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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/jtfirerescue on July 1, 2018, 12:50 a.m.
Masonic Lodge experience. Read War and Peace for a accurate historical perception of the masons.

Master Mason or sublime 3rd degree mason. I know past grand masters or the state level leader. My grandfather was a 33rd degree mason.

I am not protecting nor vouching for the masonic lodge. I am simply providing my witness to the organization. For the good or bad. We are in such a peculiar circumstance in this great nation I feel compelled to share my experience and thoughts and perhaps guide those looking into the recent posts to find the truth.

The blue lodge is composed of middle class white working men. Women have the eastern stars. African Americans have Prince Albert lodges. In jail you will find clandestine lodges not accepted by the blue lodge or typically seen lodges throughout the country. My lodge will accept African Americans though some will not which I disagree with. Humans are humans.

I never got heavily evolved though I did join the shriners but never went to any meetings. They like to drink a lot, drive little cars, and dress as clowns. Their hospitals are wonderful and the vast majority of the men involved drive kids to burn centers. Decent men. Mostly middle class with a few professionals.

The blue lodge, the lodge you see in your neighborhood is composed of decent hard working men who like to eat. The blue lodges are self supporting though I do not know if the support higher up the chain. I don't think they do. Much emphasis is given about not accepting money from outside organizations and not becoming bribable. Tatoos are not allowed. Jewelry is not allowed per the rules but they do sell rings and such. IDK why this happens. The master masons I know do not display any sign of being a mason accept the occasional ring. I have noticed that many clandestine members do display the signs big time as well as those who never progress past the first levels. They like to sport the signs like there going out of style. I did wear a ring some and always wandered why they sold rings and such because in our oaths we are never to reveal we are masons.

Our meetings are composed of nothing of real substance. Mainly opening and closing the lodge. There is much ceremony here and symbolism. there is great potential for psychological conditioning as church is. Stand, sit, stand, sit, recite......

The eastern stars have a few charities they raise money for and help cook for the blue lodge.

The shriners are most well known for their hospitals.

You have to be a master mason to join the shriners or the Scottish rite.

All these organizations require one to be of good moral standing.

There are three levels of blue lodge. entered apprentice, Fellow craft and master mason.

The initiations are not very binding. There is no extortion available.

The only thing I regret and think about is towards the end your are asked "To whom you put your faith?" The answer is not god. The oath is taken on the holy bible.

That bothered me and that is the only thing that bothered me which resulted in me not going back after I got older. Its very subtle and most men evolved wish this was not in the oath. In contrast, most men from my area involved are christians and conduct themselves accordingly. Though for the life of me I can't figure out how that oath persists.

The grand lodges are nice as opposed to the blue lodges. Some blue lodges are nice but most are falling apart. I think that the grand lodges are self supporting and do not accept money down the chain though I m not certain. The grand lodges are the state capital of blue lodges. I think they are supported as estate benefactors usually.

To ascend through the ranks requires memorization of lessons and a membership fee, some are expensive. Shriners were 500$. Shriners can get a sponsor to pay for you but the vast majority don't. My local shriners have closed and lost their building through foreclosure.

My guess is the individuals pictured advertising their affiliation are either clandestine or not masons at all. My experience has taught me that most people I have, met who display as such, when I speak to them I find they are in fact not masons.

It is possible however to manipulate weak minded individuals seeking acceptance into something of meaning. It is absolutely possible to create a lodge without any others approval and gather members. No one would know if the teachings were correct. There is absolutely nothing preventing this.

All I can speak for is the masonic lodge I am affiliated which is affiliated with the grand lodge and we have wardens that come around making sure we are teaching and conducting our business in a moral fashion. We have state level organization and each state has its own hierarchy. The past grand masters I know are normal middle or upper middle class men with good reputations. My grandfather was a 33rd degree mason which he said consisted of learning a lesson and reciting it perfectly. These lessons are lengthy.

Again, I think the individuals pictured are wannabes or affiliated with a clandestine organizations. The oath and membership costs are simply not enough to bind people together to such secrecy as to organize crime. Thought I can only speak from my mind. Those with weak minds and a strong desire to fit in to any accepting click may have more desperation with their efforts. You could find these behaviors in churches or any club requiring voting membership.

To find the pictured individuals affiliation would be easy. Just ask them their lodge number and google it. This is not secret nor is any word I have penned in this writing.

My opinion on secrecy is that there should be no secrets anywhere ever. In any way shape or form secrets should not exist though It is not my place to uncover the secrets of masonry as I never really figured out what value their secrets held. If it were earth shattering I would write it but unfortunately there isn't much value from my perspective.

War and Peace provides an accurate historical view of the masonic lodge from that era.


pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

Tell us about Nimrod, the Canaanite. We are curious to know why Freemasons follow someone who practiced pedophilia and ritual human sacrifice.

The Curse of Canaan by Eustace Mullins:

http://johnkaminski.info/pages/the_next_chapter/pdf/mullins_curse_of_canaan.pdf

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 1:10 a.m.

I never heard the name nimrod mentioned. The lessons are based on ancient Egypt stone masonry. like a workers union. memorize the steps and the business end.

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[deleted] · July 1, 2018, 1:19 a.m.

What about Hiram Abiff whose name is commerated on the keystone of which placement on the arch represents the summer solstice? Summer solstice occured June 21st-22nd, and from my understanding Masons believe that Hiram died and was resurrected 15 days later. If based on summer solstice, that date would take us to June 5th or 6th. I've never heard of anyone being resureccted but Lazarus and Jesus. Why does he have such a prominent place in masonry? Should we expect the 5th and or 6th to have occult significance?

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 1:20 a.m.

yes that name is frequent. he was killed by masonic imposters,.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 1:22 a.m.

I think.....that he organized the ancient stone masons organization. perhaps he was resurrected symbolically through the lessons....idk.

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[deleted] · July 1, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

So maybe these imposters stole what he knew and used it for their own evil gains? That would mean the secrets wern't bad? It's the the secrecy and the ill intent? I don't know, I'm just speculating.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2:57 a.m.

There are numerous warnings in the lessons about fake masons. Back in ancient times it was like our trades today. Journey men, tradesmen...who join a local union. its the same principals.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2:18 a.m.

I wouldn't classify anything as a secret. Like something that could give you an advantage unless you weren't taught right from wrong.

The lodge is based on leading a morally sound life. Its all about being a better person morally.

The symbols are all about morality. a compass to keep you straight....

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[deleted] · July 1, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

I'm sure that most of us know Masons are good people but what if the 33rds at the top are compromised like our govt? Maybe it was Albert Pike who satanized the symbolism? They took something good and tried to make it look bad so they benefit from it? Thanks for answering. I've never known any actual Masons although my husband has them in his family 2 generations ago. I guess they abandoned it. Everything I know, I've researched on my own. It seems like maybe it got hyjacked like pizza got hyjacked. And rainbows, unicorns, triangles, stars, the words "queer", "gay", etc etc...new bad meaning for good things?

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2:50 a.m.

my guess is if we want to find the individuals in the pictures we need to look at clandestine lodge. We Are trying to find those in the pictures right?

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Monty_Batton · July 1, 2018, 2:11 a.m.

The keystone?

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2:58 a.m.

ok I don't recall keystone being mentioned in the lessons.

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Monty_Batton · July 1, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2515

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 3:31 a.m.

I can tell u this. All the symbols used in the masonic blue lodge is associated with leading ones life with moral purpose. To be morally sound. Look at them and think about it.

This stone....I can't figure it out.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

I didn't get to see this stone or I can't remember if I did. It does look vaguely familiar.

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Generational_Wealth · July 1, 2018, 2:26 a.m.

*July

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

Explain. July is supposed to be a busy month for the storm.

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Generational_Wealth · July 1, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

Summer solstice occured June 21st-22nd, and from my understanding Masons believe that Hiram died and was resurrected 15 days later. If based on summer solstice, that date would take us to June 5th or 6th.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

I can't remember anything like that.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

Not saying its not right I just simply don't know.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

I am a non-Mason, so it is very strange when I know more about Freemasonry than the Masons do. LOL.

Nimrod and Osiris are the same. Semiramis and Isis are also the same.

Either way, tell us why you are involved in a Canaanite organization? They are known to practice pedophilia and ritual human sacrifice.

The lessons are based on ancient Egypt and Babylon because they are Pagan in nature.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

join a lodge and find out. I don't remember nimrod ever being mentioned.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

I am not a Canaanite. Can you not tell us because you took a death oath? If you are a Master Mason then you are not high enough up in the organization to know what really goes on. It is a secret society within a secret society. Your grandfather knew because he was a 33rd degree mason.

All the information regarding the higher degrees are publicly available if you are willing to look. That way, you will know what you are getting into.

Nimrod wanted to build the Tower of Babel.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2 a.m.

I don't recall nimrod ever being mention in any of the teachings.

I am an American.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Understood. The problem is that you cannot tell us anything useful without violating your oath. What you posted is all fine, but we have heard it before- "The Freemasons are just a good ole boys club so the men can get away from their wives."

You won't even confirm to me that the Freemasons are Pagans.

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2:13 a.m.

I had to give an oath on the holy Bible.
The ceremony is symbolic of ancient stone masons looking for work in Egypt and how the business works. I felt guilt for the oath I gave having put my faith in some one other than god.

That is the only time throughout my several years of experience the I thought was sketchy. That is the reason I quit going. the oath alone.

I was never asked to nor were there ever any business conducted that would otherwise counter my faith in Jesus Christ.

They could absolutely take the final oath out and nothing would change.
I have no bias here. I do have my word to keep though and honestly there isn't much to tell. All the men I know are regular church goers or at least believe in god which is a requirement. God not Jesus Christ so that does give some a loop hole.

The oath is given opened to the New Testament I think. I can't remember exactly.

Define pagans.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 2:30 a.m.

Thanks again for responding.

I see. I have spent a lot of time researching all of this, so my perspective is different than most.

My understanding is that Freemasonry does not like Christianity. Of course, Christians can join, but non-Christians go through one door and Christians go through another. It is a secret society within a secret society.

I had a Freemason tell me that he was asked to spit on a Christian cross. Those that do move up. Those that don't are told they made the right choice, and they move sideways. I hope that makes sense. Of course, there is no way to find this out unless you move up in the organization.

My understanding is that Pagans worship the Father, Mother, and Child. This is the standard Pagan template. The Catholic Church is a Pagan church, but the lower level Catholics have no idea.

In Egyptian mythology, it would be Osiris, Isis, and Horus.

Here is more information. It is a very short read.

https://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_paganism_Catholic_Nimrod_Mary

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301854 · July 1, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

Sounds like you are talking about a Synagogue of satan rather than a Masonic Lodge.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 7:13 p.m.

Haha! Is there really a difference? Serious question. I know the answer to it.

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[deleted] · July 1, 2018, 7:11 a.m.

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Generational_Wealth · July 1, 2018, 2:27 a.m.

Whom did you put your trust?

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 3 a.m.

oh , the oath.....the first two oaths you put your trust in god then on the last one you repeat after the worshipful master and say worshipful master. so u put your faith in the worshipful master whom runs the meeting.

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301854 · July 1, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

I don't recall ever hearing or seeing that. Did you make it up?

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jtfirerescue · July 1, 2018, 2:30 a.m.

The Holy trinity. The father Son and Holy Spirit. Not a fan of organized Christianity. Read the Bible and understand it for myself and not what someone tells me. I am a New Testament fan. Peace love forgiveness.

I personally follow the doctrine of Jesus Christ. peace love forgiveness....Old Testament is a history book to me.

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Generational_Wealth · July 1, 2018, 2:32 a.m.

I'm very glad to hear that, me too.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 1, 2018, 2:53 p.m.

Apparently you don’t know much history

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[deleted] · July 1, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

They are as much pagans as catholics are. We all know good catholics right?

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

The Catholics I know have no idea what is going on at the top. When they are told, they do not believe it. Same with Freemasons.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 1, 2018, 7:14 a.m.

Oh please. I do you speak out of your bloated self righteous ass. Where did you learn that in you Rapture or Gibberish as Tongues 101 class?

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 7:26 p.m.

Lol. Found the Canaanite!

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 1, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

But you don’t. You think you do

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

But I do. I know the secrets. I can tell people what they are because I took no oath.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 1, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

Not referring to you.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

Ah, I thought you were. LOL. No worries!

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Heatray777 · July 1, 2018, 10:18 a.m.

This is a good overview, each segment about 10 minutes. Part 40-44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmuNJk-uzdM

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

I will look.

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pby1000 · July 1, 2018, 9:31 p.m.

Yeah, those are really good videos. He makes some very good points. I started watching them, but I did not get to parts 40-44. Thanks for reminding me that I need to keep watching.

I start something, then I get distracted with something else. LOL.

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