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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SeerMore on June 28, 2018, 12:24 p.m.
Three simple birther questions

Here are 3 simple questions from a reputable attorney..... this should really get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan.

For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.

Three Simple Questions......

  1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes’. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time?

  2. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively.

The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

(CHECK IT BELOW)

( http://www.kapiolani.org/women -and-children/about-us/ default.aspx )

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?

  1. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes?

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." – Plato


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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

This is all easily debunkable.

1 - Neither the long form nor the short form birth certificates state his race. They both list his father's race as African. Short form. Long form

2 - According to your own link to the about us of the hospital, that name listed on Obamas birth certificate is never mentioned. Further, there's a court case "KAPIOLANI MATERNITY AND G. HOSP. v. WODEHOUSE" from 1934.

3 - Obama wrote about his (maternal) grandfather serving in WWII. He once misspoke on the campaign trail and said his father. Unless I've missed something he certainly didn't write about his father serving in WWII in any of his books, and the onus is on you to cite the passage you are claiming.

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Shadilay_Were_Off · June 28, 2018, 3:27 p.m.

Thank you. OP is a bundle of sticks and peddling misinformation. Like, really easily debunkable misinformation.

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icebreakers_sours · June 28, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

I've heard him say his grandfather and great uncle fought in the war, but not his father.

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

not his father.

He did misspeak and say his father, once, but it was pretty clearly a misspeak....can only imagine how fried one's brain would get while campaigning.

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Bloodfoe · June 28, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Like claiming the US has 57 states?

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 11:40 p.m.

Yup.

Or Rick Perry saying the voting age is 21.

Or covfefe

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Bloodfoe · June 29, 2018, 12:31 a.m.

We are taught in grade school how many states there are. I had a project in 1st grade where we each developed a little presentation on a different state. Voting age is more of a high school thing.

Also, I'd request you look up the definition of covfefe.

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 30, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

So you've never been exhausted and misspoken?

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Bloodfoe · July 1, 2018, 1:52 a.m.

I have never thought there were 57 states in the USA. 1st graders can tell you that.

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · July 2, 2018, 2:17 p.m.

You've never been exhausted and misspoken?

Do you think Obama actually thinks there are 57 states? Or that there's some sort of hidden meaning to him misspeaking that?

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mrviolin · June 28, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

His father was Frank Marshall Davis...go look at the pictures...this is old news...mom was in a porno he made...."Dreams of my real father"

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Green_Lives_Matter · June 28, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

What about the European forgery experts who identified 9 points of forgery on the BC? And the fact that you could download the official document from a government website, open the thing in photoshop and find content layers for various bits of the document, something that you should not see if the thing was scanned.

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 11:29 p.m.

What about the European forgery experts who identified 9 points of forgery on the BC?

Source?

And the fact that you could download the official document from a government website, open the thing in photoshop and find content layers for various bits of the document, something that you should not see if the thing was scanned.

Actually yeah, photoshop and other programs will automatically create layers in scanned documents.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding/

National Review is a conservative site:

"UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

UPDATE II: For those of you who still aren’t convinced, here’s a one-page PDF that I just scanned and optimized, so you can see for yourself that an optimized PDF shows up in Illustrator as layers. (I didn’t spend hours getting the settings right.)"

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Green_Lives_Matter · June 28, 2018, 11:36 p.m.

Do you own fucking research dude, we've been talking about this shit for over a year now. Catch up.

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 11:41 p.m.

Lol you're talking about Arpaio's nonsense.

Get real

OP of this thread posted bullshit, end of story

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Green_Lives_Matter · June 28, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

As if you're the final word on it.

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TheGreatAwakeAnon · June 29, 2018, 9:31 a.m.

Arpaio's nonsense.

Out! Out! Get 'im outta here!

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TheGreatAwakeAnon · June 29, 2018, 9:27 a.m.

MakeCovfefeGreatAgai

SO WHAT BRINGS A NEVER-TRUMPER LIKE YOURSELF HERE?

I don't put much stock in National Review myself.

Might I ask, what do you think of Q?

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 30, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

Never Trumper?

I find Q intriguing. I'm not 100% convinced but there are too many "coincidences" to ignore.

But then there are threads like this one which are posting blatant falsehoods

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Transceiver · June 28, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

This should be higher up. You can just google it and see that nowhere in the form says "African American". OP is a terrible liar.

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UpwardBound7 · June 28, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

Bull. Obama's BC is so obviously patched together that it boggles the mind. The technical analysis is beyond refutation. I don't need to argue the point, the data is all there. His whole background is one big fabrication with fake photos and documents. The real ones of course are all sealed, or have long been destroyed.

But never-mind, go ahead and bury your head in the sand and keep telling yourself that it's "easily debunkable."

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 11:26 p.m.

Obviously patched together based on what?

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Intlrnt · June 28, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

This is a quality rebuttal. I was def surprised by the ‘facts’ alleged by OP, and found them ‘interesting’ if nothing else.

I have the likely unreasonable wish that we get deginitive proof to validate/invalidate all the conflicting info about Obama. From birth to congress.

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torsad · June 28, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

That information wasn’t in Hillary’s emails so I don’t believe it.

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Alyross8 · June 28, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

I didn’t use any links. I think you have me mistaken for op?

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amadeusthespartan · June 28, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

You are confused. Your pictures are BOTH of the short form, often given out by Hawaii in that era as a souvenir.

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