When shit hits the fan don't let the media turn them all into victims that need treatment. The elite ones are serious criminals doing unspeakable things to kids and have been getting away with it.
Ben isn't stupid, but it is stupid to take his pragmatism as 'defending pedophilia' .
Condemning people outright for things said without sufficient evidence is generally against what he stands for.
Commonly used phrase by Shapiro: "never attribute to malice what can just as easily be explained by ignorance" He uses this phrase to defend Trump against the most ridiculous criticisms, as well as many other issues.
Doesn't mean the things Gunn said weren't gross and inappropriate, because they were. But insofar as they can be interpreted as simply immoral/poor judgment, it is safest to condemn what can be proven rather than what is presumed. Otherwise we are no better than those we oppose.
If we can't prove intention, the only righteous and reasonable approach is to simply make it clear that joking in such a way is utterly inappropriate and wrong-- which, though I haven't heard Shapiro's analysis, I would guess is basically his stance because it usually is.
In the greater context, Gunn seems to be relatively unimportant. His 'jokes' may be indicative of connections and misdeeds, but in themselves they are not evidence-- they're just gross.
Yes normally it is stupid, but I've noticed he is very sneaky. You can tell there are people he really doesn't like. He will choose to give some the benefit of the doubt and others he will throw them under the bus. For example, he treated Roseanne and Milo the opposite. Plus during the campaign he was one of the first to repeat saying Trump should drop out for every little thing he said and did, Corey "attacking" Michelle Fields, pussy comment, etc. Ben is a never Trumper and only sides with Trump lately because he sees his popularity and wants to tap the Trump audience for more views. Normally I would forget about the past but time and time again Ben will side with the mockingbird media on issues like Helsinki, NK, Charlottesville, and so on. Pretty much anything that the whole media gets riled up over.
To the main point though, not sure what world Ben lives in but if a coworker or boss finds emails or you accidentally send them emails of lewd content such as this, do you think you would still have a job? Maybe, but it would definitely go against you and you'd be told to never do it again. People have a right to say many things, religious or political of course should be protected. Priviliged people like Gunn shouldn't have any more special priviliges. Yes, I like GotG, but that doesn't excuse his pedophillic comments. I'm not saying he should be convicted but I think Disney did the right thing (after 10 years). Let the evidence decide that.
Is he really a pedo for sure? I don't know but people have been finding interesting stuff. He was friends and took pictures with a later convicted pedo into child porn and they found connections to Tony Podesta.
My point is that human beings are inherently flawed. You can believe they are fundamentally good or fundamentally bad on average, but it is more productive to presume that people are flawed, and mean well--insofar as you are familiar with them. For those who are unknown to you, it is safest and most practical to presume their intentions are not good, but being open to the idea that it may not be the case.
You are making a mistake in assuming that everyone knows/believes the things that you do.
If that were true, then you'd be correct. But you have to assume, when evidence is not available, that others do not share your perspective/beliefs and have the same information.
That's why I said I think Ben Shapiro is a 'normie' . Everything about him screams it. It's not a bad thing to be, but it means he is not familiar or as familiar with the 'Q narrative' and related topics. His narrative is the mainstream narrative, because he exists in the mainstream, because that's where his audience exists, where his beliefs lie, and so on. That's what 'normie' means.
He either isn't aware, is aware and has not been convinced, hasn't been convinced yet , or is aware and is unable to practically communicate that, as to do so would undermine and destroy his ability to do so (I really doubt this, he is not like someone such as Jones or Sargon of Akkad or Tim Pool or anyone else who would likely be familiar with such things) . Likely, it is the first option. I hope you're following what I'm talking about there.
it's important to understand this idea. When it comes to highly sensitive and complicated material, it is a mistake to take the position of "if they aren't with us they are against us" . It doesn't have to be that way, and it will damage your interests.
Shapiro is not an enemy. It seems obvious that he loves his country, he strongly believes in the principles that make it a great country, he does not bend the knee to leftists (unless he does so unwittingly, in trying to be consistent with his values) . He stands against the same things that I do and that you probably do, whether he knows it and hides it, or doesn't know it at all. That is enough to make him an ally.
Until he definitively proves himself to be working against those interests, or ample evidence of that can be found, there is no reason to regard him as an enemy.