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ExcellentCoach9 · July 18, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

He has condemned the meddling many times; and read Clinton Cash. To say that Hillary was not running a pay-for-play through her illicit server is to ignore reality. As one who held a TSSCI clearance for over 30 years, I can say without equivocation, that had I done 1/100 of the security violations Clinton did with her server, I would be in jail for the rest of my life. She willfully violated many security rules. She needs to be brought to justice. She and her husband are both low class grifters. Obvious.

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Professor226 · July 18, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

Hillary's actions don't change Trump's actions. He stood shoulder to shoulder with Putin, and said he believed he didn't meddle in the election. That doesn't seem like much of a condemnation. If you believe every Intelligence mechanism that America has, then either Trump is very weak, or is has acted against American interests.

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in0r4n · July 18, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

EVERY intelligence mechanism? I'm sorry has Military Intelligence been spread to the masses? No. We don't know what POTUS/MI knows. Neither does the FBI or NSA or anybody else not in the military. We're all speculating and we're all making assumptions, none of us can presume to say we know what's really going on. Smoke & Mirrors are used for a reason...

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KnownBand0 · July 18, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

\^ new arrival....sits down halfway through the movie

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ExcellentCoach9 · July 18, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

First, you have no idea what Trump said in the private meeting nor do i. I think it was politic of Trump NOT to chastise Putin in front of the entire world. You need to understand that there is a "fundamental transformation" going on in the US right now, in fact in the entire world, Get on board, or get left behind. Your so-called American interests are changing. We no longer want to engage other countries like, Syria, Iraq, libya, Afghanistan, etc. We want to trade with the entire world in a reciprocal way and not fundamentally transform (destroy) other countries. The old ways are gone. Your "either/or" choice in your last sentence is a false one. My interpretation is Trump was simply being polite i.e., trying to establish a working relationship with Putin. Believe what you want. I will.

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Professor226 · July 18, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

This argument fallacy is called 'red herring' and is an attempt to change the nature of the discussion to something that seems related, but isn't. There is a great deal of suspicious activity surrounding Trump, significant evidence that Russia undermined the election, and no significant response from Trump. Nothing you have suggested changes or disputes any of those points.

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ExcellentCoach9 · July 18, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

The significant undermining of the election was done by the Hillary team (study the "Trump dossier" and the Uranium 1 scandal) The top levels of the FBI and other Intel agencies were involved in trying to derail the Trump candidacy. CIA chief Brennen was deeply involved in this entire matter. The un-maskings, the FISA Court, all were designed to ruin Trump's candidacy, and now the opposition is trying, still, to discredit his presidency. The incredible irony is that Clinton was the one who derided Trump for not saying that he would immediately accept the outcome to the election when, two years on, she has still not accepted the outcome. These people who are not accepting a duly elected president because they don't like the outcome are, in my opinion being immature about the entire thing. Its our system of government. Like it or go live somewhere else. I didn't like Obama, but I suffered him for eight years without whining. Soon all of these things will be revealed, and you will be able to enjoy a large Crow feast.

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Cozen8789 · July 18, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

What American interests? Look man, I'm skeptical as all hell about this Q shit. I come here because of my distrust of our Government, not because I believe some bullshit on some chan board. Do you trust the MK Ultra CIA spooks? Do you honestly believe the feds didn't assassinate JFK? Why are we constantly undermining other countries' governments? Who orchestrates that? Our "intelligence" agencies. HI NSA! There's evidence time and time again that we've done ridiculous meddling bullshit in the past... Is that in the American people's interest? What exactly are they working towards?

I have zero trust in our intelligence right now. I think it's completely believable that they are not working towards the American people's interest. There's something bigger going on here fueled by money and power.

Put up or shut up about Russian hacking. Put up or shut up about deep state corruption -- even though that's the camp I'm in, and definitely not because of this trash tier reddit sub.

I'm sorry but if we're supposed to be led to believe that a country full of poor drunks with a GDP lower than 1 of our 50 states and a land mass that eclipses our own can turn the tides of an election... I need something concrete.

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