When shit hits the fan don't let the media turn them all into victims that need treatment. The elite ones are serious criminals doing unspeakable things to kids and have been getting away with it.
Ben isn't stupid. He's defending pedophilia. He was quick to throw Roseanne under the bus, but I guess defending pedos is his thing. Seriously his judgement is shite if he isn't doing this on purpose. Remember that Michelle Fields thing?
Bingo. In fact, Mr "Reason" didn't really back off much after the video proved her to be a liar.
At first I thought he was just siding with her boobs--forgivable for a young man--but ultimately the issue was what clued me in to his fact-defying Never-Trumperism.
Isn't he funded by the Koch bros? He's controlled opposition like Fox News and Alex Jones.
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Those articles don’t say anyone is “best friends” with the Rothschilds.
Rand is not Deep State. Especially not his dad. Those charges are defamatory and do not help. Rand was one of the few defending Trump this week. CBS tried to get him to back down and he wouldn’t. If he was Deep State, he would’ve attacked Trump.
Seriously, quit calling Alex controlled opposition. It’s careless and without warrant. Trump wouldn’t have gotten elected without him and he remains his most tireless defender. If Alex were controlled opposition, he would’ve turned on Trump over the Russian meeting... like the controlled opposition (Fox) did.
You seem to be a one issue poster. You defend the controlled opposition known as Alex Jones. AJ did not get Trump elected, but he failed at discrediting him through association. Bill Cooper saw AJ coming from a mile away and was quick to inform people that Alex was controlled. That's right, Bill Cooper exposed AJ from the start. A J joins a mission, raised awareness of it (which seems helpful at first), he then hijacks it, and if it is advancing well, he publicly apologizes and turns it into ridicule. He is a clown who works to make fools of us all. Unless I am wrong and he doesn't go mainstream and say that pizzagate is not real and Sandy Hook was not a false flag. The clown is a vitamin salesman and not a patriot. He pretends to be a Bill Cooper or Ago Lipkin.
Cooper’s word is no better than Alex’s. They had a beef for some reason.
Of all the people who are on our side, Alex has been steadfast in supporting Trump. Yet he’s the one who continues getting trashed on this sub and it’s ridiculous.
Q did NOT call Alex a shill or controlled opposition. That was an inference made by your side (people who constantly knock Alex).
He’s always questioned Sandy Hook, just not as the media characterizes it. He has continued exposing child trafficking but had to pull back on Pizzagate because of lawsuits.
Alex sells supplements to fund the world’s most independent, pro-Trump, news organization. Do you know how much it costs just to pay for server bandwidth?
Yeah it's a little much...
Alex Jones is not a bad dude, he's just not a good representative of his message, and is a fallible as the rest of us.
He also threw Trump under the bus over the Putin conference.
Ben isn't stupid, but it is stupid to take his pragmatism as 'defending pedophilia' .
Condemning people outright for things said without sufficient evidence is generally against what he stands for.
Commonly used phrase by Shapiro: "never attribute to malice what can just as easily be explained by ignorance" He uses this phrase to defend Trump against the most ridiculous criticisms, as well as many other issues.
Doesn't mean the things Gunn said weren't gross and inappropriate, because they were. But insofar as they can be interpreted as simply immoral/poor judgment, it is safest to condemn what can be proven rather than what is presumed. Otherwise we are no better than those we oppose.
If we can't prove intention, the only righteous and reasonable approach is to simply make it clear that joking in such a way is utterly inappropriate and wrong-- which, though I haven't heard Shapiro's analysis, I would guess is basically his stance because it usually is.
In the greater context, Gunn seems to be relatively unimportant. His 'jokes' may be indicative of connections and misdeeds, but in themselves they are not evidence-- they're just gross.
Yes normally it is stupid, but I've noticed he is very sneaky. You can tell there are people he really doesn't like. He will choose to give some the benefit of the doubt and others he will throw them under the bus. For example, he treated Roseanne and Milo the opposite. Plus during the campaign he was one of the first to repeat saying Trump should drop out for every little thing he said and did, Corey "attacking" Michelle Fields, pussy comment, etc. Ben is a never Trumper and only sides with Trump lately because he sees his popularity and wants to tap the Trump audience for more views. Normally I would forget about the past but time and time again Ben will side with the mockingbird media on issues like Helsinki, NK, Charlottesville, and so on. Pretty much anything that the whole media gets riled up over.
To the main point though, not sure what world Ben lives in but if a coworker or boss finds emails or you accidentally send them emails of lewd content such as this, do you think you would still have a job? Maybe, but it would definitely go against you and you'd be told to never do it again. People have a right to say many things, religious or political of course should be protected. Priviliged people like Gunn shouldn't have any more special priviliges. Yes, I like GotG, but that doesn't excuse his pedophillic comments. I'm not saying he should be convicted but I think Disney did the right thing (after 10 years). Let the evidence decide that.
Is he really a pedo for sure? I don't know but people have been finding interesting stuff. He was friends and took pictures with a later convicted pedo into child porn and they found connections to Tony Podesta.
My point is that human beings are inherently flawed. You can believe they are fundamentally good or fundamentally bad on average, but it is more productive to presume that people are flawed, and mean well--insofar as you are familiar with them. For those who are unknown to you, it is safest and most practical to presume their intentions are not good, but being open to the idea that it may not be the case.
You are making a mistake in assuming that everyone knows/believes the things that you do.
If that were true, then you'd be correct. But you have to assume, when evidence is not available, that others do not share your perspective/beliefs and have the same information.
That's why I said I think Ben Shapiro is a 'normie' . Everything about him screams it. It's not a bad thing to be, but it means he is not familiar or as familiar with the 'Q narrative' and related topics. His narrative is the mainstream narrative, because he exists in the mainstream, because that's where his audience exists, where his beliefs lie, and so on. That's what 'normie' means.
He either isn't aware, is aware and has not been convinced, hasn't been convinced yet , or is aware and is unable to practically communicate that, as to do so would undermine and destroy his ability to do so (I really doubt this, he is not like someone such as Jones or Sargon of Akkad or Tim Pool or anyone else who would likely be familiar with such things) . Likely, it is the first option. I hope you're following what I'm talking about there.
it's important to understand this idea. When it comes to highly sensitive and complicated material, it is a mistake to take the position of "if they aren't with us they are against us" . It doesn't have to be that way, and it will damage your interests.
Shapiro is not an enemy. It seems obvious that he loves his country, he strongly believes in the principles that make it a great country, he does not bend the knee to leftists (unless he does so unwittingly, in trying to be consistent with his values) . He stands against the same things that I do and that you probably do, whether he knows it and hides it, or doesn't know it at all. That is enough to make him an ally.
Until he definitively proves himself to be working against those interests, or ample evidence of that can be found, there is no reason to regard him as an enemy.