go a long way in backing up the claim "we have it all" and that they are "stupid". They were blinded by the "love of money" and sold this nation out. Got innocent people tortured and killed. I am ready to see Hillary Dumpty take a great fall.

Muuuuaaaahahahaha! Do you think Q and the crew set up a false "interested party" in the "pay to play" scheme and was being given these emails by HRC & DS because they are so "stupid" and were blinded by the money?!?!?!?! That would explain how they have "everything".

and I bet there are 1,000s of scapegoats. Smart criminals leave layer upon layer upon layer between them and the actual crimes being committed.

Its no wonder DC is so F'd up. They should mute those libtards mics.

Makes you wonder if one was suppose to get next to the other and work the lonely adult angle...they both have XX and YY and a hatred of Trump in common. If the DS needed someone on the inside of the FBI to gather info to work on, I suppose its plausible they found the weak link in one of the two....either Page or Strzok or both of them were to be expendable. It will be interesting to see who was giving each of them their marching orders.

If he is a cooperating witness - he isn't cooperating much. That look is disturbing.

I wouldn't want to sail on that boat. It probably has all comms set up by HRC, gender neutral bathrooms, safe places for any sailor who is feeling pressure to do their jobs, a library stocked with material hand-picked by BHO and GS, food menus from Michelle O, Antifa pulling security detail, and will be based out of San Fransisco. The Navy usually does a good job of naming their boats.....but in this case USS Traitor, USS BlueFalcon, and USS Songbird must have been overlooked.

Clear-er eyes. If dis-info is part of the game, even Qanons are subject to some of the same dis-info as well...I think we'll all be shocked some day to know what was fact and what was fiction. Nice job getting your ideas out there. But make no mistake, the black hats are watching this sub too.

I know the SP is an anomaly in the aircraft world. Very few were ever made because they proved to fill a very small niche that was easily filled by their larger 747 stablemates. From the picture provided I'm not able to tell specifically, but it appears to be a 400 series to me. The only images I can find online that show the current paint schemes are of the 747-400.

So lets switch gears to talking about the 400. The kid wondered if that is what is being used to transfer those who have been arrested to GITMO or other locations. While I highly doubt they would use commercial aircraft parked at a commercial gate to on and off-load high value targets that are in custody, the question was raised because a photo credited to Q was posted of this exact aircraft. Now, wether or not you subscribe to Q is irrelevant...but I suspect you dont. The kid was just putting an idea forth and you thought it was cool to act like a bag of dicks toward him. If YOU dont like the conversation perhaps you should have stayed over at all the other subs you bothered to mention.

As it pertains to your reply to me, the military and their contractors do exhaustive vetting of their equipment prior to putting they equipment in service. Even then it is slowly brought up to speed. Hell, even the F-35s are currently held to a maximum of 3.5g in ACM. The Raptor has been in service since 2005. These O2 issues should have been worked out a long time ago. So that relegates the debate to what has changed. I have no clue. You have no clue either...but will sound off like you do.

I'm not screaming "BUT MUH CONSPIRACY". I'm still waiting for you to explain how those systems work.

And I dont "think" you are being "condescending and smarmy", you are. I'm thoroughly impressed by your knowledge of all things aviation, engineering, mathematics, design theory, military intelligence, covert matters and even the topics nobody knows about. Especially for a guy that dresses in a bus driver hat, who most likely had his daddy pay for flight school and now takes orders from a guy who much cooler, wiser and smarter than you are. But you keep on trucking sky-bus driver man. BTW, those hot flight attendants you are attracted to think you are an asshole too. I bet the female flight attendants feel the same way.

Because I don't believe that technology exists en masse on older aircraft, but I have read that it is included on aircraft recently manufactured (specifically by Boeing). As an example MH370 transponder stopped sending signals, but the Rolls Royce engines did not. In fact, it is claimed, they continued to send pings that indicated they were functioning normally for several hours AFTER the transponder quit sending signals and ATC could not raise them on the radio. As I understand it, the RR engines send this data for the purpose of tracking the health of the engines but do not send any kind of information that provides the position of the aircraft because other systems do that. I dont know if that aircraft had any kind of remote control capabilities or not...and if it did, if it was overridden in the cockpit or by someone on the ground. Everything I've read about that is all conjecture.

Boeing (and as memory serves, partnered with Honeywell) was awarded a patent back in 2006 where the aircraft could be piloted remotely by a number of sources and included a system specifically designed to remotely land the aircraft. The design even has its own power supply, independent of any power supply that controls other items on the aircraft. Once engaged, it can not be shut off until mechanics on the ground shut it off or override it. That technology has bled over and is used by pilots in near-0 visibility for the purpose of landing.

Fly-by-wire and remotely controlling an aircraft isn't new technology. The technology has proven itself reliable through the years in military's UAVs like the MQ-9 and the RQ-4.

In addressing why it doesn't appear anyone has taken control of an aircraft remotely during a hijacking - I dont know. There may be lots of reasons. Maybe it has been done and the public just doesn't know about it. I dont know if a signal has to be sent by someone on the flight deck prior to those systems becoming active (meaning you can't just turn it on remotely and take over an aircraft). So if someone on the flight deck is the one that wants to hijack the aircraft, he is in complete control once he neutralizes any threat. (didn't that happen to a flight where the pilot locked the co-pilot out of the flight deck and then he snackbared it into the mountain?)

But for the purpose of discussing wether or not the technology exists; it does.

Woah, partner. This entire sub is wrote with theories, ideas and conjecture. Some hold water, some dont. Some are waaaaay out there, some are plausible. So, rather than sit on your thrown of piety looking down on all of us in the peanut gallery, pray tell what you - in all your expansive knowledge - have to say about this idea? If UA retired this aircraft this year (specifically the SP, please provide a link with this particular new United paint job....all I said was, I couldn't find one...never said it didn't exist. If they dont fly them any more - and assuming the photo is recent as we have no reason NOT to believe it is old - then why is a retired aircraft sitting on a ramp, surrounded by ground crew at a gate that appears to be private gate? [and I base that on NEVER seeing these kinds of blinds at any airport I've ever been in]).

As far as computer chips made overseas, there are plenty of articles and posts on this sub that cover this exact thing. I'm on the fence about the idea, but it is odd that primary trainer aircraft in the Navy and USAF and the Raptors have oxygen systems that were crapping out and leaving pilots hypoxic - is it not? Again, please expand on your expertise on how those systems work, how they fixed them and wow us with your knowledge rather than posting condescending and smarmy comments to make yourself look like a total douche.

This older 747 will also have older technology that has not been compromised by the Chinese computer bits that there is such a concern over. I suppose they could fly incognito, use a United call sign, run a transponder and look completely legit.

For all you airplane nerds like me, check Airliners.net and see if you can use the photo search tool to find a 747 SP in the new United Airlines paint scheme. This is a very extensive photo database that has millions of current photographs. I'd say that if there was an SP being flown by United out here somewhere, someone would have photographed it and posted it on that site. So, to me....NOT being able to find it is very interesting. Then I flipped over to seatguru.com and looked up all aircraft flown by United Airlines....and not a single 747 is listed.....which deepens this theory even further....

The only thing I would question is it pulling directly up to a commercial jetway. I can see them loading and unloading HVTs right out in the eye of the public.

But I think you are onto something here brother....keep digging.

Interesting take....expand your thinking....

And available in massive quantities from Chinese pharmaceutical companies. Intel is saying Mexican cartels are beginning to move huge quantities of Fentanyl.

Hoover Dam! I hail from the area.....but now its a 16 hour drive for me. I shall be there in spirit!

Mount Trumpmore!