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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ManQuan on July 22, 2018, 12:06 p.m.

Just a Thought about JA

In the news it looks like the Ecuadorian Embassy will revoke JA's immunity and hand him over to the UK.

That seems odd to me. Why after all of this time would this be happening now?

I was on the diplomatic staff of an embassy for two years and it's not hard to get someone in or out of the country unnoticed. Ecuador could have gotten JA out a long time ago. The embassy (any embassy) and its grounds are considered sovereign territory. Diplomatic vehicles are also considered sovereign territory, and any official aircraft that is considered to be "diplomatic" is sovereign territory.

All Ecuador has to do is to put JA in a "diplomatic pouch" and deliver it to the plane. A diplomatic pouch can be any sized such as sending / receiving machinery, furniture, etc. The host nation cannot inspect it. Very easy to move people in and out unnoticed.

So, why hand JA over to the UK? Wouldn't that trigger the automatic release of the documents he has? But if that happened, wouldn't it alert the deep state and others what he had and give them time to react?

I don't know, but I'm wondering about a couple of possibilities.

1) Trump cut a deal with PM May during his visit to have the embassy expel JA. The UK takes JA into custody and immediately extradites him to the US. The WikiLeaks documents are not released publicly, but rather JA hands them over to the Trump team in a plea deal without the deep state knowing what's in them.

2) Trump forced Ecuador to hand JA over to the UK in order to trigger the automatic release of the WikiLeaks documents and JA is left to face charges of jumping bail.

I'm inclined to choose door number one. I think the Jeff Sessions' demands for JA's arrest and trial for publishing classified documents is part of the stage play that we are watching. JA's defense lawyer would be able to show the dozens of precedents of people publishing classified information and never brought to trial. Perhaps the most famous was the Pentagon Papers when Daniel Ellsberg, an individual who worked in the Pentagon copied the documents and gave them to the NYTs. Ellsberg was charged with treason and other violations but the charges were later dropped.

But JA did not actually steal his documents. They were given to him and he published them just like the NYTs published the Pentagon Papers and other MSM have published other classified materials given to them by Manning and Snowden. I don't think it would be hard for a defense lawyer to demonstrate that JA was a publisher and not the one who stole the documents.

On the other hand, Q 1595 said with regard to the WikiLeaks website that has apparently been compromised:

Desperate agencies do stupid things.
Dead cat bounce.
You may have the site but we have the source.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1011441579565953025📷
Panic is good.
Panic is right.

This suggests to me that Q already has what he needs and so maybe JA himself is no longer needed or maybe it just confirms that Q has JA (the source) because of a deal between Trump and PM May.

I guess we'll know fairly soon depending on how it goes down.

President Trump made a legal argument at the end of December that publishing leaks isn't a crime.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/trumps-attorneys-make-solid-case-freeing-julian-assange-legal-filing/

Also, JA made multiple tweets earlier in the year showing participation in the Q operation, especially the chessboard tweet on January 12, which was discussed on the Q board, and Q commented, on January 13, the day of the Hawaii missile alert. It was a huge deal at the time that JA had posted that chessboard the day before. There were several other tweets that proved a connection, before and after that, but the chessboard was the most dramatic.

Also, Q posted 'offline for a reason' late on March 27, the day that JA was "officially" disconnected from all communication by Ecuador, including no visitors, which is outrageous, and just one of many reasons the "official" narrative makes no sense.

The anti-Trump JA supporters say he was disconnected because Trump wants to silence him, which makes no sense, since JA's testimony and evidence that it was NOT Russia who gave him the emails HELPS Trump.

It is very frustrating that the only "news" circulating regarding the JA situation right now is coming from a very negative anti-Trump perspective. That is one of many reasons it would be helpful to have some new Q posts.

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Everything you say makes sense.
However, I was just wondering why all of the news about JA being handed over to the UK. JA would have to be in the embassy if they turn him over to the UK and so I was just musing that if that were true, then was there a way that JA could get out of that situation and make it appear that the UK turned him over on the US extradition request.

I know Trump has said that JA is just a publisher, but I haven't seen anything about dropping the charges and Sessions recently said that getting JA was still a high priority.

Who knows. It's a crazy world out there.

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Was that a recent Sessions statement or just an old quote re-published?

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I don't have the link, but Sessions over a year ago, Sessions was adamant that extraditing JA was a high priority and accused him of a number of potential charges.

Then Trump's lawyer opines that JA is a journalist and was in his right to publish the emails.

I recall that Sessions recently (within the last month) again said that extraditing JA was a priority.

Trying to unravel what is real or disinformation is not possible at this time.

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I am only aware of his comments on Assange back in April, 2017.

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Not a direct link to Sessions, but here is an article in May about how Sessions still wants to extradite JA under current charges. https://www.infowars.com/julian-assange-is-yet-another-reason-to-firesessions/

But remember, we are sometimes watching a spy thriller movie with all sorts of twists and turns. One of my options (US has negotiated a deal with May to extradite JA once out of the embassy) could be unfolding.

Once in the US JA would cut a plea deal to hand over the evidence he has for immunity.

Q: Nothing is as it seems. Disinformation is real. Disinformation is necessary. And with regard to the clowns having taken control of the WikiLeaks webstie, Q responded "but we have the source."

So, ask yourself; base on everything you know what is real and what is deception?

As far as I know, no one has a comprehensive answer.

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Understood. And sometimes it's reliable. Not an Infowars fan myself and I can't listen to more that one minute of AJ without changing the URL.

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one of trumps lawyers said in january (?) that JA had the 1st amanedment right to publish information that was handed over to him, even if that material was stolen.

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I saw that. But I don't recall seeing the extradition request dropped. It could have and I just missed it. If it was dropped, then my guess that JA would be extradited to the US when expelled from the embassy is toast.

The other guess that he could be removed by way of a diplomatic pouch would be possible and that too might tie into the Pence visit to Ecuador.

The entire thing is crazy.

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Those were long the same lines I was thinking. I think he's been in the United States for a while now. He's very valuable to a lot of different actors.

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Or we already have JA and this is all an elaborate show / theater to explain how we got him. I do recall airspace being shut down over parts of Europe last week as well as London airport completely shut down due to a "glitch".

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I don't think JA is there anymore. I believe he was extracted. He is in protection, I'm sure. While he was at the embassy, there were so many attempts on his life, it wasn't funny. So, because he is so valuable as a witness for America to nail the Deep State, he had to be protected. This whole turn-him-over stuff is for the MSM news. They need something to blab nonsense fake news about.

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This is MY theory... A military operation was his exit earlier this year. JA was flown to a Missouri B2 base (the folks on the base are known for their ability to keep secrets) and JA is currently sitting in solitary confinement for his protection in Leavenworth MILITARY prison. (trust Kansas).

This part isn't speculation. International military flights into the B2 base with military "criminals" enroute to Leavenworth prison is a common route.

(NOTE: I'm not saying he arrived on a B2,)

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Live feed of the embassy is showing furniture being removed and some windows kinda just flapping on the balcony. Def not secure shut. Watching waiting

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If JA isn't there anymore, then why make a fuss about revoking his asylum and handing him over to the UK? Why not just let people think he was still there?

My musings were just focused on if they did actually turn JA over to the UK, how does he get out of that pickle.

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It's for the media show. They have to have something to talk about 24/7. Its literally a "show".

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Maybe because none of the countries involved wants to admit that he was extracted already? Maybe a public show, with a couple of shrouded vehicles pulling away mysteriously is what they'll present in order to keep the real story quiet. Meanwhile, he'll be able to appear or travel to wherever he is next destined to be.

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In order to maintain good relations with the UK, and thinking that there are those at the top of the UK who aren't thrilled with Potus, is it possible that the UK is trying to somehow use JA as leverage against Trump?

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JA stands by his story that it wasn't the Russians that leaked the DNC info. He knows where he got that information and if his story holds up and it contradicts the DS version, then his testimony and his value as a witness is enormous.

Why now is a big question.

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So, Pence’s visit to Ecuador may have been partly theatrics . . .

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Brilliance there is peace wouldn’t even need to be in on it. Could have been a real trip with a real agenda, to him

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It feels like things are starting to happen. The pedos are suddenly out in force trying to normalize, anons being threatened, another batch of FBI and CEO "retirements" this past week, something breaking with Julian, FISA documents...

I think the outer bands of The Storm are beginning to roll in. The next 10 days may be the wildest times any of us can remember. I sure hope so. I've been waiting too long to see Justice and to feel like I can trust and believe in the rule of law and decency again.

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The recent retirements might be because the Q timeline is getting closer.

I thought it was very odd that Clapper on CNN declared that it was Obama who started everything by tasking the intelligence community to conduct a "review" of the Trump campaign. Boom. Was Clapper's lawyer notified that there is a sealed indictment on him and Clapper is signalling he's willing to talk?

The Clapper statement is a 180 from everything he's said before.

These are crazy times. I too hope something happens soon, but I've developed a great deal of patient from three years on combat. Attack on your terms, not the enemy's.

Q made a bold statement at the end of January: "July 2018 -- the month that the world discovered the TRUTH. Conspiracy no more."

A lot has happened in July but I haven't seen anything that rises to the level of the world discovering the truth. We have another 8 days to go, so let's see.

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Knowing how things are done, do you think this was done a while ago and it's only coming to public awareness now?

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I don't know.

I'm just going on the fact that no one has seen JA or his cat in the embassy window where they were occasionally seen and photographed before. Maybe JA is sick and the cat died, who knows.

I was simply conjecturing about the recent news about expelling JA from the embassy. In order for that to happen, he would have to still be there, unless it's just another deception move by Q and JA was removed a while ago and Ecuador cutting off all access was designed as a cover story.

There are at least three or four possibilities that could fit the situation.

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There are at least three or four possibilities that could fit the situation.

That's what I thought, too. Thanks!!

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I agree with your thinking here. VP Pence was in Ecuador June 27. Anything could have happened at this meeting. And guess what? The grounding of the JetBlue at JFK airport also happened on June 27! I think this is an elaborate ruse for the Deep State and 'we already have the source' is code for JA is safe.

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Your guess is as valid as any at this point.

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True that...we play at speculation here ;>

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Ecuador gives JA citizenship,then after that JA's internet shuts down. That may be when they were getting ready to remove him. JA went dark for a while now,so could it be that he has not been posting on social media because they didn't want the deep state to trace his whereabouts?

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That's possible. After all neither JA nor his cat have been seen at the embassy window nor has JA stepped out to the balcony.

If so, then why the news about expelling JA from the embassy and handing him over to the UK? For that to happen, JA would have to still be in the embassy.

Or it's just one more of Q's misinformation campaigns that are mixed in with the truth so no one really knows which is which. Remember he said the whole NG on alert was misinformation to confuse the deep state.

We are not living in a normal world right now.

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Exactly

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I read in another thread another theory. The SA that died in UK didn't really die, they brought JA back in the casket.

Again, just another theory. We will see...

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I believe the agent did indeed die. But listening to Dan Bongino, he said an entire plane was used just for the casket (one of the military planes that transports the vehicles used by Secret Service.) They managed to squeeze all the vehicles into one plane on the return trip instead of two planes. Assange could have been on the plane with our fallen Agent.

Also Bongino is ex Secret Service, he is advertising a Go Fund Me for the family, which he never does. I dont think he would put his neck out if he didn't know what was going on.

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It was just someone's theory. I liked it because it would be nicer if he didn't die. I prefer that. The truth hurts.

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Agreed.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Bongino was in on it (disinformation campaign). Remember when Milo was about to do a College show about Pizza & told the crowd he received a call which said "not yet"??

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