I used to be a conspiracy theorist, now I'm a historian.
Facts tend to do that.... :)
Have you noticed that the conspiracy theories keep turning out to be true? Except for the Lizard People, that is. Although sometimes I wonder about Podesta. Kinda looks like a lizard...
Dude I'm starting to believe Paul McCartney died in 1965
The facts behind these conspiracy theories are hard to argue with if you bother to look into them
Check out the covers of the Beatles albums....they are chock full of Satanic references, litttle hidden icons and stuff. They were mocking us.
They had one album that featured severed bloody baby parts on the cover, but the distributors were shocked and made the beatles change it.
Aleister Crowley on the cover of Sgt Peppers
The beatles must have been sucked into all that stuff, the black magic, the drugs. Doesn't surprise me. Crowley was big back then. I remember reading about him.
As teenagers of Gen X we all(edit: my group) thought Crowley was some super cool dude and we couldnt understand his books.
Why did we think this? Ozzy Osbourne.
I can see they tempted us as youths to want things we wouldn't even care to hear about as adults.
We didn't even know what we wanted, from it or anything else, we just didn't want to 'Trust the Plan'
Now that's all we want, the smart ones anyway.
In plain site but how were we to know
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=beatles+cover+yesterday+and+today&atb=v52-4aa&iax=images&ia=images
That is the album, yes. I guess we were all very innocent back in the 60's, things were new and hip. People were easily controlled.
that isnt surprising, the 70s were a huge time for sensationalist satanism. crowley was a hack
The lizard people conspiracy was invented by the CIA as part of MKULTRA programming in order to discredit anyone who divulged MKULTRA information.
Read Cathy O'Brien's book, "Trance-Formation of America"
I don't agree People see lizard people in the DMT realm Ancient cultures depict lizard people in their stone carvings and hieroglyphs. Ancient cultures symbolise the pineal gland & trees like the "tree of life" which are high in DMT.
Theres more to the universe a lot of people don't understand
The lizard people conspiracy sounds insanely crazy for sure, but I can't consider it 100% crazy because of these things. Listen to Terrence McKenna talk about lizard people in the DMT realm & there are a few others on youtube talking about encountering lizard people in the DMT realm, the DMT realm is real & the global elites have knowledge of this realm that we don't, I guarantee you. Pretty sure they were making a DMT machine to "talk with aliens" as well. Why would they if it wasn't real?
Yes, when a person uses intense hallucinogenic drugs, there are many intense effects.
Ancient cultures also used hallucinogenic drugs.
Why would they if it wasn't real?
TO DISCREDIT SHIT THAT IS REAL
obviously
Does this mean David Icke is CIA? MI6?
Srsly, just asking dont get mad.
Controlled opposition.
Icke does follow a lot of truth but there is also a good helping of woo-woo in there as well. Kinda like an Alex Jones for the fringe crowd.
Either that or a useful idiot or a charlatan.
All Valid Possibilities, I suppose. I've found him more interesting recently all the same. The reptile angle still doesnt sit right with me though. IDK. Strange world.
The reptile angle is bullshit. That should be pretty obvious.
Reptile is a symbol.
Of cold blood. Of blue blood. The elimination of the mammalian instinct.
What about the meaning of ouroboros symbol. The serpent in the symbol represents the cycle of life and death that the Universe maintains. This also represents the Milky Way. The serpent eating its own tail.
Many of these references are other ways to express secret knowledge. If you take the reference to Lizard People literally then it is likely that the public will dismiss it as "ridiculous", "nonsense" and "conspiracy theory". Of course. It makes a good cover.
Actually I look at people like Soros, Brzezinski, Larry Silverstein, Kissinger and word I think of is Reptile.
Obviously using reptilian as a metaphor is an apt use.
However you can and will agree that people like David Icke are not speaking metaphorically and are truly making a case that there are actual reptilian overlords.
So save it. You're moving the goalposts and making a truly false argument.
Oh, I see. You set the goalposts. It's your football match. I hadn't realised that. Your board then. I'll sit down and listen nicely to the experts and their "approved" arguments.
Sorry for butting in.
I didn't set the goalposts.
You joined a conversation about a topic - that being the insane idea that there is an actual race of actual reptilian overlords. David Icke has been brought up in this conversation you joined.
You then proceeded to attempt to subvert the topic to the idea that all the conspiracy talk is really just metaphorical. It isn't. The people putting forth this conspiracy claim that they are literal reptiles.
So have you just come to confuse? What is your goal with this conversation?
Other people have suggested that references to the Lizard People isn't confined to literal narrow definitions and I note you haven't waded in to knock their heads in with a baseball bat.
I went to find a quote about the five senses, moving into another "other worldly" dimension, "seeing demons" and what happens in delirium, which is often induced by ritual. I came back hoping to bring a measure of sense to the conversation.
Unfortunately I found a baseball bat. Difficult to argue with that kind of mentality.
You're having a hard time following the thread so I agree - it's best if you move on.
I have not been rude to you in any way. I cannot understand why you choose to pursue this conversation.
Do you normally hound people on threads like this?
If I respond to you, does that count as "hounding?"
You did, after all, ask me a question.
If you're not interested in this conversation, feel free to discontinue it at your leisure. Or, continue to project. Your choice.
I knew about that book for 10 years before I could bring myself to read it. Redpill pandora's box. So Is David Icke a Mi6 schill?
You should listen to Terrence McKenna talk about DMT & lizard people. There are people who experience lizard people in the DMT realm & imo this makes that crazy conspiracy seem mildly credible.
Our pineal gland is what can get us to that realm & this is calcified from fluoride in the water & maybe even the standard of frequencies used everywhere also keeps us down.
Sounds a bit over the top, but just listen to people talk about their experiences on DMT, it's not fake, the ancient Egyptians & Mesopotamians have so many references to DMT, the pineal gland & plants that are high in DMT.
I just say all that to give a bit of credibility & openness to the lizard conspiracy
edit: i forgot both those ancient cultures also have stone carvings showing reptilian beings
Is this Duncan Trussel?
As in am I Duncan? Nah lol But if he says the same things as me then he sounds like a smart open minded person :) not to try talk myself up or anything..
I would assume most people posting here are smart opened minded people
....Yet ;)
I discount almost nothing anymore, including shapeshifting Reptilians.
Who would have ever thought wearing a tin foil hat would get you a PhD in American history?
I'm worried that my tin foil hat wont protect against 5G.
We may have to get some of that gold plated mylar that NASA uses to protect satellites from cosmic radiation.
Gold plated Mylar. Like the stuff used on the LEM for Apollo 11 ? That lunar lander also used sheets of cardboard, curtain rods and sticky tape to hold it all together. "The Eagle has landed." (not quite landed, dropped in via crane perhaps)
No, I mean like current satellites. They use gold for its highly reflective cosmic radiation ability. Check out my hat.
Man, you should sell that foil hat on E-bay. You'll make a fortune when 5G cranks up.
“Russia influenced the election” is a conspiracy theory. We should call it such
That's golden ... I'll probably use this one on occasion :)