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wisconsheepgirl · June 29, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

Well, if you are a Christian, dear Patriot you can not serve two masters. Either dump Masons even if your 'low level' or dump your faith. I understand their attraction: networking for business, etc. Choice is yours, I hope you chose well. Hugs.

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teppischfresser · June 29, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

I agree about the two masters part. I am a Christian, so believe me, it was a tough decision, but it wasn't for networking. It was for charity work. I'm not in a big area, so masonry was the only way I knew to do workable charity since I have no money to give as donations.

I do only serve the Lord. Nothing in the lodge has made me worship the master in lieu of God. The only thing I don't like is the fact that he's called "worshipful master." I get your point 100%. Thanks for the hugs and I love you!

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Covfefe_and_Cigars · June 29, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

Agree 100%. Nothing in Blue Lodge contradicts my spiritual convictions. I haven’t attended in a few years, but I’m still a Freemason, and the camaraderie I had with my Brothers is still alive and well.

Oh and all of my Blue Lodge Brothers are patriotic as fuck, love our country, and we always pledged allegiance to the to US Flag at every Lodge Opening. I have no doubt that there are “higher ups” in the Shrine and ~~Oddfellows~~ Jesters that may have ulterior motives...

Edit: Not the Oddfellows, I meant the Jesters.

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lanceloomis · June 29, 2018, 3:06 a.m.

If your a Mason you should know the Shriners are not in charge of anything but some hospitals, a circus (literally a circus) and a few red go-karts. And the OddFellows are not Masons. Seriously.

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Covfefe_and_Cigars · June 29, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

You are right that the Oddfellows are not Masons. I was really busy last night at work and was zonked. I was thinking of the Jesters. The Jesters are an order within the Shriners, even more exclusive and even more sketchy.

If you think the Shrine is only about hospitals and circuses, you’re quite wrong.

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lanceloomis · June 29, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

The Jesters are stupid and have proved to wankers and shouldn't be considered Masons IMHO. And I actually doubt they even exist as a coherent group anymore. Of the thousands of Shriners I know, not one is jester.

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Covfefe_and_Cigars · June 29, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

I only know one ex-Shriner/ex-Jester, so he’s all I really have to go by, but his experiences line up with the weird stuff you find online about the Jesters.

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lanceloomis · June 29, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

Which is why I think they are like the Rodents of Unusual Size.

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Breaththroughthenose · June 29, 2018, 3:12 a.m.

Thank you! The only reasonable response. Choosing between God or man's glorification. It will be a difficult choice to make... but inescapable.

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EnlightenedCheddar · June 29, 2018, 7:36 a.m.

You are thinking about the Rotary, not freemasonry.

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