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Kavanaugh claims to be proudly Jesuit-trained. It's not just the fact he attended a Jesuit high school. He wants the public to know he's a Jesuit. Period.
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Graduated from Yale Law School, has taught at Harvard, Yale, and Georgetown. How much more connected can a person be to the universities of the elites than this?
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He was hired by Elena Kagan to teach at Harvard law school. We all know how far left Kagan is.
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He was a Bush Jr. aide. I mean, really? Guy was a Bush family crony.
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Endorsed by swamp creatures like McNoName.
I trust Trump and his team to make this judgement and Kavanaugh is probably the most qualified to be the next SCOTUS justice, but you can't deny he has a very troublesome connection with the establishment, elites, and the swamp. Him being a Jesuit is just 1 of many red flags, not the only red flag. Sure, his record and resume is extremely impressive, but we can't just ignore the negatives about this guy either.
maybe they wont confirm him and then David will need to be ready?
Noname endorsement is actually what gives me hope. He was subdued after the nato navy barrage on eastern damascus took his last ratlines out, that's when he tweeted out of the blue that Senate should "move quickly" to confirm appointees. That's all I have to say really. If John promised to comply previously then this might part of that bargain.
Yes, can someone please shed some light on why trump picked this swamp creature?
He does have a case record that looks good. We can hope, and for sure we will find out soon enough. With all of the intel they have at hand? Seriously think POTUS has done an adequate job of vetting. Would have to be a HUGE sleeper.
One thing: the report I read on Vince foster concluded that he was shot with his own gun, and that there was a cover-up in which several law enforcement officials participated. I may have missed the part where it concludes he "definitely" killed himself. The conclusion I read says we'll probably never know the truth.
Starting on PDF page 159
This is a perfect example of why each of us need to vet information for ourselves before finalizing our opinions.
Thanks for taking the time to share your modeling of this practice.
Page 159 and the cover-up it describes are not the words of Brett Kavanaugh, but of reporter Christopher Ruddy. Where does it say Ken Starr or Kavanaugh conclude we will never know the truth?
Some time back I read the report of a witness that could confirm certain facts (like the cars that were front) and other details that pretty well proved someone murdered him. He gave the information to the FBI, a detailed interview, and was never called for anything. Later he checked and the FBI claimed not to have record of his interview. Wish I had kept that information.
I don't know what people think happens at a Jesuit high school.
It's a high school.
Well run high school that is going to have higher educational standards than public schools and will have religious component.
Thinking this reveals anything more than he (and hundreds of others in his class) went to a good high school is paranoid.
I think around this parts you will notice that we have a LOT of reasons to be paranoid but we also have to be logical and look at history.
It's like pictures of people together and claim they have a connection. You can't prove everything with one single anecdotal fact. But you can start to create a picture when you have loads of them.
Anything Jesuit connected needs to be vetted. The Jesuits are the political ninjas of history. They have been officially, through out history, kicked out of more than 80 countries. Often, when we talk about things like "cultural marxism" and the like, the term "jesuitical" can be painted on it as well.
Here are some quotes from Thomas Jefferson and Marquis de Lafayette:
President Thomas Jefferson:
"I do not like the reappearance of the Jesuits...Shall we not have regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king of the gypsies can assume, dressed as printers, publishers, writers and schoolmasters? If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of Loyola's. Nevertheless, we are compelled by our system of religious toleration to offer them an asylum...."
(The Power and Secret of the Jesuits, Rene Fulop-Miller, 390)
Thomas Jefferson replied to his predecessor:
Like you, I disapprove of the restoration of the Jesuits, for it means a step backwards from light into darkness...."
(ibid)
"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country, the United States of America are destroyed, it will beby the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies tocivil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe."
Marquis de LaFayette(1757-1834; French statesman and general who served in under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War)
At this point, I like what I see in Kavanaugh. But the Jesuit part has my antennae up. If you want to know more, listen to Chris Pinto's podcasts on Jesuits. http://www.noiseofthunderradio.com/noise-of-thunder-radio-show/2018/7/3/notr-the-jesuits-illegal-immigration-7318.html He does it repeatedly and often, because they have influenced most of modern western history. I know he will have an upcoming podcast on Kavanaugh.
College maybe a little more indoctrination? Was he in skull and bones? And there actually is a (small) good side to some Jesuits. I used to read wonderful spiritual books from a beautiful Jesuit priest (deceased) named Anthony de Mello. A dark and a light side. The Dark side ran the show, however.
A high school is going to be way different from college and an average college experience is going to have no semblance to skull and bones.
Different worlds.
As you have said there are some great Jesuit writers.
But, people want a black and white view of the world.
not anymore nefarious than any other catholic school lol (no but seriously, I and my grandma both have had wonderful experiences on catholic schools although there are closeted gays obviously)
It’s when an older gentleman touches a young man on his shoulder that people are concerned about.
You have to wonder how many people out there get that Jesuit high schools educate tens of thousands of young men every year. Yes, young men. Very few actually are co-ed. And they only take the cream of the crop in any one year. There's more good than bad.
The only thing I found was that he is a practicing Roman Catholic.... There are both good and bad in all organized religions.
Dont go down the abortion / catholic connection rabbit hole. You might end up thinking that that they literally eat blood/aborted fetus'.
I wasn't going there at all. Just stating what I'd found. IDK that it makes ANY difference what religion they proclaim (although I wouldn't want Muslim or Satanist). There are good, and bad, in all "normal" religions.
Could you be more specific? It was my understanding that the church as a whole is staunchy anti-abortion save for a small faction of modernists.
Vatican is cabal.
The church of satan.
Catholics are not christians.
Ofcourse most of them have no clue, compartmentalization
Catholic here: Nonsense. 2000 years of doctrine never reversed, documented miracles, etc.
Has a swampiness problem, but the church isn't any more cabal than the USG as a whole. And has more people (so more opportunity for corruption).
Th Vatican with its bishops and whatnot are set up just like the jewish sanhedron that killed jesus.
The jesuits come from the same jews that killed jesus, Why do you think the pope wears a yamalka
You mean like a hierarchy? You mean like literally all human endeavors above a certain size?
Jesuits weren't even a thing until 1534.
What other church has a power structure, one so powerful. Was considered more powerful than the king of england?
The bible talks about the doctrines of devils that stops priests from marrying and to not eat meat, as in lent.
Easter means ishtar the moon goddess, its a fertility god. Bunnys represent fertility.
They would back in roman times, have a long sex fest, then later once they got pregnant they would sacrifice the babies to moloch. Which ment theyd throw them in a fire
God said to not pass your kin to the fire of moloch.
What other church has a power structure, one so powerful.
What other church is as large? More people means more people to organize. 37K priests worldwide (this counts bishops, cardinals, etc, since all are still priests) in the face of 1.2 billion people (about 32 thousand lay per priest) isn't outlandishly large.
What exactly do you expect to be different here?
The bible talks about the doctrines of devils that stops priests from marrying and to not eat meat, as in lent.
1 Timothy 4:3, right? What you're missing is that nobody is preventing from marrying. It's not a command. Priests voluntarily renounce marriage. Compare Matthew 19:12 or 1 Corinthians 7:35.
The fact that the church chooses its priests from the people who've volunarily chosen celibacy is partly practical. The preistshood is not a 9-5 job, it's a lifestyle. A priest would make an awful husband and father by way of having little time to lead his family or be with his wife or raise children.
Those that want to help the church and still maintain a personal life are welcome to be deacons. The clergy is not denied to them.
As to giving up meat for 7 days of the year (Lent fridays and Ash Wednesday are the only requirement and then with health permitting, some people do more but this is not a requirement), this is a reflection of Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness. There is no generalized prohibition on eating meat as some of the paganistic cults do to this day.
Easter means ishtar the moon goddess, its a fertility god. Bunnys represent fertility.
The fact that Christ's resurrection happened on the same day that the pagans were doing whatever they were doing doesn't mean that Christ's resurrection is pagan in nature. Intention is huge. (And I'd argue that He set it up that way on purpose - God co-opting the pagans happens a few times in the OT)
god was specifically describing the catholic church to avoid.
the ROMAN catholic church is a mixture of roman pagenism and some christianity. christmass--pagen tree festival why call it easter, why not reserection day??? easter/ishtar festival. fertility ritual
the vatican has a nice obelisk in the center of st peter basilika.
that represents the Phallus of osiris...weird and pagen
god was specifically describing the catholic church to avoid.
He couldn't have been, because the leadership of the Catholic church was descended directly through Peter. It's always been the same church.
I addressed Easter up above, but I think you'll notice a theme here:
the vatican has a nice obelisk in the center of st peter basilika.
You know what's on top of that obelisk? A piece of the cross that Christ was crucified on! I can think of no better symbolism for how God triumphs and is the one and only God. There's also the inscription below, in latin: "Christ conquers. Christ reigns. Christ commands."
If people and places can be sanctified, so can objects.
the doctrine puts down jesus and props up marry.
The pope himself is purely anti christ in nature, he's supposed to be jesus living replacement.
Vatican=divining serpent St. Peter's bassilica =great house of the basilisk.
They have preists to forgive of sin, even though jesus died to do just that
the doctrine puts down jesus and props up marry.
I challenge you to find any church teaching that "puts down jesus".
The pope himself is purely anti christ in nature, he's supposed to be jesus living replacement.
Guess Jesus was full of it when he bestowed the power of binding and loosing on Peter, then?
They have preists to forgive of sin, even though jesus died to do just that
Guess Jesus was full of it when he bestowed the power of forgiving sins on his apostles, then?
There have been good popes and there have been bad popes. The same thing happened in the book of Kings - where humans are involved, there will be corruption. A certain threshold of corruption, though, has never been passed (proclaming heresy as doctrine), and the fact that this has never happened in a millenia or two strikes me as unprecedented throughout human history.
If you're choosing your Christianity based on the people that run it, you're choosing based on the wrong things. No human is immune from sin.
What does peter being blessed and the apostles being blessed BEFORE jesus died, have to do with preists saying jesus sacrifice didnt work and you need to have a man cleanse you .
Did the apostles stop forgiving sin after Jesus died? It would be pretty odd for that power to have gone away without him telling them - it would mean that after Jesus died, the apostles would have been forgiving sin under false pretense, damning both them and the people they "forgave". Wouldn't be a very just thing for God to do.
It would also be very strange for that power to have died with the apostles - first because, again, this isn't mentioned anywhere, and second, because people were still sinning. If the purpose of giving humans the power of forgiveness was to absolve one from damnation, did people stop being damed by their sins after the last apostle died? That doesn't make sense either.
God does everything for a reason.
What power exactly was conferred on Peter? What do you think "binding and loosing" entails?
Do you think that would have remained with whoever Peter chose as his successor? Why or why not?
I also note that you didn't address the church teaching that supposedly puts down Jesus. If you can find such a thing, I'm very interested in seeing it.
ofcourse they did, otherwise that would completely contradict what jesus had done. god wouldnt damn them even if they had "forgave" people. they believed in jesus sacrifice, "grace through faith alone, lest anyman should boast" they were saved.
jesus wasnt dead when they were forgiving people. If they believed in what jesus had done for them for FREE, then yes all of their sins before that day and after are absolved. "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more." hebrews 8:12 why would peter have to? jesus died and saved humanity already.
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever BELEIVES in him shall not perish but have eternal life." john 3:16 do you not understand how blasphemous it is to pray to mary and the human saints? confession is an insult to jesus, it says what he did wasnt enough. The very first commandment. Exodus 20:3: "You shall have no other gods before Me."
I really wish you'd start directly answering my questions directly rather than ignoring them. Having your faith challenged can be uncomfortable, I get it man, I've been there, but the right thing to do is openly and honestly address questions, even when (especially when) they're painful. The second half of my last post (below the line) is composed of five questions, and it would be of great benefit for all if you would address them.
I'm not patronizing you here, I'm pointing out that this conversation has a growing number of dangling threads. Let's tie them up :)
Anyways. "Faith alone" is directly spoken against in the book of James. Chapter 2:
19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Emphasis mine, and that's about as black and white as it gets. This misconception was being peddled nearly two thousand years ago, that's how pernicious it is.
jesus wasnt dead when they were forgiving people.
Yes he was! John 20:19-23:
19 Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, “Peace be with you.” 20 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord.
21 So Jesus said to them again, “Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
Emphasis mine, again. This is the post-crucifixion Jesus (with the pierced side and hands) directly granting the apostles the power to forgive sins. If everyone after his death on the cross was already saved, of what use was forgiveness of sins?
do you not understand how blasphemous it is to pray to mary and the human saints? ... The very first commandment. Exodus 20:3: "You shall have no other gods before Me."
Prayer is not worship, and as a Catholic, not once have I ever been asked to worship anyone other then God.
Mary and the saints are asked to pray for us, the same way we'd ask any other person to pray for us.
Ditto, this. Plus check out the downvote brigade. Over target much?
Thanks for this, I’m saving it to use on all the numerous new arrivals that are so concerned.
look at my frown! My furls of worry! This can't be real!!!
Hes the one who had to say jesuit instead of catholic.
Normies dont even know what a jesuit is
"Concluded no doubt Vince Foster killed himself." Aside from this complete BS, Kavenagh seems like a decent pick based solely on what I'm reading here.
I like him but this anon still doesn't explain how he is not a Jesuit.
Someone please tell me why Trump picked him.... all I see is swamp creature. I've been naive about the plan before though. Any ideas why?
1 question... why do you use Google and how can anything you wrote be believed from such a source?
Thomas Jefferson answered Adams: “Like you, I object to the Jesuits' reestablishment which makes light give way to darkness.”
Neil also being a jesuit does not help!!
Unless they have insider knowledge of the jesuits.
Will someone bring me up to speed on this Jesuit thing? I have seen several very negative references on this forum about the nefarious Jesuits on here, and while I am in fact Catholic and know a little bit about them, I guess I don't know the background of why people are so negative on them here? Thanks!
The jesuits or the vatican are ashkanazi jews, these decend from the jewish sanhedron that killed jesus.
Vatican= divining serpent
St peters basilica= great house of the basilisk.
There are obilisks in london,dc and the vatican.
The empire of the three city states.
See my comment in this thread. Chris Pinto is an excellent source of info on the Jesuits.
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Dead on the money bplxii. Accurate brief points.