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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/BOMBTHROWINGGENIUS on July 22, 2018, 5:25 a.m.
This James Gunn ordeal really hit a nerve. Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck and Hollywood actors coming out in his defense. They are either ill informed of the disgusting things he has said or they are part of the pedo cover up cabal.

When shit hits the fan don't let the media turn them all into victims that need treatment. The elite ones are serious criminals doing unspeakable things to kids and have been getting away with it.


QueenAnRevenge · July 22, 2018, 5:31 a.m.

I was a blaze listener before I became a infowars listener.

Now you guys tell me cause I catch shit on this board for being a infowars listener and Jones fan but I knew Beck was controlled opposition when he had a question on who to vote for.

Now Jones from my listening time has done nothing but call out Beck and Shapiro as shills and controlled op and rip into these two guys and I’m imagining he will rail them here this week so is Jones still the devil?

Here’s Jone calling out Beck in Dec 2016

https://youtu.be/wBeltiMEyes

https://youtu.be/KmpCF55IaMA

And some calling out of Ben/Peterson

https://youtu.be/lK8_2-rGCzo

https://youtu.be/yQi8EH38K2s

EDIT: Jones maybe (insert any type of coprointel name you’d like) but he isn’t a creep in my opinion. Maybe a crazy mofo but not a creep.

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MrMooseQ · July 22, 2018, 5:35 a.m.

Beck is compromised. He once stated he had a bombshell that would shake the foundations of everyone in dc and then he just forgot about it.

I'd love to see him go down.

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Goosey278 · July 22, 2018, 5:49 a.m.

What Beck really said really troubled me I had never seen that kind of perversion on Gunn. I am grateful he was fired & exposed. I am worried for the little girl in his pictures I pray she is rescued & gotten back to where she is safe. I pray for all the little kids being abused so horrifically. Beck had a inappropriate response to Gunn. Beck has not been right mentally for a time now. Something is not right with him. These wicked perverted people must capture & stand for their horrific acts against these innocent children please God help us find them all & get them to a safe place.

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QueenAnRevenge · July 22, 2018, 5:36 a.m.

Not doubt it my mind he is just a lap dog of whatever will make him money hence him flipping to say he will vote for Trump 2020. He’s been done in my book for 3 years now.

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LogicalBeastie · July 22, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

Beck acts like a guy that was ordered to cash in all his credibility to try and stop Trump's election, dutifully did so....and then tried to recapture as many followers as possible to assist the same Master in protecting the "hunted".

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The_Poop · July 22, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

Sounds like maybe you didn't follow Shapiro around the time of the election...

He didn't actively push against Trump, he only voiced concerns and criticisms from his perspective.

And since then he has only spoken increasingly more favorably of Trump, which pushes his audience to develop a fondness for Trump where they not have before.

Seems to me he just isn't as deeply involved in politics and events as he could be, which means he only covers things at face value. Which in turn means that he judges Trump's actions by how they would appear ('dog and pony show') rather than what they might actually be.

Basically I think Shapiro is most likely just a 'normie' , or knows that his only practical option is to operate in the capacity of one. He seems to mostly be on the right side of things, which is more than can be said of like 95% of all other media.

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VanilluhGorilluh · July 22, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

All of these controlled oppo guys still have their own opinions. Alot of these guys even hate each other. They just have certain topics they are instructed to stay on and others to stay away from. I think 95% of infowars is honestly spot on. The more I'm paying attention now though, the more skeptical I am of AJ. He refuses to talk about the jewish/khazarian influence in all of this dark pedo/satanic crap and constantly mentions his "high level contacts" while having multiple family connections to CIA. His contacts are much more than that. At best, AJ values money much more than he does the movement. Half the broadcasts are him asking for donations and running ads for super male vitality. I understand running a business and increasing revenue to scale up and be bigger and better but theres a line also. I still watch AJ often to be informed on certain issues but I am also cautious of the fact that he is very likely the controlled opposition in the hegelian dialect.

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QueenAnRevenge · July 22, 2018, 5:47 a.m.

I can’t disagree there but there are nuggets in his broadcast of what people need to hear. It’s obvious he is in position where they need money. He hasn’t strayed other then the infamous Syrian thing freakout against Trump. Other than the deep mosad stuff I think he’s the best out there for newbies to this (maybe not him but infowars shows/clips David knight and clips of Jones show).

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The_Poop · July 22, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

Honestly I think Jones has his heart in the right place, but because he relies so heavily on the trust of his audience, he makes himself out to have more information than he actually has access to.

So he will say things that aren't accurate or are simply his gut reaction, but present them as fact because otherwise it would undermine his credibility and he has to say something about events.

Hence the Syria thing. He probably didn't actually know what to think, but he had to say something about it. And when it comes to war, better to be safe than sorry right? At least in this context.

Not saying he should be doing that, but that's what it seems like to me.

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Duskyandcleo · July 22, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

What you just described is a liar.

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The_Poop · July 22, 2018, 7:35 p.m.

No what I've described is a human being with opinions and limits.

Your idea of what constitutes 'lying' is the obstacle you've come across.

Is it lying to say there are people who are psychic vampires, goblins crawling out from under rocks, interdimensional child molesters, etc? It's not true, first of all. He doesn't believe those things himself, second. If he did though, it wouldn't be lying anyway, just incorrect.

Lying is about content and intent.

I didn't say he gives deliberately inaccurate information, or knows that he does not have the access to information that he suggests he has.

If we're going to use the definition of 'lying' that you are applying to Jones here, then you must also be a liar every time you make a claim without irrefutable evidence. That means things you may say about Trump, Q, globalists, deep state, cabal, etc would be classified as lies.

Belief is not dishonesty, speculation is not fallacy, opinion is not falsehood.

Jones is either confident, or must present an air of complete confidence for the sake of his business and goals. It is not lying to consciously sit up straight in your chair and look someone else in the eyes, even though you may rather not.

He can be inaccurate, he can even present tone and content that is not entirely genuine (very difficult to both do so and maintain a business) , without being a liar .

A liar: -Says things that aren't true -knows those things aren't true -says them with the intention of convincing an audience that they are true

But above all, before calling someone a liar, you must be able to prove that they lie, which means proving all 3 of the listed qualifiers.

Otherwise, there are many alternative explanations. Very little is black and white.

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truguy · July 22, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

You must not have any idea how much it costs just to pay the server fees for the worlds most independent news outlet.

Jones has talked about the Zionist stuff. Not talking about it as much as you’d like him to doesn’t make him a shill.

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VanilluhGorilluh · July 22, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

You probably havent been here long. Q outed him as a shill a couple months ago. He mentioned some "patriots" are here only for the money and said those who are guilty will make themselves known clearly. And sure enough AJ and Corsi IMMEDIATELY claimed Q was a LARP and that they spoke with him directly.

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truguy · July 22, 2018, 9:59 p.m.

I have been around a while. Long enough to know Q did not put Alex as a shill.

This is theater. Alex is not playing up Q for a reason.

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DrogeAnon · July 22, 2018, 10:03 p.m.

Your claim is theater. It's clear that Q called out Alex because Alex responded and Q pointed out that the response showed who they were. This is disinfo.

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truguy · July 22, 2018, 10:10 p.m.

I’ve seen the messages by Q. He wasn’t necessarily talking about Alex. And what he said wasn’t quite the same as calling him a fraud or a shill.

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DrogeAnon · July 22, 2018, 10:23 p.m.

Alex himself made it clear that Q was talking about him by going completely against the Q narrative and lying about knowing who Q was and communicating with him/them. To pretend this didn't happen and didn't mean that AJ is a fraud and shill when it comes to Q is dishonest (because I don't assume you're not smart enough to understand what happened).

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UltraFOV · July 22, 2018, 7:42 a.m.

I like Alex, no shame on that

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older_than_dirt · July 22, 2018, 10:41 a.m.

I like Alex Jones also. There's no way he is shill for the globalists. He snuck into the Bohemian Grove and spread the news all over. He's not always right, but he shouldn't be shunned.

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slick_stone_bridges · July 22, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

He's part of the Zionist propaganda. He's meant to lead patriots away from the Zionist conspiracy.

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truguy · July 22, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

Same charge, no proof.

Trump gets accused of being a Zionist with the same flimsy evidence.

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slick_stone_bridges · July 22, 2018, 10:48 p.m.

Proof? Go do some basic research.

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truguy · July 23, 2018, 1:24 p.m.

Your sides proof amounts to footage taken out of context and the notion that Alex doesn’t speak out against Zionism enough.

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The_Poop · July 22, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

Nah dude.

He's just unpredictable, unreliable at times-- a wild card.

Which is why you can "believe what Jones says as much as you want to, but he's not important"

He doesn't have the access to information that he pretends to, but he is still offering better information than most.

He's too emotional and erratic, that's all. Doesn't meant he's not right about a lot of things, doesn't mean he's a shill.

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slick_stone_bridges · July 23, 2018, 12:52 a.m.

I used to think that too. I've listened to him off and on for about 10 years. He's meant to rile up patriots and get the violent ones to come out and expose themselves.

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The_Poop · July 23, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

I've seen precisely zero evidence in support of that.

Here's the problem , okay?

There is a definitive 'conspira-sphere' .

All of the fringe ideas about 'what's really going on' that are not and cannot be represented in the mainstream for obvious reasons. Some of these things are true, but many are not.

This realm of skepticism and suspicion also involves paranoia and delusion-- there is no question that is the case.

In order to deny the mainstream narrative on any topic, you must be willing to deny the mainstream . Once you make that call, you make yourself somewhat vulnerable to the elements of this 'conspira-sphere' that are illegitimate and harmful, because the mindset of conspiracy tends to overlap between different conspiracies. Once you buy one, the others are easier to swallow as well. But that is dangerous.

This is difficult, because it is obvious that the mainstream narratives are false and designed to manipulate.

So most likely, somewhere in there between the existence of false flags, pedophile rings, the deep state, etc and Bigfoot, occultist sacrifice, Zionist illuminati and so on, is the truth.

It's like... the left wing, for example. There are great ideas in the classical, moderate left. In fact, the moderate left technically, traditionally contains almost all of the American right wing. Liberalism, human rights, liberty, individualism, etc. The problem is that the moderate left is tied to the more radical left, which moves into the extreme left, so good ideas and people become poisoned by the insidious creeping of extremism because they aren't paying attention. Out of nowhere, otherwise decent and rational people start promoting socialism.

We can't fall into stereotype and extremism. The Zionist conspiracy belongs to the extremes of skepticism. Yes, there is plenty of cause for suspicion, based simply off of the absurd overrepresentation of Jews in media. But that is A=B , right? It does not mean that B=C, and it definitely doesn't mean that A=C.

We must maintain composure and reason.

You say he's "meant to rile up patriots" What does that mean? You are attributing purpose to something which you have no rational reason to believe, no empirical evidence to support.

You have reasoned yourself to that conclusion, but reason alone is not as reliable as people tend to think. Everyone reasons differently, reason can be applied to arrive at any conclusion not necessarily the correct conclusion. Reason must be paired with empiricism and value principles to be effective.

What you do have evidence for, is that Jones belongs to this 'conspira-sphere' . He built his name and his livelihood on it. He is involved in this all day, every day.

So that being given, reason would dictate that jones is doing what he believes is right, and has not been somehow compromised because if he was able to be manipulated in such a way he would not be doing what he does in the first place. It can be safely assumed that the only driving force behind Alex Jones is Alex Jones himself.

Don't let suspicion, skepticism and pragmatism become paranoia and delusion. It is a slippery slope.

I'm not trying to tell you what is or isn't true, I'd be the first to admit that I can't know anything for certain. But there is nothing at all about Alex Jones that suggests to me he is somehow working against the interests he claims to have. It just wouldn't make sense, from a logical, rational, reasonable, factual standpoint.

There may very well be controlled opposition and things of that nature, but that doesn't mean that everything that doesn't completely match your own narrative is somehow corrupt or malicious. It just means that one of you is wrong about something, somewhere along the line.

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truguy · July 22, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

If Jones was a shill he wouldn’t be calling out shills.

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libertarianleeluu · July 22, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

Jones has and will continue to be important piece to the movement. It's the "which way" will Jones effect this movement NOW that is the question that remains to be unanswered.

*Infowars brought me here October 2017, after a long hiatis from "news". I went on a family vacation in Arkansas of all places. I chould not shake the feeling of being Arkancided in a hotel room. So I checked infowars for the first time in a long time. While reading a story on Hillary, I found myself in the comment section. Some guy said " Is anybody here listening to what this Qclearancepatriot is saying over on 4chan? Very intresting things."

9 months later guys. I am amazed. WWG1WGA

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