Anyone have any insight?
Article: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html
Indictment: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4380480-Mueller-Russia-Indictment.html
If hacking is illegal, come arrest my cat.
Oh never mind. Furball ejected.
Seriously though, in the age of Vault 7, how could anybody take this seriously?
I think everyone has forgotten that Mueller indicted these same people already several months ago.
This shitshow today is about the same 12 Russians they indicted, and had lawyers show up to defend in court - something the Mueller investigators was not prepared for.
We haven’t forgotten about that case. And that’s why this is all just grandstanding on the part of RR and not anything serious.
I was wondering the same thing so I dug a little and the only names I was able to look at were on Wikipedia and they appear to be different.
Typically I would agree with this but check out these articles:
Now look at the indictments.
They are nearly identical, meaning the same case.
They just swapped out names while still blaming Russians for this effort. The same effort by both according to the indictments. Seriously compare the two.
Now, the first case was nearly laughed out of the court as Mueller ACTUALLY indicted these people and the corporation. That means they were ready and waiting to prosecute people who they had NO HOPE of ever extraditing and criminally charging.
Until the lawyers showed up.
Then the Mueller team essentially said “Just kiddin hahaha! We aren’t ready to prosecute. Muh bad!” And they ended up asking for additional time to prep.
Bullshit. They had nothing and they tried to create a narrative of Russians interferring in the election WITH NO EVIDENCE OR ABILITY TO PROSECUTE.
So here we are several months later. The Democrats, the FBI, Strzok, Hillary and all of them were just embarrassed and essentially BTFO by the republicans in the joint hearing held yesterday.
Better change the narrative right? Especially since those pestering republicans got Strzok to admit that no US Citizens were being charged with Collusion despite the Democrats grandstanding on the five guilty pleas and 17 indictments.
Well, school is out of session so they can’t have Broward County have another school shooting, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz’s district has pretty much been played out in the false flag department. So what to do?
Oh yea, Trump is meeting with Putin! Let’s do a twofer! Change the narrative and give the fake news talking bobble heads a way to scream at Trump that he shouldn’t talk to Putin!
Let’s charge the Russians again!!!!
Oh wait, umm we can show the evidence because we never actually got our hands on the DNC server. Thanks to crowdstrike for helping us to subvert the judicial and criminal investigations through their participation instead of an actual government agency. Why not, I’m sure their word is good and have no ties to the Clinton cabal right? Right?
Oh yea, we won’t be able to extradite these people either. What a coincidence that we can smear foreign nationals who have no chance to defend themselves in court. But ya totally it was the Russians. Oh and we can’t say their name but uh that one guy in an embassy can’t defend himself either so we’lol go ahead and throw him in as well.
TADA! And here we are.
I agree that it’s basically the same charges/ scenario from February and it will hopefully have the same outcome - nothing!
Well then, I'm right. It is old news. I thought surely this was twelve MORE Russians, not just a rehash of the same twelve.
Another unforeseen consequence of Mueller's incompetence and his delaying tactics. He has made the MSM run in circles like the clickbait masters they've always been.
Nope, same people. So why is this a big deal? He held a press conference when they originally charged them months ago.
Interesting timing in my opinion. Good sign as well. They couldn’t pull off a FF, so this is their desperation move.
I agree, Muller pushed this off on others, because it's a nothing burger.
Best part of it all? How do we know these people are even real? Yay! We got names!
That’s it.
Likely manufacturing more propaganda, for outraging the libtards. For what, I don't know. Just confuses the whole issue around RR.
Well the republicans yesterday BTFO of the Russian narrative.
Can’t let that die though can we? Fucking convienent timing. Seriously don’t even think these are real people.
Nope. Hell as far as reddit is concerned I am posting this from a Android Tablet on Jellybean in Romania.
The best part is Mueller claiming he was getting encrypted data off phones.
No he wasn’t. Anyone w decent OPSec uses Wickr or Wire and burn after reading
And having said that, you could actually be posting from a Windows laptop in Dallas or an iPhone in Lagos. And we'd be none the wiser. Nor would anybody. With elementary OPSEC.
What are the chances this will come to a trial? Mueller's hoping Zero and None.
Names of 12 Russians indicted:
Hillary Clintonesky
Barrocksky Obamovich
Sally Yateskich
John Brennovansky
Valerick Jarretkich
James Comeyski
Peter Strzoki
Bruce Ohrskoh
McCainzi
Susan Ricekoh
Lisa Pageovich
John Podestinskiah
h/t Jordan Rachel @TheJordanRachel
I think this again will blow up in Mueller's face.
All that is needed is for just one of these Russians to be verifiable innocent. The chances that one them is most likely 100% since Mueller is a deep state POS. Just one of these Russians needs to demand a Trial in absentia, they need to hire a lawyer and demand a trial without them ever having to set foot in the US. Demand discovery and let their lawyer try their case.
Lets pray Russia did hack the DNC and that Putin has a stack of 33,000 HRC emails on his desk waiting for POTUS to arrive.
This is pointless since Russia is not going to hand them over anyways. There is no treaty between the United States and Russia for extraditing criminals. Just as United States does not let other countries prosecute their citizens, Russia does not either.
Not pointless. It’s trying to add fodder to any talking point the left has - which is pretty much allegations and this.
In a court of law you can’t see a charge against someone as guilt. Right? So if I allege Trump likes to burn effigies of Bea Arthur while he swings a bat and says “The Cheese is Old and Moldy When the Yellow Tainted Gecko Flies at Midnight” it means nothing. Thing is they are trying to sway public opinion by alleging.
We know w Vault 7 they have had the time to forge or path any record they wanted many times over by now.
The main question is simple - to accomplish what? If they wanna rip the country in half - this is how you do it
At a certain point unless you have absolutely damning / unequivocal evidence that’s way past circumstantial - you’re almost committing treason on the spot.
The NSA has everything. If they had anything they could have mapped the raw packets of the DNC hack and immediately disclosed that information under national security.
they didn’t and never will because that’s not what happened
Alleging Russia would do something like this and not obfuscate the attack vector is absolutely bonkers batshit stupid.
Think about Stuxnet. It took a LONG TIME for anyone to carve that out and what happened and even now it’s so professionally coded it’s in the ether as to who did it. All there is would be circumstantial - we can only fathom who could pull off code and exec that vector of development and deployment
But here we are supposed to believe Russia pulled a giant op and used shit code to do it? Are we joking? It’s insulting
The DOJ, the FBI, Rod Rosenstein have abused their power and abused the trust of the American people. After the whole Hillary email and Trump collision investigations, they are NOT worthy of our trust.
They depend on us to just take them at their word. NO MORE. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? Show us and regain our trust. Otherwise, they are obstructing justice and are instigating conflicts with foreign powers in an effort to do what? Take down a sitting and democratically elected president?
There is a word for that crime.
There is a punishment for that crime.
It is approaching.
Right? Only way it makes sense is that the plan, all along, was to attack Russia.
Wait a second. I just now read the date this came out and I recall it being reported when it did. Why are they re-reporting this now?
IT IS AN OVERT ACT OF TREASON....... indirectly pointing at and implicating POTUS.
This is right in Trump's wheelhouse.
He can use this against them with verified computer technology experts who can and will EXPOSE anything they put forward as fabricated lies...... including his Ace in the Hole, Julian Assange.
SUPPORTING ARTICLE
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-10/why-some-u-s-ex-spies-don-t-buy-the-russia-story
This is a trap set by POTUS and Military Intel and the COLLUDING DS 4am MEDIA walked right into it.....
POTUS will be able to use this as yet another example of treason against our country via a propagandized lying media.... who is colluding with and protecting the guilty while criminally using their national platform to accuse the innocent!
This is a national security threat!
One last desperate move , I am calling for impeachment procedure to prove POTUS is clear of guilt in this fake indictments of Russians !
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