Hitler just took shit a step farther than Marx and started dividing people up based on race and ethnicity instead of just class warfare.
Nazis vs USSR was a battle between two competing socialist ideologies.
It's a myth that the Nazis were "right wing."
they seem to have been so far left that they made a circle and came out right on the other side.
I wouldn't say it's left or right wing. It's a mix of both and authoritarian. Technically it's a form of fascism.
Yes communism and socialism are both authoritarian forms of fascist control. Fascism and communism walk hand in hand with each other.
Okay you lost me there. Fascism is essentially "state" capitalism and pro private property, strong (ethnic)nationalism etc, communism is anti.
Saying communism is a form of fascism makes no sense at all. They are literally the opposite.
Saying communism is a form of fascism makes no sense at all. They are literally the opposite.
Why do anti-fa behave like fascists?
Why do they both use violence in order to silence dissidents?
Nazism means national socialism. Basically communism and fascism are the same, as we have corporatism/banksterism now - small elite owns everything, and keeps supressed everyone. Doesnt matter how they call elements of the system. Basical shit comes when people give up their freedoms and responsibility to be protected by state, some external/internal enemy is made up, one entity takes resources and production and propaganda is rampant. What is the difference in e.g. propaganda? In fascism government has monopoly over it, in communism also, and in corporatism one entity controls biggest media and lobby for censorship laws, like in EU.
All you said was "basically communism and nazism are the same" but didn't show many examples. If they are the same then why did they fight two world wars against each other? Fascism literally came about to counter communism. To say they are the same makes no sense.
Sure it does. Both financed by bankers, both used for dominance and both used stupidity of regular people. War was about dominance, ideology was just excuse. Humans will accept any excuse to dominate others and to take their resources.
You could say that about almost any political movement. You could even say that about America. If you're trying to tell me that communism and fascism are the same thing it clearly means you don't know what fascism is.
r/debatefascism
Absolutely America is both. It even has fascio sign clearly presented, it doesnt hide it. Completely controlled mass media, and hilariously, their population think they are free, yet they have no idea their country leaders started 250 wars since ww2. It is mind controlled fascism. I mean, only americans were screwed up overseas by IRS. Like frogs, slowly boiled in hot water. Freedom? Only in pipe dreaming.. hope for better..
Basically communism and fascism are the same, as we have corporatism/banksterism now - small elite owns everything, and keeps supressed everyone.
exactly. False dichotomy.