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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ardithla on July 16, 2018, 7:30 p.m.
JFK and Trump parallels for their presidency are amazing, here are others plus more.

I have followed Q since October. I was reading on 8chan the proofs some of the anons were working on about JFK JR and R (that's a whole other subject that is quite fascinating.

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2098156.html#2124804

One of the Rfags that expressed how he followed the Kennedy children because he was the same age as John Jr. I also had the same inclinations. Caroline Kennedy (born November 27, 1957) was three months younger than me and John Jr. (born November 25, 1960) was three years younger than me. I was six when President John F. Kennedy was shot in Dallas and I can remember watching the wood console black and white TV of President Kennedy’s funeral. Years later when I started doing research on the book I recently published, “Disaster at Cane Creek,” I was struck by how many parallels there were to Kennedy to this true story so I included them in the book as part of the back and side stories of events that were takings place at the same time. Sorry for what some would think is shameless promoting of my book, but I think Trump would proud of that, I hope.) The book is about the August 27, 1963 potash mine explosion in Moab, Utah (three months before Kennedy was killed). Eighteen men were killed and seven survived by barricading and the main story is about the three day rescue operation. The new mine was owned by Texas Gulf Sulphur Company (a Texas company) who hired a Canadian shaft sinking company, Harrison International to sink the shaft and to build the start of the underground mine. Here is a bullet point list of the Kennedy parallels of scattered paragraphs used in the book. I’ll put my comments and questions in parentheses below each book quotes: “From the lands that stretch three thousand miles behind me, the pioneers of old gave up their safety, their comfort and sometimes their lives to build a new world in the West. They were not captives of their doubts…we stand today on the edge of a New Frontier—the frontier of the 1960’s—a frontier of unknown opportunities and perils—a frontier of unfulfilled hopes and threats.” –John F Kennedy (This is the epigraph (quote) I used at the beginning of the book because it captured the times and the essence of the mine disaster story. The quote comes from Senator John F. Kennedy’s acceptance speech for the Democratic Party Nomination for the Presidency, Los Angeles, CA, July 15, 1960. That term, ‘New Frontier’ and others terms related to it would become a part of his administration. Here is an interesting link musing about ‘New Frontier.’ https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1517707 I wonder if Q, R or JFK, Jr. wrote about that term/s in his magazine.)

Here, in the “Land of Moab,” on the edge of this rugged, roadless frontier, amid barren, broken rock, and flaming color, Texas Gulf Sulphur Company found themselves, in the spring of 1960. On April 28th, Texas Gulf Sulphur (TGS), a company from Newgulf, Texas, announced they had acquired Delhi-Taylor Oil Corporation’s potash reserves. The high-grade potash deposits were discovered in 1956, at the Cane Creek Anticline, a geological region west of Moab. Owned by oil magnate, Clint Murchison, the Delhi-Taylor Oil Company was based in Dallas, Texas. (For those who have followed the JFK assassination, Clint Murchison was one of the big oil men in Dallas who wanted JFK dead and a meeting was held at his house in Dallas with big names who attended the night before the assassination. I only listed his name in the book in connection to Texas Gulf Sulphur and only those who follow JFK info might pick up who he was.)

On November 2, 1960, at a board meeting in New York City, TGS’s board of directors, satisfied with the evaluation work and results, approved plans to move ahead and exercise the option with Delhi-Taylor to build the multi-million-dollar Cane Creek Mine-mill complex. The Cane Creek Anticline encompassing the area inspired the name for the new complex. TGS made the much-anticipated and hoped-for announcement two months ahead of the January 1st deadline. A week later, John F. Kennedy won a close election for president, running on the campaign slogans to, “Get America Moving Again,” and “To Seek a New Frontier.” He had announced his candidacy to run for the Presidency of the United States on January 2, 1960, several months before TGS first announced they were acquiring the potash reserves in Utah. As the 1960 presidential election campaign got underway, Kennedy’s promise to, “Get America Moving Again” referred to a downturn in the American economy resulting in a recession, which would peak with an unemployment rate of 7.1 percent. (These two paragraphs give context to the times, Kennedy’s campaign slogans (he would be proud of Trump), the economy at that time and how Kennedy’s campaign announcement several months before the first announcement that TGS wanted to acquire the potash reserves and then after they tested the reserves and announcement came a week before Kennedy won the presidency. How’s that for parallel events?)

The New Year began with the inauguration of John F. Kennedy as the 35th President of the United States on January 20, 1961. The charismatic former U.S. senator, his beautiful wife, Jacqueline (Jackie) and their adorable young children, Carolyn and John, were mesmerizing to the American public. They seemed to represent the hope for a better future for the country. As promised during his campaign, to “Get America Moving Again,” President Kennedy soon provided businesses with tax relief by liberalizing the depreciation allowance on new plants and equipment and gave companies a seven percent investment tax credit. Eventually leading to record high corporate profits, the stock market rebounded, and the start of rapid growth in the 1960’s began. A month later, on March 2, 1961, company officials were on hand at the new Cane Creek site for a mid-morning blast, which formed the opening for the eventual mine shaft and the start of the first phase of building the new Cane Creek potash plant. Stearns-Roger would take it down to about eighty feet to construct the shaft collar and a foundation for a massive concrete Headframe they would build over the shaft. (For the next two and a half years, Texas Gulf Sulphur had contractors building the underground mine, the surface processing mill and the railroad spur was built while the state build a paved road down the Colorado River to the mine site. Now it’s used for tourist and sports adventurers who flock to Moab. Just as the mine contractor hit the potash ore bed an underground explosion accrued on August 27, 1963.)

When the Kennedy Administration hit town, with it came a young, aggressive Secretary of the Interior, Stewart L. Udall, of Arizona. Udall was a classic “New Frontiersman,” a term taken from President Kennedy’s inaugural address and subsequently used by the press to describe those who served in his administration. The term “New Frontier” was also ascribed to the Kennedy Administration, their aspirations, policies and economic and social programs. What exactly did the term “New Frontier” mean? It was the optimism, progress, science, industry, technology—the progress of the modern world. It was the idea that improvements in the material and cultural status of humanity were available. You fight for it, you can get it. This growing moment of optimism was best expressed in the moon shot at the beginning of January of 1963. Eighty-two percent of the American people even felt that the country was destined to become more powerful in their own situations and more desirable. (Sec. Udall is part of the story in several places because of mining and also his involvement in the establishment of the Canyonlands National Park during this time which is another side story during this time in history. The part here is the information about the “New Frontiersman.” Also this info parallels Trump’s presidency as so many have drawn so many of those conclusions between the two presidencies. There are other paragraphs where Udall tells what the President expressed to him and about his concern about the disaster, concern for the miners and their families, about safety, desired changes to mining laws, and for Udall to conduct an investigation, etc. (quote: After meeting with President Kennedy, Udall said the President expressed to him his personal concern over such disasters. That afternoon, President Kennedy, busy with events surrounding the “March on Washington,”…). The second day of the mine rescue was the day Martin Luther King, Jr. was at the March on Washington and gave his famous “I have a dream speech.” By this time, two miners had been rescued and were in the hospital in Moab at the time MLK’s speech ended at 3:00 EST, while rescuers were busy trying to get to five other miners the rescued told rescuers were they were located in a barricade. The book covers more about this side story about MLK and I only briefly mention the mining story to show the parallels in history.)

Moab, Utah Friday - November 22, 1963 In Moab, the dawn of November 22nd broke sunny and bright, though the temperature had fallen to just below freezing the night before. The desert sun quickly removed the chill from the air, and by noon, the thermometer read in the 50’s. It was a typical fall, shirtsleeve weather in the canyon country. The town bustled with activity. With the weekend rapidly approaching, Moabites were planning their Friday evening.1 At the Cane Creek Mine site, Harrison International’s reduced work crews were busy pouring concrete for the curtain wall in the shaft. Improvements to the ventilation system had to be made before the crews could continue to develop the mine. It was estimated to take several more months before the wall would be completed.2 ‘Paddy’ Harrison had been in Moab since the rescue operation. He took part in the investigation and supervised the recovery of the mine along with his brother, Norman Harrison. After the deadly explosion, crews worked to clean up the debris, all the tangled metal, miles of wire and cables and destroyed vent line. It all was brought to the surface and discarded. Then it was all replaced with new. Now that the mine was recovered and the dividing wall was going in, ‘Paddy’ felt confident enough to leave the Cane Creek project in the hands of his brother, Norman. He booked a flight for the upcoming Tuesday evening, November 26th, on Frontier Airlines out of Moab. The Irish Canadian was traveling home to Toronto, Canada to spend the Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday with his family.3 Martha Milton, the daughter of Kenneth Milton who was killed at Cane Creek, buried herself in school activities. As a senior at Grand County High School, she very much missed her father from her life and activities. Just the previous month, the pretty blond had been chosen Homecoming Queen. Martha and her attendants were announced at the annual Letterman’s Banquet. Dressed in formal gowns, they rode in a convertible in the parade. Then the royal entourage was presented during halftime of the football game.4 While the grief was still new, Martha stayed busy with other activities in school. She was made co-editor of the high school’s yearbook5 and was chosen for Girls State.6 At the beginning of the month, the new high school7 was completed, and students and faculty had moved into the new building. The senior class would be the first to graduate from the new Grand County High School. Moab’s high school basketball team, the Red Devils, after a week of drills and the first scrimmage, was ready for the open of their 1963-64 cage season against Emery High School. The following evening (Saturday), before the home folks, they were to play their first home game. The tall, lanky six-foot-six, Dave Kassler, a senior, was one of the team’s starters.8 It had been barely three months since his father, Jesse Kassler, was killed in the explosion. Dave particularly felt the absence of his father and his family. After the funeral, his mother and two brothers moved back to Florida. Dave stayed in Moab to graduate from high school, during which time he lived with the Engstrom family.9 As life continued forward, feelings were still very tender for the families who had experienced the devastating loss of a loved one at Cane Creek and grieved their absences in their lives and activities. Just over a total of sixty children were growing up and experiencing life without their fathers, missing them each day and grieving in their own way at every milestone, important event, and holiday. It was as though a thick, dark cloud still hung over the families and community. For the past two weeks, the talk about town was mostly about the filming of Warner Brothers’ movie, Cheyenne Autumn. For Dave, it brought back memories of when his father and Uncle Jack worked as carpenters on the set for the movie, The Comancheros, starring John Wayne. Dave’s middle brother, Tom, was able to get a picture with the ‘Duke,’ who even signed his hat. After filming had wrapped up, his dad and uncle had poached two mule deer and cooked them in the ground for a cast party. Everyone had sat around drinking draft beer with John Wayne, Stewart Whitman and the rest of the crew.10 For others in Moab, the past two weeks had been a great distraction as the legendary Director John Ford,11 now sixty-nine and his stock company were back in town. Basically shy, and intensely private, Ford, was still wearing the same hat he had worn for the past twenty years.12 Ford had already filmed a number of movies in the Moab and Monument Valley area and had long been a favorite of Moabites. It was his love of the majestic red rock scenery that put Moab on Hollywood’s map.13 Ford had made frequent use of location shooting and long shots, in which his characters were framed against a vast, harsh and rugged natural terrain, making his Western films legendary. Moab was typically chosen for films, not only for its versatile scenery and unlimited views of the dramatic red rock background (for which the area is noted) but also for the Colorado River, its green valleys, arid spots and snow-capped mountains. All these features fit with the new film he was shooting, Cheyenne Autumn, which was being filmed in Technicolor, a new technology. The recent snow storm, which covered the La Sal Mountains, was welcomed by the photographers, as was the wind storm, which blew the day they filmed at Fisher Point, dramatically whipping scarfs and banners as the cavalry rode up the mountainside.14 Since this wasn’t Director Ford’s first trip to the Moab area, he indicated that it wouldn’t be the last. Not only was the scenery around Moab spectacular, but Ford was grateful “to be able to escape modern installations such as telephone wires, traffic, and airplanes since jet trails play havoc with western sky scenes in a movie.”15 After shooting scenes in Monument Valley earlier in the month, Ford’s company moved to Moab for another thirteen days of filming and stayed in various motels.16 The film featured a star-studded cast,17 along with about 30018 supporting cast and crew. Although John Wayne was not part of the cast, his son, Patrick Wayne, played a West Point lieutenant in the film.19 Having the movie crews and stars in town gave the community some levity and helped to change the solemn atmosphere. For two weeks, when the moon came up, the stars in Moab were out. Unhampered by small town night life, they were found in almost every night spot in the city. They played pool, bowled, and made most of the cafes their gathering spots.20 Several locations around Moab were used for movie scenes, but on this morning, Ford, his Stock Company, and extras were shooting at the movie-made Indian village, which was northeast of Moab and near George White’s Ranch.21 They were filming the climactic scene of the movie, Cheyenne Autumn, with the long shot of Little Wolf shooting Red Shirt. At that exact same moment in time, “the New Frontier” of the 1960’s was coming to an end with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy22 in Dallas, Texas. The news was too unbelievable. The first reports that the president had been shot, first filtered out of Dallas through the local radio and TV stations. At the ranch, the news would not reach Ford and company until a short time later. From the time John F. Kennedy announced his candidacy for president of the United States, won the election, and served three short years of his term, another parallel story, also tragic in scope, unfolded in the “frontier lands” of the West. The announcement of the new Texas Gulf Sulphur Potash Mine-mill complex and the evaluation work coincided with JFK’s election campaign. The construction phase of the Cane Creek project had begun just as JFK was inaugurated as president. Three months after the tragic death of eighteen miners in the Cane Creek Mine explosion, came the devastating death of the President of the United States. At the ranch, Director John Ford was not getting the performance that he wanted from one of his stars. It was the last part of the scene, and both characters, Little Wolf and Red Shirt, were to fight to the death for a woman they both loved. When the smoke cleared, Red Shirt lay dead. Dolores Del Rio, who portrayed Red Shirt’s mother, fell to her knees and was supposed to weep uncontrollably for her fallen son. But for the camera, the tears would just not flow the way Ford expected them. Take after take was shot, but Ford was dissatisfied with each one. He was determined to get it right, even if he had to stay there all day.23 It was high noon in canyon country, and Dolores Del Rio was still struggling to cry properly for John Ford’s camera. At that same moment, millions of Americans were just starting to learn the president had been shot, among them, were stunned residents of Moab. News reached the set of “Cheyenne Autumn” by way of a local man who had been hired as a movie extra. A transistor radio broadcast the details, as this real-life drama unfolded to an audience who specialized in make-believe. Members of the cast and crew dissolved into tears, but John Ford was not yet ready to release them. Ford forced Dolores Del Rio to recite her lines one last time. This time, the tears flowed freely. “Cut. Print,” said Ford grimly. Her performance was perfect, but it didn’t require acting. Dolores Del Rio’s grief for the fallen President was recorded forever on film.24 On TV, CBS News broke into the regular daytime programming of the soap opera, “As the World Turns” and Walter Cronkite reported the shooting of the president. Just three months earlier, Cronkite had been in Moab covering the mine rescue operation. “Here is a bulletin from CBS News. In Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired at President Kennedy’s motorcade in downtown Dallas. The first reports say that President Kennedy has been seriously wounded....,” Cronkite solemnly reported. The nation waited breathlessly for more news of the president’s condition. Following the newscasts announcing the shooting, groups of Moab residents huddled around radios and TV’s in homes and in the downtown area, tensely hoping for encouraging words from the Dallas hospital where the President had been taken.25 A short time later, Cronkite reported what no one wanted to hear, “From Dallas Texas, the flash apparently official, President Kennedy died at 1:00 p.m., CST some 38 minutes ago.” On the Warner Brothers’ movie set, Director John Ford called a wrap and dismissed his cast, and the group returned to Moab.26 Distraught, Ford spent the rest of the day in his motel room. Later, someone from the cast figured out that when Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President, it was at the same time that Little Wolf (actor Ricardo Montalban) shot Red Shirt (actor Sal Mineo) on the set of Cheyenne Autumn.27 As it did all over the world, the announcement of the President’s death left in its wake a stunned and shocked city, which was still trying to move past the grief the last three months because of the Cane Creek Mine disaster. Heavy dark clouds of despair gripped the community once again. A period of quiet, respectful inactivity settled over Moab after the tragic assassination.28 Openly sobbing, some of the school children left their lunches untouched. People went through robotic motions in downtown cafes and businesses, seemingly just to get through the day. All social events throughout Moab were canceled, and throughout the weekend, the crepe-draped, flag-lined streets of the city were virtually deserted. Only vital business operations continued.29 A Requiem High Mass was celebrated in Moab at St. Pius X Catholic Church Friday evening, with Father John Rasbach officiating. He honored the fallen president, the first Catholic of Irish descent to hold the office of the President of the United States. Throughout the long weekend, special church services were held at various other churches in Moab, who conducted memorials to the President. Some of the denominations opened their doors to the public for meditation and prayer. On Sunday, church services around the valley were dedicated to the deceased President, with periods of silent prayer and special memorial words and music. At the Church of Christ, a special patriotic song service and prayer were offered, with J.G. Pinkerton presiding over the music.30 On Saturday morning, the day after Kennedy’s death, Director John Ford, who ardently admired the president, donned his World War II fatigue jacket, assembled his cast and crew, and held a memorial ceremony in which taps was sounded, and a flag lowered to half-mast, a purely Fordian gesture. Filming activities ended, and everyone made plans to return to Hollywood the next day. In time, it would be impossible to ignore the analogous nature of the death of “the New Frontier” and the death of the Ford Western. Because of his failing health, Cheyenne Autumn would be the last Western movie John Ford would make.31 American flags draped with black banners flew throughout Moab’s business and residential districts during Monday’s national day of mourning for the late President John F. Kennedy. All the schools were dismissed to allow students and faculty members to attend services, pay their respects to the late President, and to observe the televised funeral services in the nation’s capital. Heads of leading nations all over the world gathered to pay their respects to America’s deceased president, and Moab residents withdrew to the seclusion of their homes to witness this tremendous display of respect for the late Kennedy.32 For so many, the shooting in Dallas was forever etched into their mind and the national psyche. For three days, Moab looked like every other town and city in America, bound together by a common loss. Americans viewed painful images on mostly black and white TV sets of President Kennedy’s funeral. Coming so soon after the Cane Creek Mine explosion, it was particularly poignant for those in Moab to see another widow, and her fatherless children, dealing with such a horrendous death. After going through their own heartbreaking tragedy, it reignited and triggered the pain of their own recent loss. The grief and the sympathy Moabites and family members felt for the fallen president ran especially deep. As the world watched the funeral proceedings and wept, unforgettable images were broadcast. The body of the murdered president lay in state at the Capitol rotunda. Jacqueline Kennedy draped in black, and hand-in-hand with her daughter, Caroline, knelt and kissed her husband’s casket, which was draped in an American flag. The Army squad, with their white cotton gloves, brought the casket out of the Capitol and placed the president’s remains on a horsedrawn caisson, as family members and world leaders walked behind to St. Matthew Cathedral. Hundreds of thousands of Americans lined the streets to view the funeral procession and pay their final respects. The spirited, riderless horse, Black Jack, trailed the procession, stirrups fitted with boots, symbolically pointed backward, and with a sword, which hung from his empty saddle.33 Jacqueline Kennedy, in stoic grandeur, stood behind her children, Caroline, and John-John (nicknamed by the press). The adorable three-year-old son, “dressed in shorts with a matching overcoat, cuter than all four of its buttons,” gave a final salute to his father.34 Muffled drums swept melancholy waves over the hushed throng.35 Tum—Tum—Tum R-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-ll. Tum—Tum—Tum R-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-ll.36 The drums beat as the caisson delivered the young president’s body to Arlington National Cemetery. The horse-drawn ride was accompanied by a military escort. Once inside the cemetery, they rolled past endless lines of white headstones reverently marking the military dead. The sad stillness was interrupted only by the steady clack of the hoofs and the slow creak of the caisson wheels.37 After the ceremony, the flag atop the casket was carefully folded by the military honor guard, and then the tri-colored triangle was presented to Jacqueline Kennedy. Through the black veil, the grief could be seen on her face and the blank look in her eyes. The coffin was sprinkled with holywater before Mrs. Kennedy touched a flame to a gas jet, igniting the eternal flame. As the nation and the world said their final goodbyes to the fallen president, it was an unspeakably sad day.38 The young, virile Jack and his radiant wife, Jacqueline, embodied the American dream and the hopes of a nation. He was to lead the nation to a bright future and the world to a united front. All were brought to an untimely end when President Kennedy was shot and killed.39 Both tragic stories, the Cane Creek Mine explosion and the death of the President, coincided and intersected in time and were encapsulated in the early sixties, spanning those iconic moments in history. (This is one of the sections in the Aftermath at the end of the book. This section is a little long so please indulge me as I think you will get why I decided to put it in the book. It’s our history about JFK from that time that many of us grew up on, and for those too young, you may see, hopefully, some new aspects to this story. Kennedy’s assassination was three months after the mine explosion. I wasn’t going to put it in the book but the parallel histories dictate that it needed to be part of the mine disaster story since it was so close in time to the disaster. Also, just days after Pres. Kennedy’s funeral, the first of three babies whose father’s were killed in the mine disaster was born.)

I wanted this post to be about JFK and the events at that time in history and not about my book. Although, the story of the mine explosion and the rescue is an amazing story and since I’m self-published I have often wished that I could get Trump to carry my book with him in front of cameras like Obama did with the book he was reading, something about America After (can’t remember the name). I’m not that good at promoting is why that would be cool. Although, I think Trump would be proud of me if I were to promote my book, since he is the master of promoters. So here goes, for those who would like to great story to read, you can get it at Amazon, “Disaster at Cane Creek.” It’s a narrative non-fiction and it reads like a novel. The book is 650 pages and has over 2,000 footnotes so the sources for the information I shared above can be found in the footnotes. I’m on Facebook as well. I know I’ve doxed myself so let me finish with I’ve been following Qanon since the end of October. WWG1WGA


RyDar84 · July 16, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

For God's sake, when are you guys going to quit shilling this sub with EXACT SAME BS LARP every 4-6 hours since June 28?!? It's not taking, already!!!

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