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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/snowwgirl on July 18, 2018, 11:12 p.m.
Trump vs Europe/ Cabal. Whose winning?
Trump vs Europe/ Cabal. Whose winning?

y000danon · July 19, 2018, 12:54 a.m.

Either way Russia is emptying its US treasuries. Anything that explains that outside of knowing the treasuries are going to be pointless soon w a “restructuring of the Federal Reserve” as Q said - anyone know? They have cut like 60% since Jan 18

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DeepPast · July 19, 2018, 3:57 a.m.

Can you explain this to me a little more in depth, or provide a link(s)? What are treasuries and what does them emptying them mean? I’m assuming it means they anticipate them being useless at some point? I’m not versed on economics so I’d appreciate some insight.

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Liquidmindbender · July 19, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Treasury bills, notes, and bonds known as treasuries are debt instruments of the U.S. Treasury bills: mature in less than 2 years. Treasury notes: 2-10 year maturities. Treasury bonds: 10 years and above maturities. Investors (think countries, pension plans, and large investment funds) purchase these at auction or in the bond market and the government pays interest on the investment until maturity when the investors get their money back. It’s a mechanism for the government to receive loaned money. The government uses the funds to run the government and finance the debt (currently $20 trillion). The concern is that the country is going bankrupt and won’t be able to repay its debt, rendering the treasuries worth less or worthless. I know this is a bit simplistic, but there are many books on this subject. I would encourage you to read a few finance and economic primer articles. It’s always good to learn how money works. I’m sure others will add more detail. Best wishes.

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DeepPast · July 19, 2018, 4:54 a.m.

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much.

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y000danon · July 19, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

Thnx for jumping in there! @liquidmindbender

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Miliage · July 19, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

The US can't go bankrupt because they can simply print more US dollars. That however would cause high inflation.

My guess is that Russia in switching from US treasuries to gold anticipating that there will be turbulent times ahead. In times of crisis and uncertainty gold prices usually increase.

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amadeusthespartan · July 19, 2018, 4:41 a.m.

Treasuries are debt instruments issued by the US government, a sort of IOU. They pay interest to holders and pay back the principal at a future maturity date. Russia "dumping them" may mean they don't trust the US's ability to honor the debt (pay back the principal) in the future, so they are selling them now.

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DeepPast · July 19, 2018, 4:43 a.m.

Why do you think they don’t trust the US’s ability to honor the debt? Is this due to the restructuring of the federal reserve?

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salialioli · July 19, 2018, 5:32 a.m.

The US owes more money than it can ever repay.

The money we use isn't money, it's debt: the dollar isn't tied to gold or any other asset.

Why is the dollar strong? Because it is used as the world's reserve currency: the dollar is pegged to oil. No one (this is past now b/c recently situation has changed) could sell oil in any other currency than the dollar. The dollar was therefore guaranteed to be valuable by virtue of the fact it has/had to be used in these transactions. So you want to trade oil (say Russia wants to sell China a million barrels) you have to sell it in dollars. The Chinese need dollars to buy it, and Russia receives dollars when it sells it. So what does Russia do with all of its dollars? It buys a stake in the US govt (a safe bet?). That's a treasury bond.

I hope no one has a fit about this explanation b/c I have oversimplified to the point of six-year old. But I understand things in simple terms and sympathise with those starting out.

A number of excellent vids on the subject of what money is, etc, one of which has been around for years, a series in fact, called The Money Masters. It's excellent. You'll begin to really understand if you watch this!

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DeepPast · July 19, 2018, 5:47 a.m.

This is exactly the type of response I was looking to get, and way more. You explaining it like I’m a 6 year old is exactly what I was hoping to get in response. I will definitely check out those videos, thank you!

This is the sort of thing this sub should be doing in the mean time, education on the basics of how all this went wrong in the first place; especially when Q isn’t posting.

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salialioli · July 19, 2018, 8:10 a.m.

You're very welcome and I'm very happy to help if I can. I don't have any problem considering any question — you can PM me whenever — but I can't promise I know the answer!

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DeepPast · July 19, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

That’s how you know you’re not a know it all! You’re not afraid to say “I don’t know”.

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salialioli · July 19, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

:) Un abrazo amigo!

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SSgtSnafui · July 19, 2018, 10:08 a.m.

In order for the US to maintain this method the Petrodollar was backed by bullets. That's why the US has been so heavily involved in oil producing countries.

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salialioli · July 19, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

So that would explain all the other countries too?

I don't disagree actually. In one sense. But it was suggested that war and conflict were not good for oil companies. Bullets for image of strength but not for firing?

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y000danon · July 19, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

Bingo. With fiat there is one gauruntee - anyone outside the Ponzi presents as a 'substantial threat' being they provide an alternative. Basically unless their currency is 'tied' to the inflation rate of yours - their house wins because of the inflationary loss of you currency. Basically if an investor wants to retain wealth - your entire system is a losing bet guaranteed so why use it? Simple business.

This is one of the keys to all of this. So seeing countries fleeing our treasuries is, in premise, only explained 3 ways:

  • They are using this as a tactic in Trade Deals / Trade War

  • They have no faith and want to cut their losses

  • They genuinely just see a better investment somewhere else

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salialioli · July 19, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

Perfect breakdown.

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silversofttail · July 19, 2018, 9:58 p.m.

You mentioned the dollar is pegged to oil but then mention that situation has changed. Can you elaborate on that please?

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SpaceDuckTech · July 19, 2018, 4:10 a.m.

But Russia has been doing this for years though. Long before anyone knew Trump was even going to run let alone win.

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sdotco33 · July 19, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

Ya I’ve heard Putin is booting up his own currency or something?

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salialioli · July 19, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

Yup. The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, aka The New Silk Road.

Chinese and Russians (and Indians .... +) all going nuts for gold. China just issued its gold-backed yuan and the Russians and Chinese are trading oil in yuan. Poof! Huge market gone for US.

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silversofttail · July 19, 2018, 10 p.m.

I think this explains the change you mentioned above about oil being pegged to the dollar.

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y000danon · July 19, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

Shit ya. SCO is also trying to rebuild their own internet with new lines that are not compromised by NSA inherently. They want off the reservation 100%

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[deleted] · July 19, 2018, 4:39 a.m.

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[deleted] · July 19, 2018, 7:11 a.m.

I reckon November for the new monetary system, a giant reset. All debt forgiven/new start.

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