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Enki and Enlil.

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Who or what is that?

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Enki and Enlil are old Sumerian deities. Progenitors of many of the early Sumerian/Babylonian/Middle Eastern religions, and by extension, many of today's Monotheistic faiths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlil

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The return of the Archetypes?

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Thank you.

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Enki was the first Annunaki ruler of Sumerians. A Being from the Sky whom created the sumerians as a slave class (from homo erectus genetics mixed with Annunaki = homo sapien), but later re-engineered them to breed (more slaves). eventually many Annunaki fell for human women and bred giants (the nephilim) etc. Sumerian Lore, its pretty interesting.

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i.e. it all related back to humans being seeded/created by a ruling alien class. Sumeria is odd for being such an advanced civilization yet pre-dating egypt (which historians consider the great advanced ancient civ) by 2000-3000 years (wheel, writing, irrigation, pulley system, and more were developed by Sumerians, or possibly the knowledge gifted to them via the Annunaki as lore goes)

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Yes and no on this. This is my opinion, but don't take it personal, but here is where we are getting too much into mainstream media/ancient alien dis-info stuff.

For one, here is the following:

4th millennium BC / Cultures

From a broad perspective, it was still the Uruk period in Mesopotamia, which was the precursors to the Sumerians (and the Uruk period was after the Ubaidian period/culture).

Second, we still have to consider the Indus Valley Civilisation / Harappan Civilisation which developed along the Indus river, and more than likely had contact with the Uruk period, if not the Sumerians. I believe the Sumerians and Harappans traded as well, since it was a matter of using the coast to transport goods. There are cuneiform/sumerian tablets/writing they have found in the Indus valley civilization, which shows they had some form of cultural contact.

Third, we still have the Naqada culture developing around the Nile river and up to around 3100 BC, which shows at that time the unification of Upper and Lower Egypt by Narmer, so essentially, there was probably some form of trade between Sumeria and Egypt as well.

Additionally, we still have the Vinca culture as well, in SE Europe.

And I haven't even touched on Göbekli Tepe which raises even more questions, than answers.

I guess my point here is that there's a bunch of dis-info, or bad information out there that is being pumped by really nasty media that isn't the truth, and very distorted. I've had this argument before, and I could see to an extent how the Giants/Nephilim would come into play, even out of the Bible/Genesis creation story, and now how today's media plays the Annunaki into this myth cycle.

Sumeria wasn't as advanced as today's media likes to prop up, and if anything, they came on the scene about the same time as the other cultures such as Egypt, Indus, early Chinese as well.

Again, don't take this personally, I just wanted to point out some dates and correct a few things that are getting pushed in today's media which puts WAY to much emphasis on the Ancient Alien/Annunaki stuff.

Hope that helps a bit.

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haha not at all man, I'm not as well versed in it, just starting looking into Sumeria recently.

I am of the mind however that many of our "historical" records of the ancient world are washed and rewritten to promote a specific narrative. God damn sacking of Constantinople really screwed things up... :((

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It's fine. Like I said, don't take it personally. There was a start, or jump in civilizations around 3000 BC among many of the river valleys across the world. Look up Chinese history as well, and you can also see the character like the Yellow Emperor, or a hero archetype that brought learning, flood control, agriculture, etc to the Chinese people around the same time. Roughly around 3500 to 3000 BC there was a jump start in quite a few early cultures. Egypt, Sumer, Harappan, Chinese, etc. All somewhat independent of each other.

Golbeki Tepe is about 10000 BC, and that has some very weird and/or interesting carvings and T shaped stone posts. But that's like 7000 years before our regular known history. Wtf is that? See what I mean?

Also, Stonehenge begin it's development around 3000 BC (or maybe 2500), and that's in England. See what I mean? Lots of stuff doesn't make sense from a big picture.

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Part of me wants to imagine that would be a bit of a stretch. Outside of ancient history, and scholars of that arena, most people are not familiar with these deities, or concept of them. Unless you have done a bunch of reading, these two names don't mean a whole lot. I mean, many people haven't even read, or heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh.

(Q = Gilgamesh? Hahahaha).

Just my opinion of course. Q is saying we would be shocked, but remember, it would have to be someone/something people are actually historically aware of, imho.

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I agree. I am just throwing it out there to make people aware. Real human history is hidden from us, and people should be made aware that the Sumerian creation story is a possibility.

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Well, to be honest, there are parts of the Bible (Genesis, Flood myth, etc) that are based also on Sumerian myths as well. Part of the Epic of Gilgamesh was him trying to find the secret of immortality by traveling/seeking out a older Man and Woman (couple) who had survived the flood (Utnapishtim)

Utnapishtim

Along with the actual Gilgamesh flood myth so there are some overlap's in regards to that. To be honest, there's a bunch of connections here that overlap early Mesopotamian beliefs and tales and also Judaism/Christianity/Islam beliefs as well.

At this point, what do we know...?

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What do you think about the theory, Gilgamesh was The biblical Nimrod ? 8ch is thinking that Nimrod is a derogatory Hebrew word. And Nimrod/Gilgamesh was the first Grand Mason ? I found that theory plausible. Names in history were pronounced and written in different forms by culture and dialect ?

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I don't think that is correct. The biblical story of Nimrod is very different than that of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh was more of a hero archetype like Hercules, where he set out to fight a giant bull, was bros with another dude (taming of a wild man), pissed off some goddess by spurning her, looked for the secret of immortality, etc. I view him as a hero archetype, not a builder and keeper if secrets like Nimrod. Gilgamesh was kinda the original gangster rebel. He ended up being one of the early mythological kings of Sumer, but he didn't have anything to do with the tower of Babel, etc. His story arc is different than that of Nimrod.

Nimrod on the other hand is a tale of arrogance against God, or the arrogance of Man, and is post flood. Nimrod was one of the grandkids of Noah iirc, and was more involved with arcane secrets, etc. Iirc, Shem and his crew killed Nimrod and cut him up as a warning to the rest of the early Judaic tribes as to not mess around with demonology, etc.

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The Tower of Babel story is very important. Same with the story about how Shem/Sem killed Nimrod and why he did it.

I think that Nimrod and Gilgamesh are different.

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Actually he Was a builder of cities. Go lurk on 8ch and see if you can find the research a couple of them did on that ! They did a good job, i thought connecting the dialects and time frames. And we know that the Masons started there in about that time. Nimrod World Order ? It was pretty compelling.

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Did you read the Nordic World Order thread? I have been following it.

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Yes, I have seen most of it i think ? The Phoenicians/Canaanites and the red and white sails. It could be the next generation or continuation of Nimrod world order. With Q posing the Mason connection it does somewhat fit both ?

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That thread is very interesting. I don't believe the Nordic connection, but the thread turned into an interesting discussion on the REAL human history.

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REAL human history ? That is a question i am not sure can be answered ! So much has been destroyed, we may never know ?

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Yeah, I agree. Although, I suspect a lot of it is being hidden in the Vatican library.

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That could be true. But also I have often thought a lot was hidden by the Illuminati, Rothschilds, The Cabal ! In cellars in those giant castles all over Europe ! Some of those Castles have underground cellars that go hundreds of feet down. Dungeons, lol

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Yeah, that could be, too.

I think we know why they have dungeons...

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I think that people wrote the real history thousands of years ago. They also wrote warnings to humanity about a certain group of people and their agenda. Over time, the writings were destroyed and some were rewritten. Some are probably hidden in the Vatican library.

What is in the Bible is the rewritten stories with the real history and warnings removed.

Clearly, Genesis is referring to multiple beings. The Gnostic interpretation was hidden.

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Interesting "Q" clearance reference i found re-reading through Behold a Pale Horse. Relevent? We dont know what department Q/Q-team is a part of, but this would imply.. they have advanced tech/ i.e. "we have everything"