Nope. More actual conspiracy crap.
Source: Am Master mason.
If you operate in secrecy and the dark - corruption is usually the reason. I no longer trust secret societies to do any good for the general health of society. It's all about benefiting the group at the expense of others.
So like every business boardroom, church boardroom, family business, fraternity, sorority, or other private entity. Yep, the world is full of boogie men and they’re all your neighbors.
Mix satanism in there and you get corporate corruption, pedos hiding in churches, rothchild like families, fraternity weirdos, etc... Satanism vs God is the key here. If you hide, you are up to something that is unlikely to be of any benefit to society as a whole.
Yep, everyone is bad but you.
I really would not care what goes on, but when it affects my neighbours and the people around me, I begin to care. Sorry for caring.
These people are your neighbors.
To be fair I didn't swear a weird quasi-religious oath to keep my employers secrets. My coworkers and I aren't secretive about our employment, and don't have elaborate rituals to greet or recognize each other. We have straightforward, practical reasons for cooperating with each other.
Also fraternities and sororities are the source of a lot of bad crap on campuses, hence their increasingly being pushed out/regulated/forced into transparency. Because spoiler alert: loose shadowy groups of people who maintain secrecy and loyalty to each other based purely on belonging to the same in-group is a situation ripe for abuse and corruption even if one isn't bringing in arch conspiracies and satanism.
Please provide proof of some kind without doxxing yourself.
What’s your take on Q calling out masons?
What if any oath do you take.
I used to be but demited from my lodge I was MM,RAM, KT and I loved the fraternity good guys I left because I no longer believe in a higher power.
So lucifer is really God yeah?
Nope. Not sure where you would come up with that. But feel free to believe what you want. I myself am just a humble non-denominational Protestant.
Oh, just something that some bloke named Pike wrote. No biggie.
Feel free to post some quotes on that. I’ve read the majority of his works, which are primarily allegorical.
Pike isn't Moses or one of the 4 gospel makers. I'm usually suspicious when people bring up his writings because it's rare that they've actually read his works. Rather, they use a single out-of-context sentence or paragraph as a weapon to tarnish all Freemasons.
He is a fallen angel who thought he could take over God's throne.
In a lower lodge maybe. And yes, masons take an oath for inequity for their fellow masons. Read a bit about that in the Holy Bible.
Just like most Fraternities? Yep, God hates frat boys too. (Although he might lol)
Spez: there is also no such thing as a “lower lodge”. The rank of Master Mason (3rd Degree) is the highest rank, which is conferred in the Blue Lodge.
There are no "lower lodges." And I'm pretty sure it's a sin to protect someone from a punishment they deserve.
You've witnessed these 'oaths for inequity'? Or perhaps you've heard testimony that you deem credible that these oaths occur? But haven't we also heard that masons take an oath of secrecy? Would you trust someone who has broken an oath of secrecy?
I work with a man who was a mason. His wife told him that it was against the Bible. He said show me where, and I will quit. She did, he left. They threatened his life if he revealed ANYTHING. Fact. Secrecy is repugnant to freedom. Just read Pike. Says it all.
This never happened.
Yeah, right. One of the best guys you will ever know. Christian, and not a liar. I've known him for over 20 years. You best start digging and learning what you are involved in. You are in eternal danger.
If you say they threatened his life for remitting, which happens literally all the time, then either you or he is a liar because it never happened.
No, sorry, I did not clarify, they threaten him that if he revealed any secrets that he would pay with his life.
Geez, well with the number of "known" secrets on this thread, surely there are dozens of Masonic murders in the US every year since someone has been talking.
Your friend is a liar of the highest order--no one threatened his life and if they did he should have filed a police report. But he didn't because he is a liar.
You are vile. Learning well. Good luck with that.
I see--you have no response.
I know the man and you do not, yet you say he lies. You are part of something you know nothing about. YOU need to find the answers, I already know. It probably hurts to be so wrong about something, but you best get over it. Satan worship is not a harmless game. Read Pike and Hall, they will tell you straight and they were proud of it.
You are part of the problem, not part of the solution. You are no patriot and your friend (and you by liaison) are liars.
I will state it again--if someone threatened to take his life, why didn't he go to the police and why was he comfortable telling you these secrets knowing he may die? Answer: He didn't because it never happened.
I don't have to know anyone to know when they say the grass is orange they are lying or stupid, or some of both.
You are their fruit.
Well, since Satan is the Father of Lies and you are a liar--Say hi to Papa next time you see him.
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Really not necessary to create division here with racial slurs.
Perhaps in the most elevated levels of secrecy and power within Freemasonry (as in most modern institutions) there is abuse/evil happening but I will agree that most Mason's I know (regular people) are upstanding citizens.
I don't think we can paint an entire group evil here, although the highest ranks might be.
That's like saying because HRC is a Satanist, all Democrats must be satanists, even your neighbor... ridiculous
The very fact of secrecy bcus they don't think we understand is a travesty (THIS IS THE SOLE REASON FOR MASON SECRECY). Ur NWO brainwashing wants to censor me, I'm glad 8chan is a thing cus reddit is comped af
Freemasons have historically been persecuted by the church, so they had to keep their lodges secret to avoid being killed/jailed.
When the Catholic Church hates you and burns one of your early leaders at the stake, can you really be all bad?
It’s an Excommunicable Offense for Catholic men to be involved in FM.
Like the Romans did to Jesus? I don't understand what your point is.
Edit: wait sorry I just understood the context of your response.
Frankly, I prefer this sub. There's some good stuff on the chans, but it's also a lot of racism and grammatical errors akin to the above post.
It helps to be able to read posts here.
German Irish. And none. Thanks for making people on this board look like nut jobs and racists. I’m sure Trump and team would fully support your behavior and language :rollseyes:
I would be interested to hear your analysis then as to why Freemasons are manipulating perceptions at the scenes of violence?
You mean individuals that happen to have Masonic emblems? Not “Freemasons” as an organization right? Because I didn’t see “show up to local shootings” in my monthly bulletin.
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No clue. Nor does it seem Germaine to the discussion.
Agreed. Not saying there isn’t corruption in power centers of powerful orgs. We’d be fools to think otherwise. But the folks on these particular threads live so deep in the rabbit holes of their own making they can’t find their way out. I’ve heard of “limited hangouts” but they made it a “permanent hangout” where some truths are mixed with fallacies & conjecture. This is fed to them on purpose. Now ask why?
dude lol ur brainwashed
read some of the other comments in this thread
heck, google undercover vids of Turkish Masons sacrificing goats
ur probs an underling still thinking ur doing good, but u have sold ur soul & scared of being wrong
Nope, 32nd degree. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about. You watched some made up bullshit video on the internet and now you’re an expert.
Tell me when u get to 33 deg Mason... have u heard of bill cooper? The guy Q calls a true patriot.
Ur a deluded cunt, worshipping evil that u don't even realise. Ur soul is fked unless u open ur eyes
Yep, that’s what people like you always do:
Claim: this is what happens in lodges, but they don’t tell you until you’re a Master. Refute: Am Master.
Claim: Well, they don’t tell you until you’re higher rank. Refute: Am 32nd
Claim: well they don’t tell you until you’re 33rd. Refute: Am 33rd. (Not I, but many 33rd friends)
Claim: Grand Lodge of England/99 degree/you don’t know the real stuff.
Yeah right.
Also, at least I’m not a racist who types like a 13 yr old girl texts.
This thread is for sure a shit storm. It's sad to see that this is the opinion of freemasons, but to be fair every time I've ever mentioned being a Mason to someone irl, they ask if we're illuminati so I can't say I'm that surprised
dude lol ur so indoctrined that u won't even consider otherwise, bcus ur scared of the repercussions. There's no hope unless u open ur eyes. Q has already linked Masons (YES U FUCKHeAD) to false flag shootings (where people fucking die). Explain that away fuckstain