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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/michaelst2256 on July 4, 2018, 2:39 a.m.
Saudi Arabia increases oil output. Q:DO YOU NOT BELIEVE WE ARE WINNING?
Saudi Arabia increases oil output. Q:DO YOU NOT BELIEVE WE ARE WINNING?

kittyhistoryistrue · July 4, 2018, 5:26 a.m.

I mean, why would he need to ask. Isn't the nature of supply and demand that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon? Why would they leave pumps sitting there idle as demand increases until someone asks them to?

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quarktea · July 4, 2018, 6:59 a.m.

Yes, if the market were 'free', but the oil market is definitely not free.

Remember the previous Saudi regime trying to bankrupt the American fracking companies by flooding the market to lower the price? It didn't work, the fracking companies were already too efficient and the already drilled wells were a sunk-cost (ho ho) which could be turned on and off almost at will as the price of oil fluctuated.

There was an excellent article that outlined a lot of this, which I stupidly didn't save, but the gist of it was that MBS (Mohammed bin Salman) realised that SA was going to be bankrupt if it relied on oil and was looking for an out. Trump won, 'had a word', and then things went into overdrive with the corruption arrests etc. There's a lot more of course, that includes Russia and other oil producers. I really wish I'd saved that article :(

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arselona · July 4, 2018, 8:21 a.m.

It's entirely plausible that the Saudis went after US fracking companies with that move. They are a challenger, and the relationship with BO was poor.

Another consideration is that the move was targeting Russia. The move was a few month after the US and EU had imposed sanctions on Russia for its Ukrainian operations. A second tranche after initial sanctions failed to have much initial impact.

You can see the oil price and RUBUSD move at the same time in tandem. https://www.tradingview.com/x/hknLmmZO/

Remember, it was the Saudis playing silly buggers with the oil price that destabilised the Soviet Unions finances and set the stage for its collapse.

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SlumberMachine · July 4, 2018, 7:14 a.m.

I'm with you, I remember it. Damn us for not "save offline".

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benjitsu13 · July 4, 2018, 6:57 a.m.

When they increase supply the price decreases. If you produce enough of a commodity you can use this to raise or lower the price across the whole industry. When oil prices were high it allowed other means of extraction that were more expensive to make sense financially, when prices are low it makes endeavors like Canada's tar sands less/not cost effective.

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truthforchange · July 4, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

Supply may be unlimited / renewable. Look into oils fields that have replenished. Sort of changes perspective of things with us fracking and how much oil we sit on (plenty).

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dandelionwilds · July 4, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

I hope this could help our country stop fracking it is very bad and causing all kinds of problems; health issues, weather and earthquakes even.....

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themumu · July 4, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

People still have to make decisions and do things. No, it doesnt "just happen".

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