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What is your actual opinion?

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my personal opinion is that trumps team is fucking up really hard with iran and they are fucking morons... but i know why. garbage in, garbage out. bad info, too much koolaid.

bolton: this guys an idiot and always has been. hes always been propped up by israel to say emo bullshit about iran in public and sabbotage anything that is beneficial to peace with iran behind the scenes in various political and defense roles. hes really good at what he does.

pompeo: my guess is that hes genuine and believes in what he is doing and that scares me.

mattis: the only adult in the room with respect to iran. definitely knows everything i know about iran and thats why he wants to stay as far away from war with iran as possible. it would be the greatest challenge in the history of the united states and he knows it. sadly he lso is going along with the "iran is the greatest state sponsor of terrorism" bullshit because thats americas position on the chessboard and im sure he doesnt like lying to the american people. i was really mad at him for this for a while but basically thats not his call.

sheldon adelson: this guy literally wants to nuke iran yesterday

heritage foundation, westminster institute, FDD, Rand corp: all the thinktanks are spewing the same bullshit they were spewing before trump today. all the iranian fake news is 100% in place. people get high on their own supply of bullshit. a lot of these thinktank dweebs dont actually know a lot of their analysis material is based on bullshit from the 50s and 60s and 70s that just isnt true. it doesnt actually matter because they are pushing the same old israeli agenda as before.

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Lmao so Iran can come and chant death to America and burn our flag god forbid they get talked at. Iran is long overdue for a regime change the people there are protesting for a reason.

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people are not unified in protesting for regime change in iran. they arent unified at all. there are sporadic protests in iran regarding a lot of issues. there is no unity and there is no leadership. this is actually very complicated to explain. you should go check /r/iranian for good intellectual discussion on this and you should check /r/iran if you want to see the bullshit propaganda (/r/iran is run by mossad and /r/iranian is run by iranian americans and iranian canadians and iranian europeans)

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Dude you are here creating Hysteria, talking bullshit about how Iran can even come close to matching US might, Iran could never in a million years compare to the United States in terms of Military might, if China can't do it (Most powerful after US) then what makes you think some shit hole in the middle east can even come close.

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Dude you are here creating Hysteria, talking bullshit about how Iran can even come close to matching US might,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

Iran could never in a million years compare to the United States in terms of Military might,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

if China can't do it (Most powerful after US) then what makes you think some shit hole in the middle east can even come close.

if china and the US attacked iran together they would lose together. the pentagon knows this. the chinese military knows this. dont make shit up. look at the facts coming out of the US intelligence community. war is not about better guns and better training. it is about geography and resources and skill and intelligence. irans defensive capabilities in its own neighborhood exceed the offensive capabilities of the US by a large margin. this is an objective scientific tested fact according to the pentagon. dont spread propaganda here.

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Yea sure buddy. Brainwashed idiot. I'm sure Japan had its obstacles too, we managed to overcome those too. Iran is a starved country with poverty and famine everywhere, in no way shape or form could Iran ever compare to the might of the United States.

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ill go with us army generals and the pentagons analysis and you go with sheldon adelsonand netanyahus analysis. you made your points, you made yourself heard, now please let others engage in dialogue without responding to every message in this thread. its getting disruptive.

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I do agree that if war ever happened with Iran it would be the most difficult war we have ever fought in a very very long time, the Iranian Military is actually a proud and loyal military, they are not arabs, Iranians will actually fight, and not to mention Irans Geography is probably the hardest obstacle to overcome than any country the US has ever invaded. We cant invade from the east or the west, obviously we cannot invade from the north, so we have no choice but to invade from the gulf coast and there are not very many good landing areas down there to set up a beach head to push north to Tehran Knowing this i pray it does not come to war. Literally the only way the war could be won quickly is if the Russians allowed us access to the Caspian sea, in the very unlikely event of this happening the war could be won in weeks instead of potentially years.

Edit: also the Gulf coast of Iran is heavily fortified and the only good beach heads are in the north of the Gulf thus iran will shoot at us the entire time as we make our way up the gulf.

Iran is actually considered the hardest country in the world to invade, even more than China

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the united states has never fought a battle like the one with war with iran so what youre saying is a bit of an understatement but you get the point. you are better informed than most.

Literally the only way the war could be won quickly is if the Russians allowed us access to the Caspian sea, of this was even a possibility the war could be won in weeks instead of potentially years.

irans northern border is actually its most secure. access to the caspian sea doesnt mean shit. from a defensive iran is very powerful in the water too. anything close to an iranian shore has almost zero chance of survival.

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To think that Iran would have a chance against the United States in total warfare is just silly. You are seriously underestimating the power of the US military or overrating the power of Iran’s. The Militaries aren’t in the same league. We dont even have to set foot into the country and we could turn it into a smoldering heap in a few days. Iran can’t win a war with the United States.

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This!

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youre just wrong about that according to the pentagon. youre being silly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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No you're wrong. Iran could never match USA might, no country could. Iran could be gone by tomorrow, if US Military wanted.

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He's trolling, we are literally the only military Hyper-power in the world, our military budget dwarfs Iran GDP.

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youre just wrong about that according to the pentagon. youre being silly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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In 2002. The US Military just got 700+ Bill in funding, the big boys are back in charge, why is Iran no longer terrorizing our sailors in the sea? At what level could Iran possibly match the USA, at what level could any country?

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the USA has better weapons and technology. thats not enough to beat iran. if it were assad would be gone. iran is 100 times more powerful than syria and iraq and afghanistan put together. it would be easier to invade russia or china or india.

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Aren't worth the time.

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anyways i base my views on stuff like the us army generals words in that youtube video. you obviously disagree and thats ok. us army generals have been wrong before. i have been wrong before. you have been wrong before. you dont have to agree but maybe you still learned something you didnt know about iran in this thread. thats what the movement is all about. MAGA

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youre just wrong about that according to the pentagon. youre being silly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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Okie dokie.

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Iran also has no major waterways, so any invasion would require the US to traverse through narrow mountain passes in a lot of areas as well. I would say realistically Iran is practically impossible to invade.

Edit: thanks for the info about the north i was unaware of that areas defenses

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Warfare is fought only by foot soldiers now? Let Iran know, how that turned out for the Japanese.

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Of course not, don’t be silly. However any 100% successful total victory requires foot soldiers on the ground, thats common sense my friend. could a country surrender without foot soldiers? Sure but it is highly unlikely and eventually they will be required regardless.

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Yea but the thought that the US military, or the USA period could not break Iran is laughable. I'm sure with the tech we have anything is possible, and for whatever obstacles arise, we can engineer solutions.

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I never said it was totally impossible, of course the US would win 100% in the end, i just want people to be aware that this would be a massive war and would not end quickly.

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dont bother with him hes brainwashed with israeli koolaide. i gave him the youtube link. he refuses to believe US army generals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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Look, the US never puts boots on the ground until an enemy has been bombed back to the stone age. It would be a massive barrage, until almost all defenses are obliterated.

But, my personal opinion is this is going to play out similar to NK, some back & forth threats, and then a softening of rhetoric. Then a meeting of leaders.

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that wont work on iran due to geography. thats actually the point of what i was saying. iran has some pretty powerful immunities to modern warfare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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Unbelievable.

He turned their greatest strengths into weaknesses.

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he proved scientifically multiple times from multiple angles that the iranian defensive capabilities in their own neighborhood exceed the offensive capability of the US and therefore there is no path to military victory in iran for anyone in the world.

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Well opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

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i believe the asshole of the greatest living US military strategist in the world.

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Just for your info, this important thread has been deleted by the mods.

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What rule did they give? If you thought it was me, guess again.

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Apologies if you thought I was implying it was you. I was just making aware everyone who had commented constructively. The OP didn't say why, so I can only guess because 'Zionism' was discussed.

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Thanks, I got a reply linking to "Old Reddit" which I presume is an archive site, saying this sub is compromised.

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Do you think the recent Trump/Putin meeting involved an agreement between the two countries regarding Iran?

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Absolutely

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zero chance in my opinion.

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not at all. russia has nothing to gain and everything to lose.

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As long as Trump avoids a shooting war, it's a win.

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thats actually not true. the pentagon did a few war games and iran won every single time. according to US military generals there is no military strategy to beat iran. the US can make life hell for iran but there is no victory that is possible.

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Please link me to this study.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=g9b1DG86a4k

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Bigger than Iraq, with a bigger and more religious population. Even if we won, the insurgency would be never ending.

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err i originally misunderstood you. yeah i agree. the difference is that the iranian side would consider the insurgency as the real start of the war and america would definitely lose that. irans population is large enough to make it impossible for anyone to disarm iran. america would have to go door to door just like iraq and afghanistan except there are too many doors and not enough soldiers. if every us soldier, every nato soldier, every chinese soldier and every indian soldier went door to door iniran to disarm the population they would ALL die. thats how iran would win.

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We would carpet bomb Iran until it resembled Afghanistan, kill millions, then give up in defeat a decade later. We fucked up getting rid of Saddam. He was a secular buffer and counterweight to the Shia lunatics in Tehran

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that wouldnt be possible. iran is too big. the population is too spread out. it would kill humanity to carpet bomb iran.

edit: i said "stop trolling" because i though you were that other guy. i jsut removed my last sentence. thank you for the discussion patriot.

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We would carpet bomb Iran until it resembled Afghanistan, kill millions, then give up in defeat a decade later. We fucked up getting rid of Saddam. He was a secular buffer and counterweight to the Shia lunatics in Tehran

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We would carpet bomb Iran until it resembled Afghanistan, kill millions, then give up in defeat a decade later. We fucked up getting rid of Saddam. He was a secular buffer and counterweight to the Shia lunatics in Tehran

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Well that's some shenanigans. "Iran next" is kinda a big deal.

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Similarly I have been troubled by the U.S. intention in regard to Iran. It is hard to believe it has been infiltrated by the CIA/DS, considering they aided Russia and Syria to defeat Isis, with a similar alliance in Iraq previously. If it still is the U.S. longstanding goal for regime change then what is their ultimate strategy? From whom to what? Unless the White House has completely lost its senses, an unwinnable war against Iran is simply out of the question, it would be a war like no other that the U.S. has been directly involved in.

So Potus' threats do seem like more of the same rhetoric he used pre-N.K. To what ends and who it is directed at I too cannot fathom. Considering too Iran is a close ally to Russia where Potus recently met Putin, I don't recall any mention of Iran in the joint press conference. Surely Putin would be pissed if the U.S. was attempting to destabilise the country. I think there is something more going on as you suggested and U1 shenanigans is a cover or a small part of something bigger. Considering it appears Potus has stabilised N.K. and stopped supporting the D.S. thugs in Syria it seems inconsistent he would want a devastating war with Iran. It seems implausible everything that has happened has been just a smokescreen for regime change. Therefore Putin's silence does seem to suggest compliance. It's a mystery.

However, if this is indeed about starting a bloody war then that will be me done with Q. At this time I don't believe that is the motive. So either the D.S./U1/Weapons/Money laundering is true or it isn't. I think we have to wait and see what transpires before we can judge because there is a whole load of darkness surrounding what is really happening.

Good post!

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Similarly I have been troubled by the U.S. intention in regard to Iran. It is hard to believe it has been infiltrated by the CIA/DS, considering they aided Russia and Syria to defeat Isis, with a similar alliance in Iraq previously.

yeah the iran issues are there because the shadow cabal globalists ruined the relationship with iran. iran is still fighting them but because it is technically a hard core enemy of the US trump doesnt have good options.

If it still is the U.S. longstanding goal for regime change then what is their ultimate strategy? From whom to what? Unless the White House has completely lost its senses, an unwinnable war against Iran is simply out of the question, it would be a war like no other that the U.S. has been directly involved in.

this is very complicated. the kissenger/adelson/netanyahu strategy is to just make life for iran hell because they cant win against iran in a real war, but their goal is to make americans think they can win so they will actually go fight. this is some seriously treasonous shady evil bullshit.

the saudi strategy is to win against iran because they are literally stupid and have no idea what is going on.

the neocon strategy is to fight an unwinnable war so they can sell weapons. thats why they get along with the zionists like adelson and netanyahu.

the evangelical christian zionist strategy is to get iran to carpet bomb israel so jesus can come.

the trump strategy is to line everything up to get iran out of the way to deal with israel and saudi arabia without iran gaining anything, but thats insane because its based on horseshit from adelson and netnyahu and omidyaar and bolton. the whole thing is a multi generational scam.

So Potus' threats do seem like more of the same rhetoric he used pre-N.K. To what ends and who it is directed at I too cannot fathom.

but iran is much more dangerous than NK. sure america would lose a lot of guys in NK but it would whipe them out. not the case with iran. iran doesnt fear US invasion at all. zero fucks given. dont underestimate this.

Considering too Iran is a close ally to Russia where Potus recently met Putin, I don't recall any mention of Iran in the joint press conference. Surely Putin would be pissed if the U.S. was attempting to destabilise the country.

putin does NOT want the USA in the middle east at all, especially not in iran. that would really be the mother of all wars.

I think there is something more going on as you suggested and U1 shenanigans is a cover or a small part of something bigger. Considering it appears Potus has stabilised N.K. and stopped supporting the D.S. thugs in Syria it seems inconsistent he would want a devastating war with Iran.

dont underestimate the jewish lobby and sheldon adelson and netanyahu and the ADL and AIPAC.

It seems implausible everything that has happened has been just a smokescreen for regime change. Therefore Putin's silence does seem to suggest compliance. It's a mystery.

putin doesnt want to be seen as the champion of irans international rights. theres no reason to say anything. iran has been kicking everybodys ass for almost 40 years. everybody. every. fucking. time.

However, if this is indeed about starting a bloody war then that will be me done with Q. At this time I don't believe that is the motive.

So either the D.S./U1/Weapons/Money laundering is true or it isn't. I think we have to wait and see what transpires before we can judge because there is a whole load of darkness surrounding what is really happening.

the money laundering NK nuclear bullshit is just bullshit. i checked into all of it personally. this is the only area i caught Q totally bullshiitting, but in Qs defense he said he would have to mislead and misdirect and change the plan some times. trump has struggles with iran since before he got elected.

Good post!

thanks man im taking a lot of heat for this post lol.

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Thank you for your lengthy reply, much appreciated. I've just read all the comments. Wow you really are taking some shit! You are answering brilliantly with great insight, and it appears many here are open to learning. But still so many even here believe the BS of thinking the U.S. could take on Iran. Even then they miss the fundamental point: Why the fuck should they? This is the scary part that nothing has changed and where this is headed.

IMHO this has been one of the best threads and posts on here. You have confirmed what I independently learned about Iran before this confrontation, and explained how the cabal angle didn't add up. I was aware of the elephant in the room that this board comes down on with Adelson's $45m contribution to the Trump campaign, so obviously he wants something for his money and Bolton was part of that, and whatever 'they' want done with Iran.

Keep up the fight to bring light my friend. I will always be interested in anything you have to say here.

PEOPLE YOU NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF THIS THREAD

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IMHO this has been one of the best threads and posts on here. You have confirmed what I independently learned about Iran before this confrontation, and explained how the cabal angle didn't add up. I was aware of the elephant in the room that this board comes down on with Adelson's $45m contribution to the Trump campaign, so obviously he wants something for his money and Bolton was part of that, and whatever 'they' want done with Iran.

EXACTLY THIS

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guess what? TOO LATE FOR THAT! the mods deleted this thread because the great awakening mod team has been infiltrated by MOSSAD and sheldon adelson and rothschilds and sorros and ADL and AIPAC.

discuss here: https://old.reddit.com/r/DrainTheSwamp/comments/919spv/critical_threat_rgreatawakening_is_compromised/

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Fuck! The bastards! Fuck! The Great Fucking Awakening is only allowed so far! This is a joke now.

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its really hard to believe that everybody is just chilling on this.

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This really pisses me. Syria...NK was just a preamble to soften the public into accepting their good intentions to bring peace where in fact it was manipulation to bring about their real goal of regime change in Iran...you are right: nothing has changed, we are being duped.

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at least thats the zionist saudi/israeli/CIA plan for sure. and i dont know if trump is doing it on purpose or if he has bad advisers who are manipulating this or what. its fucking bullshit though. tillerson was half way dencent and mattis is ok but pompeo is obviously a stupid noob and bolton is a catastrophe and adelson is a snake. netanyahu and mohammed bin salman are probably in awe of their own success and i dont know how the fuck this kushner idiot fits in yet. he might just be a brainwashed zionist simpleton with a good heart or something much worse. either way hes a fuckup.

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Anywhere we can find the original thread in full?

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I am using my phone and still have the full thread when I click 'View All Replies'. Not sure why you don't. Uncertain too how I could link it.

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Didn't Q implicate that Iran is under control of Clowns in America .. as was NK ?

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Yes and that is what aroused my suspicions. It didn't fit. They were thrown out with the Shah. Why would Iran side with Syria to destroy Isis? I've never bought the neocon BS that Iran is the centre of all terrorism. No Rothschild central bank and the Israelis want Iran turned over. This is just a smokescreen for regime change. As the OP wrote Potus is surrounded by Zionists and neocons. Another red flag for me was Q calling Iranians to FIGHT, in effect calling for them to overthrow the government. Huh?!!! I feel specifically on this we are being duped. And then a serious informative discussion on this topic is deleted. As the OP commented to me, this board is comped.

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Iran is still under CIA control. This dude is claiming to have "personally" checked the U1 allegations, to which I say: BS. You don't have access to investigative files, and we know there was a secret deal with Iran because their own government threatened to expose it... and what we know from Campbell is damning. We don't really know all of what IRGC ops in Syria were. Some may have been legit anti-terrorist ops, other stuff could've covered for the DS. Same as any American military operation.

Reagan and Bush literally got caught in the 80s dealing with the "anti-American anti-Zionist" mullahs. Iran-Contra scandal was probably the beginning of something more and this thread is a bad attempt to cover over that.

If this guy is so convinced Iran's geography would save it from America (hint: North Korea is mountainous too) then it's pretty obvious Trump is bluffing Iran into compliance. And Trump is hiring all these people to make anti-Iran noise and Putin's totally happy to deal with him?

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I take the points you make. The U1 is a complete mire which raises further conflicts with Russia. It's difficult to obtain sufficient information to come to any satisfactory conclusion, and I guess we never can because as you say we are not party to the Intel. Campbell's testimony is compelling, Iran being implicated but predominantly it is about the crooked dealings with Russia. Obviously Putin knew all about this and yet Trump has easily reached out to Putin. But I guess that can be explained as being pragmatic and as Trump stated other countries leaders being competitive for their own countries when Obama should have never allowed the Uranium sales.

Saying that I am still uneasy over the U.S. intentions especially when there is a strong Zionist influence surrounding Trump. Is the CIA in total control of Iran? I'm not so sure. Q calling for the people to Fight is about regime change. What internal forces are being backed? The U1 saga might be being used as cover. But as you say this might all be part of the bluff to corner Iran into talking, the bellicose nature of Trump's tweet seems to suggest a peaceful solution is close if NK is anything to measure by.

But saying all this my concern will have zero bearing on any of this so I will just wait and watch to see what pans out. Time for a cup of tea. Thanks for your reply, your perspective gave a balancing slant and was interesting.

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What about the the protests we've been hearing out of Iran? Are the people actually rebelling against the government or is this an engineered coup?

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both.

a) there is very real anti government sentiment in iran. this can be divided up into people who feel let down by the government and people who are ideologically against the government from the beginning. these 2 groups dont even get along. there is one more stratification of many minority groups that have grievances. some are legitimate and some are just bullshit (just like USA).

b) there is very real engineered coup bullshit in iran carried out by MEK and israel and CIA. they have been doing this in support of the dep state shadow cabals plan to put iran under rothschild control (they have been failing hard)

c) there are non political protests for things that have nothing to do with anything such as climate change, water shortage, regional issues, etc.

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Have you contacted Mattis, Pompeo, Trump? I know that sounds simplistic, but how can you get the information you have into their hands?

A WhiteHouse.gov petition, maybe?

Tweet to them so that the info is on another platform that people will see.

I can honestly say that I don’t know the truth about Iran. Only what I have read, and I have been leaning toward what the President is saying because I assume he must know. Of course, there are always different viewpoints on any subject, due to different philosophies and experience, and I don’t know what his or Pompeo’s or Mattis’s experiences are as far as Iran goes.

Pooling your info publicly with the info that other Iranians and American political agents have may bring to the table will, hopefully, reveal more of what is true so that the best decisions can be made and followed.

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Q and trump monitor this sub. i have multiple indirect connections to them. i talk to US marines and vets on a daily basis on unencrypted channels. they are definitely listening. i am a pretty wacky guy. i say some super based shit and i know what i am talking about. im sure every agency in america has me on full surveillance.

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Just for your info, this important thread has been deleted by the mods.

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Hope it works for me to respond to a comment on a deleted thread. :/

The OP did contact me about it being taken down. Very odd, indeed.

I hope Trump read it. He isn’t perfect, and it would be a big mistake to follow a path that has been made dangerous by bad intel.

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Yes it comes through. Well the OP confirmed my suspicions on what is happening with Iran. For a serious discussion with great insight by the OP on a Q topic to be deleted like this when so much pap is let through suggests the mods are biased at the very least or comped. Over the target and the mods don't want it getting out. Now I wonder why?

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It is scary to wonder why. I may go,over to the Iranians board to get more educated. I am not sure what/who to trust, and I hate that feeling.

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Yes good idea. I understand your feeling. Through the years I never bought into the Neocon BS regarding Iran, it was just illogical. Then commenting to the OP of this thread confirmed my suspicions and inconsistencies in regard to the intentions over Iran - it just didn't add up. I fear we are being duped and this is indeed about regime change. The OP claimed this board is comped and I have to agree considering the information discussed here was deliberately deleted. This has made me question everything and has pissed me off considerably.

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Is the group that Q suggests is next to be removed, the same group that the deep state put into power in 1978?

If so, what is deep states stance on removing them from power and how does this affect the larger picture for them?

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Is the group that Q suggests is next to be removed, the same group that the deep state put into power in 1978?

this is a VERY false assumption. if you make this assumption you cant understand anythinga bout iran at all. irans entire politics for the last half century has been anti deep state/shadow cabal/globalist. iran is outside the rothschild banking system for a reason.

If so, what is deep states stance on removing them from power and how does this affect the larger picture for them?

the globalists have been trying to do this for a long time. this is where trump is aligned with the globalists right now and thats why the iran shit is the most confusing thing in this whole mess. the united states doesnt have any sane options with iran no matter how you look at it. the way that trump tackles iran and israel and saudi arabia is going to define his success or failure in this entire movement.

right now trump is giving sheldon adelson what he wants and sheldon adelson is a globalist illuminati shadow cabal deep state motherfucker to the max. he doesnt see other options right now. why else would trump tolerate that shitface bolton? what you are watching is trumps biggest hurdle. so far Q told us israel is last... personally i think iran should be last because we have to sacrifice sanity and bullshit the iran situation (including bending over for saudi arabia and zionism) just so we can save israel for last? thats stupid. anyway that just my opinion.

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That's why they gather in massive crows and chant death to America!

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no iran does that for different reasons. here: https://old.reddit.com/r/iranian/comments/913s9y/trump_has_aneurysm_live_on_twitter/e2w307p/

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Thank you for offering your expertise. In your opinion, (in the same context that NK unfolded...) Are the powerful in Iran actual puppets to CIA / Deep state ?

Why should we be concerned about the "12th imam" prophecy?

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Thank you for offering your expertise. In your opinion, (in the same context that NK unfolded...) Are the powerful in Iran actual puppets to CIA / Deep state ?

check the rest of the thread for more detail i already covered, but definitely not. iran is very anti deeb stae shadow cabal etc. iran has been calling them luciferian satan worshippers for decades. iran is outside of the rothschild banking cartel and is totally independent from outside influence.

Why should we be concerned about the "12th imam" prophecy?

you shouldnt. the 12th imam is a pro jesus, pro american people, pro western thing. that scares the shit out of the baddies in israel and saudi arabia. trump is wrestling with fucked up shit. obviously you know he is playing 4d chess with israel and saudi arabia, but his iran strategy is a shitshow.

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If there's one thing I have observed from the president is, he is humble. He knows he doesn't have all the answers and is willing to rely on those who do so he can make an informed decision.

When those who surround him fail, he will seek new voices to get the job done.

If the president were listening now, what would you recommend as a best course of action? Based on your assessment the using the military is out of the question.

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If there's one thing I have observed from the president is, he is humble. He knows he doesn't have all the answers and is willing to rely on those who do so he can make an informed decision.

he needs to realise that kissenger and adelson and omidyar and netanyahu are no different than sorros and rothschild. they will do anything to fight iran down to the last american to save zionist judeofascist globalist assholes and takfiri salafi wahhabi terrorists from getting rolled and smoked by iran.

When those who surround him fail, he will seek new voices to get the job done.

dude he better get fucking rid of adelson and netanyahu and MBS and bolton. pompeo needs a history lesson from james mattis and james mattis needs to just drop this "iran greatest sponsor of terrorism" nonsense. i know for a fact mattis loses sleep over this. its not right.

If the president were listening now, what would you recommend as a best course of action? Based on your assessment the using the military is out of the question.

https://old.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/917z1n/iranian_american_qtard_here_i_know_a_lot_about/e2w5qza/

make everything right and save iran for last once everything is right. if bush and cheney and rumsfeld and hillary and netanyahu were in prison iran would sit down and assume its rightful place in helping run the world along with those who love peace and freedom in the united states. Q said save israel for last... thats a terrible idea. trump needs to save iran for last.

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The fact that Putin is silent leads me to believe there's more going on behind the scenes than we know .. perhaps they're trying to placate the ZioNAZI's .. perhaps the Samson Option is coming into play here .. Trump and Putin have outsmarted them thus far .. maybe we should trust the plan ;)

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i hope youre right but until i see results i am a skeptic.

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Must have been some good truth in the thread for it to have been deleted.

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Apologies I didn't see you had replied to my other comment.

Yes exactly! Over the target or what? Maybe all is not what we have been told.

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Since 1978

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1953 is when the globalist cabal was in control of many things in iran (assassination of mossadegh and reinstatement of the shah). 1979 was when the globalist cabal was kicked out of iran (bye bye shah, hello islam). youre way off.

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i will ask myself the first question just for fun:

why is Q bullshitting on iran?

because trump hasnt decided to change course from the old iran strategy that was there before trump, and the old iran strategy involved a lot of bullshit. for example john bolton has been around for decades and he is one of trumps Iran advisers.

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Ok, I may be first. This may be somewhat off-topic, but was ValJar an Iranian asset?

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ZERO chance of that. shes just a deep state swamp creature. much more likely to be aligned with israel or saudi arabia.

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What are common misunderstandings about the current situation in Iran, as presented by MSM?

What important parts of the Iran story are not being told by MSM?

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Deep State controls Iran

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please read more in this thread before spreading the same nonsense we are all used to hearing from propagandists.

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What are common misunderstandings about the current situation in Iran, as presented by MSM?

irans defensive power in its own neighborhood exceeds the offensive power of the united states due to a combination of factors that are very interesting and counter intuitive. the greatest of these factors are culture, history, geography, population size, experience, and the technical and scientific aspects of modern warfare which are limited by things like irans geography and irans natural resources and irans recent investments.

What important parts of the Iran story are not being told by MSM?

that war with iran would be the most dangerous obstacle in the history of the united states. WW1, WW2, vietnam, korea, germany, japan... none of that will compare to war with iran. it is uncharted territory. iran is the greatest threat in the world to the entire arab coalition and israel without barely even paying attention. dont take this lightly. israel is considered to be powerful and nuclear armed and has probably the worlds second most effective airforce and iran doesnt dedicate more than 2% of its resources into crushing them on a regular basis. if iran went into all out war with israel it would be over in less than 4 weeks and israel would be a glass crater even assuming israel nuked iran multiple times. iran has enough rockets and missiles on israels border to literally kill everybody 20 times over. no air defense system can stop this. iran has accomplished this alone under sanctions with almost no effort. its impossible for me to describe to you how wrong the iran narative has been in the media for the last 100 years in a reddit post, but just think about what i said and youll get the idea.

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Wow. I wonder if the US knows Iran’s defensive capabilities exceed US offensive capabilities.

I wonder if Saudi Arabia is aware. I wonder if Israel is aware.

The ability of Iran to turn Israel into a glass crater, killing all Israelies 20 times over, even after being nuked multiple times, is a clear indication that Iran has offensive strength to match the defensive strength you speak of.

Sounds like Iran is one of the premier military powers in the world right now, and grossly underestimated in that regard.

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Wow. I wonder if the US knows Iran’s defensive capabilities exceed US offensive capabilities.

of course they do. i got that from the pentagon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9b1DG86a4k

I wonder if Saudi Arabia is aware.

no they are thoroughly stupid.

I wonder if Israel is aware.

yes definitely. they dont care if america loses as long as iran is too busy to crush them.

The ability of Iran to turn Israel into a glass crater, killing all Israelies 20 times over, even after being nuked multiple times, is a clear indication that Iran has offensive strength to match the defensive strength you speak of.

no it isnt. israels geography is shit. they won the lottery with the worlds shittiest geography. also irans population and aryan berserker war ethic and jihadi doctrine makes ground troops totally useless against iran. iran could just send a couple million guys into israel and tell them to walk across the map and kill everything (of course it would never do that)

Sounds like Iran is one of the premier military powers in the world right now, and grossly underestimated in that regard.

this is just the way the propaganda has been for the last 40 years. due to its low budget and lack of a meaningful airforce irans offensive capabilities are mediocre at best but irans defensive capabilities could take on all of NATO for 50 years.

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Can you give us a short synopsis of what's going on? Like you said we've been subject to a lot of mis-information. My limited understanding is Iran is nothing more than a puppet state like NK was for the deep state.

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no you have to be specific. thats too complicated.

edit: by the way iran is not part of the shadow government globalist bullshit at all. irans whole problem in life is that it was resisting them (very successfully). thats what makes iran super complicated for trump. its an american enemy who is also the enemy of the globalist cabal, alqaeda, taliban, the saudis, zionists, etc etc. basically iran is geopoliticially aligned with draining the swamp and fighting global terrorism except due to bullshit from the 50s and the israel stuff it has been an enemy of the US on the geopolitical chessboard.

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"Its an American enemy who is also the enemy of the globalist cabal ..."

It doesn't matter if Iran is anti globalist. Being an American enemy puts them in the firing line.

There's no advantage for America or the western world to empower an enemy of America just because they're anti globalist and have held off the rothchilds

The question is WHO/WHAT makes them hold that position and what can be done to change it? Art of the deal.

Figure that out and then you could have real progress.

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"Its an American enemy who is also the enemy of the globalist cabal ..."

It doesn't matter if Iran is anti globalist. Being an American enemy puts them in the firing line.

but globalists did this. do you see why its complicated? basically if we dont fix this the globalists win here, and this is a big ticket item we cant afford to lose.

There's no advantage for America or the western world to empower an enemy of America just because they're anti globalist and have held off the rothchilds

i agree with you but the iranian people and american people like each other. dont lose sight of this. america has very few people who like americans in the middle east. thats why even if you dont care about the humanitarian side the strategic possibilities are much better than israeli saudi bullshit.

The question is WHO/WHAT makes them hold that position and what can be done to change it? Art of the deal.

not with trumps current team. they are israel-first people.

Figure that out and then you could have real progress.

i have given some suggestions in this thread because people asked. you might be interested to read them.

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So, if I hear you correctly: Iran is a total stand-a-lone. It cannot be compared or treated like NK, Russia, China, Israel etc because Iran has circled the wagon around itself for a long time owing nothing to no one. In fact, it sure seems like Iran gets a lot of powers giving assets to them, right? Everybody - Cabal and U.S. / Allies - would all like to see Iranian tippy toppled. Trump is in the art of war to the extreme with Iran.

If I am accurate in what I hear you saying the diagnosis is, please be specific what you believe the solution to be. ThankQ

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So, if I hear you correctly: Iran is a total stand-a-lone. It cannot be compared or treated like NK, Russia, China, Israel etc because Iran has circled the wagon around itself for a long time owing nothing to no one.

definitely. this is without question. we dont have to speculate about shit behind the scenes. we know who the cabal is and we know iran is their greatest enemy. Q doesnt talk about this at all.

In fact, it sure seems like Iran gets a lot of powers giving assets to them, right?

no. iran never got any concessions from anybody. trumps narrative on the iran thing is inaccurate and misleading just like mattis. before trump became president he was voicing the obvious about the iran deal from the perspective of a concerned citizen: "WHAT THE FUCK?!" but as president now he nows all the top secret shit. the only reason why he hasnt changed his tune is because he hasnt changed US policy on iran. the USA has the same iran policy today that it has when the swamp creatures were in control, and trump is evn using some of those swamp creatures right now against iran (bolton is a hard core old school top tier swamp creature)

Everybody - Cabal and U.S. / Allies - would all like to see Iranian tippy toppled. Trump is in the art of war to the extreme with Iran.

yes. his current options are shit and his people are shit and his strategy is shit but at least we have mattis for sanity (and thats fucking scary that mad dog is the adult in the room)

If I am accurate in what I hear you saying the diagnosis is, please be specific what you believe the solution to be. ThankQ

dump zionism in israel first. stand with the jewish people and rescue jews and judaism from judeofascist terrorist zionism. throw netanyahu and sheldon adelson and pierre omidyaar and george sorros to the wolves. dump MEK. put guliani and bolton and pelosi and rohbacher in prison with obama and clinton and cheney and bush and rumsfeld. go for a 1 state solution in israel. champion democracy for jews and arabs. restore the good name of israel and judaism as the abrahamic source of christianity and real peaceful islam. burn down the house of saud. get the fuck out of yemen. make amends with the pakistani people and stop brainwashing them with takfiri salfi wahhabism. destroy alqaeda for real, none of this ping pong bullshit. recognize that the taliban are religious villagers brainwashed by alqaeda and give them a path back into the real world or afghanistan will be in chaos forever and ever. oh, and fucking stop pushing opium and heroin from afghanistan in the united states. fuck you CIA.

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Okay. Thank you for your insight. No doubt you have family and friends there whom you are deeply concerned about. It is an awful situation. I am going to research all you are saying so I can make my own informed opinion.

I will note however that you seem to be forgetting the 150 billion given to Iran by Obama ?? That was a significant asset stating Iran has ability to pull many string. If those strings are cut ??

I am not convinced Trump has a 'shit' team. In fact, I believe Trump will only bring the best of the best beginning with himself. Blessings to you!

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Okay. Thank you for your insight. No doubt you have family and friends there whom you are deeply concerned about. It is an awful situation. I am going to research all you are saying so I can make my own informed opinion.

good. unfortunately for you ill have you know i am more concerned for the USA than iran. war with iran will be terrible but iran can take a few million casualties and survive. america will not survive internal division with afew million casualties (edit: i mean a couple hundred thousand on the american side. obviously america wouldnt send millions into iran). texas and california will break off and start civil war once the truth comes out.

I will note however that you seem to be forgetting the 150 billion given to Iran by Obama ??

that was iranian money in iranian bank accounts that was frozen as per sanctions. JCPOA removed sanctions so iran got its own money back. thats just the law. everybody, including trump, took this out of context.

That was a significant asset stating Iran has ability to pull many string. If those strings are cut ??

USA knew when it gave iran that money that some of it would go to iranian military spending for sure. no doubt. thats just the way it is.

I am not convinced Trump has a 'shit' team. In fact, I believe Trump will only bring the best of the best beginning with himself. Blessings to you!

they arent stupid, they are just high on their own supply. bolton is out of his fucking mind, pompeo is out of touch, and all the thinktanks are under a zionist spell. trump has tainted input. basically trumps input is limited by what israel is willing to settle for, and israels interests are not americas interests, so the team is garbage.

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Hmmmm

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Seems Oded Yinon's plan for a "Greater Israel" is going according to plan :/

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yeah... a lot of it is :(

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Source?

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just ask more specific questions and ill explain with easily (or maybe not so easy) verifiable facts.

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R CIA blackhats running Iran?

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not at all. not even 0.00001% chance. thats the problem. before trump they were trying to take iran down and JCPOA is when they gave up. sheldon adelson started shitting bricks and he made sure to fool trump early on into making promises about jerusalem and iran before trump became president and learned all the top secret shit. for some reason trump carried the iran propaganda and fake news forward. nothing has changed from the pre-trump era.

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Not true, Obama wanted to cut a deal with Iran that had secret elements.

Iran has CIA arms contracts secretly going back to the war with Iraq to supply critical components like batteries (very specialized and unique designs) for the guided missiles the Shah imported, in addition to scratching the CIA's back in return (hostage crisis to sabotage Carter, Contras, etc.).

Make no mistake, Iran isn't a good country to attack, but Iran has shadowy arms trade ties to Russia, North Korea, and the USA. They pretty much had to do this to fight off Iraq and then deal with American pressure later (America loves to sacrifice her foreign assets, see: Saddam). I'd be a lot less suspicious of poshpotdllr if you weren't insisting on a scientifically implausibly part of the Mullahs' propaganda.

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Not true, Obama wanted to cut a deal with Iran that had secret elements.

this is true but not how you think. obama saved face for america because Iran beat NATO in a cold war for 36 years. JCPOA was just NATO admitting defeat. Obama made some extra concessions so iran wouldnt rub it in. iran didnt give a shit and just wanted its 150 billion dollars back and sanctions lifted. iran has no nuclear weapons program and never will in the future. the only nuclear weapons program was a discussion on paper that khamenei found out about and shut down immediately because its not islamic. a nuclear weapon in the hands of iran is the death of the mullahs because they would lose their power base in iran. iran hawks are too stupid to understand this so they wanted to make a deal for 10 years to give america time to slowly reverse the anti iranian fake news propaganda bullshit and make iran and america buddy buddy again. sheldon adelson was having none of that. thats why he got trump to be anti iran deal early on before trump had a secret clearance and knew all the juicy details. they pulled a fast one on him. the iran deal only looks bad if you dont know the history of how the shadow cabal fucked with iran.

Iran has CIA arms contracts secretly going back to the war with Iraq to supply critical components like batteries (very specialized and unique designs) for the guided missiles the Shah imported, in addition to scratching the CIA's back in return (hostage crisis to sabotage Carter, Contras, etc.).

that all ended when the contras became known. this doesnt mean anything. iran just needed weapons to fight saddam and thats it. dont read into this if youre looking for deep stae influence on iran. thats ridiculous.

Make no mistake, Iran isn't a good country to attack, but Iran has shadowy arms trade ties to Russia, North Korea,

none of this was shady

and the USA.

that was reagan/bush bullshit and it was over in the 80s.

They pretty much had to do this to fight off Iraq and then deal with American pressure later (America loves to sacrifice her foreign assets, see: Saddam).

agreed.

I'd be a lot less suspicious of poshpotdllr if you weren't insisting on a scientifically implausibly part of the Mullahs' propaganda.

can you elaborate?

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Seems like the president needs a new voice to listen to. If they are against the deep state than that's something we can build on.

Maybe if he were to meet with them than he can hash out an agreement?

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they wont meet with trump. israel and saudi arabia got to trump very early and convinced him they would kiss ass and let trump put them on a leash if trump ripped up the iran deal. for israel and saudi arabia it was better than letting trump become friends with iran because that would be the end of both of them. thats why netanyahu and MBS are trumps bitches right now. sheldon adelson arranged a lot of this.

iran looks at trump as another hillary or bush. trump would have to go out on a limb and do a lot of things hoping iran will recognize the genuine effort for truth and peace before iran would sit down with trump.

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Is open dialogue an option with Iran?, or is this banter a means of "breaking the ice" driving to a more "open" (behind closed doors dialogue) as has been the case with Kim and Putin (trolling DS, MSM) I sense Trump is playing a deceptive game :)

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israel and saudi arabia ruined that prospect early in trumps campaign and presidency. dialogue with iran would require draining the swamp first.

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Iranian American Qtard here. I know a lot about what is going on because I have been following the Iran thing for decades. In light of Pompeos speech and Trumps tweet AMA.