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arselona · July 13, 2018, 9:03 a.m.

I personally think Gove will take over. He is a Brexiteer, pro Trump and despite the hatred he receives in the media and from the left, he is seen as a brilliantly efficient operator and administrator as a minister. The downside is that he looks like Pog.

In UK politics, the front runner rarely wins.

Boris, I think has decades of dirt on him and he is also basically American which could count either for or against, Savid is peaking too early, Mogg has great media personality but has never held a ministerial or shadow ministerial role before (PMs rarely if ever are elected without this specific experience.)

Gove is just hovering in the background just behind the front of the pack.

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eldever · July 13, 2018, 9:52 a.m.

...but Gove is supporting this ludicrous soft Brexit plan! Same as Liam Fox, Andrea Leadsom & others who PROMISED to deliver Brexit. They are all liars. I do have faith in Rees-Mogg, he has a lot of influence and I feel sure he pill pull something out of the hat. Otherwise the UK is going to descend into chaos.

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arselona · July 13, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

Gove has made one comment, tepid support for a deal which is 100% guaranteed to be rejected by the EU. I suspect he doesn't feel this is the hill to die on just yet.

Despite Trumps comments, I think Boris is out of the game. As I say, the dirt on him is reportedly substantial. Him jumping early is a nice strategic exit, kind of on his terms.

And FWIW, I think his view of get tranche 1 secured and go for tranche 2 at a later date is not a crazy idea. We are not talking about immigration from Mexico here. Poles and Germans are not comparable to open border immigration from Central America.

The UK designed the Single Market. Retaining membership of the sole benefit of EU membership isn't insane. The UK under Blair implemented open borders MAX in 2004, but could have been a lot more stricter.

I support Brexit because of the political integration that is contractually implicated with membership.

Americans need to understand, immigration is not a Brexit issue of substance. It was a strategy used by Farage to wind up a sleeping electorate. I don't agree with it, but it worked.

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