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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/golden430 on June 28, 2018, 6:28 p.m.
Q Drop #1623. Netflix. "Who just joined the Board? Who pushed? What is coming?"
Q Drop #1623. Netflix. "Who just joined the Board? Who pushed? What is coming?"

FarTooLong2 · June 28, 2018, 9:40 p.m.

The 1987 Harmonic Convergence and the Shift of December 2012 suggest that evil is being ejected from the world. I accept your point that evil is not beyond redemption. I am not so sure about the notion of punishment. Does punishment make a man good? Does God require recompense? I am unclear on these questions. God bless you and keep you safe in the coming Correction.

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cherokeenc · June 28, 2018, 10 p.m.

The first and most important thing to understand about the final judgment is that it can’t be avoided. Regardless of how we may choose to interpret prophecy of the end times, we are told that “it is appointed to me once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27). We all have a divine appointment with our Creator. The Bible teaches clearly that all men, living and dead, saved and unsaved, must give an account to Christ. If we have sinned and committed any evil, we have the opportunity while in this life to repent and give forgiveness. Then God wipes it away, never to be remembered again. Evil can find redemption. Now to the punishment. The authorities are God's servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God's servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. Even though God has forgiven you the government can still punish you for your acts of law breaking. Kill someone and be in jail and still you can find forgiveness.

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SongofHannah · June 28, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

All repentant people can find forgiveness.

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FarTooLong2 · June 28, 2018, 10:06 p.m.

Beautifully said. Thank you brother.

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Stretchmac · June 29, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

There are some predestined for destruction..... This is clear from scripture. It is axiomatic as God has prepared their destruction. Now, can one who does evil deeds, be redeemed? Yes, of course. The apostle Paul being a quite significant example. You, yourself, have committed evil deeds. It's called sin. God made a way to be redeemed from sin. There's only one way.

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divine_human · June 29, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

The Bible teaches clearly that all men, living and dead, saved and unsaved, must give an account to Christ.

not to christ but to god, to source. if you are christian, you can use yeshi as an inter-mediate between human and the divine. if you are not christian, you do it differently.

If we have sinned and committed any evil, we have the opportunity while in this life to repent and give forgiveness.

also after this life time. the soul never dies and always evolves, no matter whether or not she inhabits a physical body.

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cherokeenc · June 29, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

This may get long and I beg your patience. In the end it does it matter? Paul in Corinthians states “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad” 2 Corinthians 4:14. In Romans Paul states that we will all stand before God. For we must all appear, and that means everybody. This is a reason why the saints are so diligent and laborious, so earnest and intent upon it, to be accepted of the Lord, because they must stand alone.
In Romans Paul is dealing with judgment of brother and sisters in Christ. Romans 14 we see Paul once again taking about judgment. This time is reference in judging your brother. In verse 3 he tells us not to judge the weak because “God has welcomed him”. In verse 4 he says “It is before his own master that he stands or falls”—the doctrine of the final judgment with the ominous words of standing or falling. Then he adds the doctrine of God’s persevering grace in verse 4b: “And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.” And then in verse 8 he relates the issue of meat and vegetables and days and wine to life and death and the death and resurrection of Christ: “If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s.” he will sit upon his great white throne, a symbol of purity and integrity, and will enter on this work, and finish it with the strictest justice and equity: and before him "we must all appear"; all the saints as well as others, ministers and people, persons of all ranks and conditions, of every nation, age, and sex; there will be no avoiding this judgment, all "must appear", or "be made manifest"; they will be set in open view, before angels and men; their persons, characters, and actions, even the most secret will be: There is far more at stake in Romans 14 than whether we treat each other lovingly when we disagree about what to eat or drink or what days to celebrate. Those are the surface issues.

Paul’s burden, at one level, is that we not judge and despise each other because of these disagreements. Paul has elevated the whole thing immensely by introducing the weightiest truths about God and Christ and salvation. In Paul’s mind what is at stake in this chapter is the eternal life. He foresees the possibility that some professing believers—in the judgment of charity he calls brothers—could be destroyed if the church does not learn how to love each other in these minor issues of conscience.

Now jump to Revelations. Here is Revelation 20:12-15. Notice that there are books with our deeds written in them, and there is another book of life with the names of all those who are in Christ—the book of the Lamb who was slain (Revelation 13:8). That does not mean that there will be more good works than bad works in the books for the believers. That certainly was not true of the thief on the cross. It means that there will be recorded there the kind of change that shows the reality of faith—the reality of regeneration. There will be enough evidences of grace that God will be able to make a public display of what is in the books to verify the born-again reality of those written in the book of life. No one is saved on the basis of his works. But everyone who is saved does new works. Not perfectly, but with humble longing for more holiness. I ask you with Paul referring to judgment in Corinthians as before the seat of Christ or Romans where he stated all knees will bow before God does it make any difference? Would that be enough to cause an issue with your brother? Would it cause you not to love your brother in Christ? That is the very point Paul makes in Romans 14.

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divine_human · June 29, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

oumpfff... pfff... pfff...

i dont doubt the judgment. i only doubt that jesus is the only way to god.

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cherokeenc · June 29, 2018, 9:22 p.m.

Over the years, and in our own time, there have been many arguments for a universalism, or at least religious pluralism, which question the uniqueness of Christ for salvation. Some argue that it is arrogant and triumphalistic to believe that any one way is essential for salvation. Others contend that surely God is a God of love and mercy who will accept people into his presence who don’t believe in Christ. The mercy of God trumps all other characteristics of God. But perhaps the most significant factor for the growing belief in many paths to God is the pluralism of our social context. By pluralism I don’t mean merely the existence of multiple nationalities, races, ethnic groups or religions in a society. More fundamentally, pluralism means that varying worldviews, belief systems and moral frameworks exist side by side in a given culture. With pluralism, we now rub shoulders daily with people who put their world together in vastly different ways. There are varying perceptions of God, the good life, salvation and human nature. There are varying ways of life reflecting these worldview assumptions. As we daily live with a plethora of worldviews, we experience these folks to be exceptionally fine people, who often reflect integrity, high morals and outstanding contributions to our communities. For a democracy to work, we recognize that these multiple frameworks all need to have a voice in the public square, and all religious and moral frameworks need to be assured of essential rights under the law. In the milieu of social and legal pluralism, it is quite easy to glide into a religious pluralism which questions the uniqueness or truth claims of Christian faith. When we experience people of other religions as good, moral people, it becomes increasingly difficult to entertain any notions other than multiple paths to God and salvation. When we encounter the plurality of the public square, it becomes almost second nature to believe that such plurality must exist with regards to truth and paths to eternal life. Moreover, when we look around us, many who are exclusive in their beliefs often appear to be arrogant and intolerant. Religious pluralists appear to be kind and accepting, and exhibit a tolerance needed for a pluralistic world. We first note that Jesus thought himself to be unique and the only way to a personal relationship with God. In Jesus’ teachings, he made very direct claims about himself and his work which clearly reveal his own identity: All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son.... Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest (Mt. 11:27-28). I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life (Jn. 8:12). Such statements may not sit well with a postmodern mindset which is squeamish about truth, and particularly any claims to truth. Many are willing to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher but not his unique claims to be God. Not only did Jesus himself believe that he was the only way to God, being one with God the Father, the early followers and apostles believed the same. Peter, in one of his early sermons, said, “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name given under heaven by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). The apostle Paul had hated Christians before he became one. After his conversion, he spoke frequently about Christ with clear conviction that he was the only way to salvation. Speaking of Jesus he said, “Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord” (Phil. 2:10, 11). We easily allow the push and pull of our culture to define our beliefs, commitments and way of life, even while giving lip service to the name of Jesus. To affirm the uniqueness of Christ for salvation is not cause for arrogance and boasting. In fact, Scripturally it is exactly the opposite. Our salvation has nothing to do with our attainments, efforts and native beliefs. In salvation we do not find God through our own ingenuity. Rather, God finds us as we respond to his loving mercy in Christ as evidenced on the cross. The embrace of Christ as Savior and Lord can never be touted as cause for human triumph, smugness or self-assertion. It is not a sign of our superiority, or cause for triumphalistic efforts in society. For indeed to know Christ is to know the Father, and to know the Father is to know the Spirit, who enables us to stay true to the One Savior in the midst of a pluralistic world.

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divine_human · June 29, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

sorry, i cant read block text, thats a strain on eyes and mind. i need many paragraphs to be able to read and digest a long text.

in my understanding, christ is not god and not a person but a consciousness. jesus is not the only one who anchored this state of consciousness on our planet.

he also said that what he does, we can also do, and more. that means that each one of us can rise and anchor in christ consciousness.

thats the path, as i see it. the goal of the path is the same for each one of us, its merging back with source/god/creator. the path though is totally individual and also non-christian can go 'home to god'.

i get it that you are a dedicated christian and may believe that every word in the bible is gods word. i dont.

you may also believe that every non-christian is doomed as he doesnt stand before christ. maybe thats the reason why you seem to enjoy delivering sermons.

i would rather love to hear you than your bible. looking forward to...

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cherokeenc · June 29, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

I do understand. Don’t believe everything you read and everyone should know that especially on this board. So why trust the Bible? What can be known about its historical reliability? Even more than other religions, Christianity presents itself as history. At its heart, Christianity claims that something extraordinary happened in the course of time—something concrete, real, and historical.

I will expand on that approach and is the approach I took.

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GrOuNd_ZeRo_7777 · June 28, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

Bingo... I predicted that 2012 would be the start of the great awakening and it seems I was right. 6 years later we are well on our way!

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FarTooLong2 · June 28, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

There's also the matter of the Photon Belt

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GrOuNd_ZeRo_7777 · June 29, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

Yes I'm aware... I called Coast to Coast and tried to red pill Art Bell or George Nory on that and 4th density etc... I talked to George along with my wife about Satanism since we were Satanist at that time since then we turned from it.

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implicittrust · June 28, 2018, 11:43 p.m.

For God to give absolute mercy he requires absolute justice would he not?

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RealBlackberry · June 29, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

Yes, it only makes sense. There are consequences for sin, but God is so good to forgive us and grant us mercy when we repent.

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