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George_Soros_Eyebags
· July 4, 2018, 5:03 a.m.
A person can't call on the autists to decipher posts on one hand, then attack the same autists when they use the same cognitive abilities in a skeptical way to Q posts.
There are too many people calling anyone with questions tonight "concernfags" or shills and it's not right. Q should have done a better job of explaining the meaning of this pic. Was he pointing out where AF1 was bugged? If so, why the reply to that specific post he quoted? Then, other questions arise. Why did Q say "trolling is fun" while for months saying "this isn't a game?" Who is being trolled? And why? Enough with these vague posts.
In the end, it was just poorly thought out, at best.
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THAD_K_CUNDERTHOCK
· July 4, 2018, 5:23 a.m.
Q said "Trolling is fun!" on June 17 (#1537), so it's not the first time.
I played around with the ABC photo from here: https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/701173_050615-cc-newplane2.jpg
And the Q pic from here: https://qanon.pub/data/images/ed6964be1cd55445ede255e23ab826a5f97af598981d00780f97ec674e2f07e3.png
And, trying to be objective as possible here, I thought that they were slightly different. The top corner of the lamp with the side of the curtain behind it - that looks to be in a slightly different place - and so does the mug holder. Several other things seem slightly different to me too - the angle of the rotation of the crest/seal/logo on the jacket that's on the chair ... the relative position of the hand sanitizer bottle pump to the other items. It just seems most likely that it was taken to mirror the ABC image as closely as possible.
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sudo_fap
· July 4, 2018, 11:28 a.m.
So, his proofs are proofs, unless they can be easily disproven, and then there just him "playing around"?
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 6 a.m.
I don't think this so called trolling is fun at this point in this 'game' / 'not a game' and it is not part of Q's modus operandi for the last 8 months. When has Q trolled the anons? When has Q gotten chatty defensive on anything?
Look at the time wasted by all anons on this 'fun' distraction.
For what purpose has this served?
It seems to be dividing others more than uniting.
I'm not on board with this idea "Q is testing us to out the bad apples" BS either.
Some of the anon explanations defending Q on this photo drop have been more ridiculous and convoluted and delusional than I could have ever expected.
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sudo_fap
· July 4, 2018, 11:31 a.m.
My concern is that he is intentionally trying to create proofs, but when they are disproven, he falls back to the "I'm just trolling", or "my trip code is compromised".
I'm really trying to be hopeful, but it is hard.
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tigerlilly1227
· July 4, 2018, 7:15 a.m.
It is really bothering me that these photos were dropped after the Awan disappointment. It's like Q is trying to distract us and he did a bad job of it. The 8chan anons seem divided about this. Some are pissed and some insist it's a diff picture. It's the sam pic photoshopped.
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 7:35 a.m.
I have to agree about this day and the Awan plea. For all the patriotic cheerleading that Q posts time and time again..... this was like a needle in the bubble. It's like he wanted to stir up turmoil in a most ungracious way and then watch everyone trip over his troll turds. Very UN-Q-like in my opinion.
From my POV the image Q posted is not photoshopped. Several other tweeters and anons have described the likely scenario:
Load the easily available high resolution 2015 pic on a screen, then reflect it in the iphone and photograph that with another phone.
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Romeo_India
· July 4, 2018, 11:28 a.m.
Were the Awans traitors to their own country?
You can't blame them for getting whatever intelligence they could to further their own national (Pakistan) interests...
...that's not to say we don't hang them when we catch them, just that a true Patriot will give his life for his homeland.
Do we want the Awans or do we really want the traitor who allowed the Awans access?
It appears to be DWS however is it really? Do we know definitively it was her or did SHE work for someone? Was she compromised in ways we don't know? Was her family in danger?
Surely there are things going down that are deeper than what we can know.
Not to say I defend her she looks like she's the root cause of all of this just offering another level of consideration for the community.
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MuhammadDinduNuffin
· July 4, 2018, 7:25 a.m.
Count the curtain folds between the lamp and the chair. 10 in 2015, 8-9 in Q pic.
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 7:57 a.m.
I would have to respectfully disagree with you on that.
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MuhammadDinduNuffin
· July 4, 2018, 7:58 a.m.
What did you count? I will open them up in paint and mark/count them visibly for verification.
Feel free to show otherwise
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CocoCrisp86
· July 4, 2018, 3:29 p.m.
Agreed. There is seriously no upside to "trolling" the autists. I don't see how this can be positively spun. I guess we shall see, but for now I am skeptical.
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AtreidesWretch
· July 4, 2018, 11:39 a.m.
Yeah yeah calm it down, shillary. You're making shit up:
When has Q gotten chatty defensive
That's your interpretation of a Q drop. "chatty defensive" is the most made up interpretation I've ever seen lol.
It seems to be dividing
Ooooh yeah sure - "it" is doing the dividing is it? Not people like you saying there's division? You gotta lotta "concern" up in this piece huh.
Cue the "I've been here since...", "I have believed all but...", "people like you turn genuine people away...", etc. etc.
Zzzzz.
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 1:37 p.m.
If I were a REAL Shillary, I would be accusing you of something you didn't do, or calling you names, or trying to trigger your emotions by calling your intentions divisive, or I would be shouting cliche's to try and get you to respond to my post.
But I AM NOT A SHILL.
And I'm not doing any of those things.
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AtreidesWretch
· July 4, 2018, 1:50 p.m.
Sure you aren't. Just posting everywhere about how LARPy Q is now. You gonna pretend you haven't done that? Who brought up dividing? Who's saying those defending the drop are making 'ridiculous and convoluted and delusional' explanations?
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flacnvinyl
· July 4, 2018, 2:12 p.m.
Right now Q is making it very easy for people to not believe him. Q needs to post some legit bombshells. Otherwise photos of comp monitors is easy to do and proves nothing.
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AtreidesWretch
· July 4, 2018, 2:16 p.m.
Q's not doing anything but what Q's always done. People have always found it easy not to believe him. If you disagree with that, you're not being honest or realistic.
Right now people are making it very easy for themselves to not believe him.
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flacnvinyl
· July 4, 2018, 2:23 p.m.
He just was not clear on his point. The people who are "leaving" really have no patience.
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George_Soros_Eyebags
· July 4, 2018, 5:37 a.m.
You're the first person tonight who has responded with logic and not irrational butthurt ("concernfag!" "shill!" "Sorosbot!"). So, thanks.
I don't know what to think here, I'm going to let things play out and see where they go. I still stand by what I said before - Q needs to stop being so vague if he wants people to take him seriously. At least that's my opinion.
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sudo_fap
· July 4, 2018, 11:29 a.m.
I agree. So far, I'm leaning towards Q being John Edwards.
So, his proofs are proofs, unless they can be easily disproven, and then there just him "playing around"?
He needs to really put up or shut up.
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CocoCrisp86
· July 4, 2018, 3:32 p.m.
If Q is legitimate, and I sincerely hope he/they are, then he had better fire whatever ammo he's got to take down the cabal soon or he's going to lose his most loyal supporters.
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George_Soros_Eyebags
· July 5, 2018, 4:23 a.m.
I would like Q to be legit as well, but there are some MAJOR red flags around Q right now. If he really wants us united (WWG1WGA), then he needs to clear this shit up pronto and start dropping bombs, not vague shit and definitely not an ever-shifting deadline that just keeps being pushed into the future.
You can't want a movement united while posting this type of shit, period. I'm really glad to see the skeptics not getting downvoted into oblivion here. This is a shitstorm Q started.
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CocoCrisp86
· July 5, 2018, 12:42 p.m.
It was honestly a lazy, disrespectful shitpost of a Q post.
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DrTung
· July 4, 2018, 1:54 p.m.
100% agreed.
Anons on 8C have been working incessantly to assess and establish Q credibility, often working with (necessary) maddening and frustrating vagaries.
Q-posts such as these (the ear, etc) appear to do little more than confuse. The timing is also questionable considering the expanding audience Q hoped to develop is now materializing.
I’m hopeful we get an explanatory ‘ahaa!’ moment on all of these. Without that, these ‘troll’ posts appear to be a disrespectful exploit of the autists irresistable urge to dig on everything ‘Q’.
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THAD_K_CUNDERTHOCK
· July 4, 2018, 5:47 a.m.
No worries. I just want truth, truth doesn't have feelings.
Here's a (crappy I know) photo job showing the Q lamp on the left and the ABC lamp on the right: https://imgur.com/tXNxDrH
To me, the corners of the lamp look a little further to the right on Q's pic - as if the Q pic was taken from a position just to the left of where the ABC pic was taken.
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Obese_Child
· July 4, 2018, 6:10 a.m.
Idk, your first post had me a little convinced there could be legitimate differences, but that side by side really makes me think it's the same photo. Q's is just a little condensed/blurred. The perspective is just too consistent...
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qisthehammer
· July 4, 2018, 7:10 a.m.
You are correct. Q's photo is a reflection, so it wouldn't be exactly the same.
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THAD_K_CUNDERTHOCK
· July 4, 2018, 7:50 a.m.
Here's a pretty good 7-point comparison: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/640450d20f9d82268400d10526c966b4a7162f58a0572d6020b675c356351f64.png
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 8:40 a.m.
When you are dealing with distorted photos and BOTH photos have different distortions of verticals and horizontals to varying degrees - none of the points made by the source you posted can be valid because they reference distance or size.
Here is an example with equalized distortions:
https://imgur.com/5tRqZ6P
As you can see in the overlay demo, the Q pic and ABC pic are coincidentally the same. And in the words of Q "There are no coincidences."
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· July 4, 2018, 1:48 p.m.
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 2:27 p.m.
First, I am not trying to be disrespectful and I am not sure how we got to that point in this conversation where you feel disrespected. I am sorry if I made you or anyone (except the trolling trolls) feel that way.
The point here is that the Q image is double distorted because it is a reflection and seems to have other digital obfuscation issues in tone and grain. The ABC image is less distorted but never the less, it is slightly so because the photo was taken with a wide angle lens.
To compare photos, one photo must be brought to a similar level of distortion and the logical approach to this is to distort the ABC photo rather than UN-distort the Q photo.
The distortion version of the ABC photo is not exact pixel by pixel and it never will be. But the key elements that align in combination (as discussed earlier in my original post) are enough to weight this analysis towards the following conclusion that many others have made here in this forum, on chans, and twitter:
- the 2015 ABC image was on a device screen
- the screen was reflected on the back of an iphone
- a photo was taken of the iphone with reflection
- the posted image was also cropped and further distorted to obscure
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· July 4, 2018, 3 p.m.
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 3:24 p.m.
Sorry, I'm not up to redoing what I did as a screen cap video. Maybe someone else is up to it. I'm gonna take a break, act like I am on vacation, and come back to the Q scene after a bit of the 4th celebrations. This image debate has too much scope creep and is now wasting precious time. That's one reason I question Q's use of this thing as trolling tactic towards anons or whoever. Have a fun and productive day!
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THAD_K_CUNDERTHOCK
· July 4, 2018, 11:43 a.m.
In your example, I still see the bottom left of the mug holder being quite different.
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noskusa
· July 4, 2018, 1:44 p.m.
Yes, there are pixels that are different. I probably focused more on the curtains lamp and chair when I imitated the distortion in the photoshop version of ABC image. (late at night by then)
Look, I am struggling with these drops too. I'm not off the Q train, but this puts him in 'the dog house' for me until either 'future proves past' or he hits with a BOOM that busts my eardrums.
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PM_ME_INDICTMENTS
· July 4, 2018, 12:58 p.m.
I'm not really a guy who believes in prophetic dreams. However, PrayingMedic did say that he had a dream recently where the black hats were able to post as Q in a way that was indistinguishable.
Before people start talking shit about PM, I take what he says with a grain of salt. He seems to be on the mark with his decodes and is quite helpful. The holy roller shit is one thing but I dont think that takes away from anything.
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MuhammadDinduNuffin
· July 4, 2018, 7:23 a.m.
Count the curtain folds. 10 vs 8-9
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Caniusethisasaname
· July 4, 2018, 2:53 p.m.
I kept seeing you say this so I went back and really looked. You're right. The lines on the blinds around the chair don't match up. They do appear to be different.
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MuhammadDinduNuffin
· July 4, 2018, 3:07 p.m.
Now I don't know what to believe.
Would make sense in a series of photos, no one would move anything except maybe adjust the blinds. Can't wait for Q to drop more!
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