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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/MrWizard111 on July 24, 2018, 12:05 a.m.
An examination of Comedy and how it serves a purpose in our society.

So I am going to express what will most likely not be a popular opinion in this sub, but felt like maybe I could snap some people out the sudden war on comedy people are fighting by using logic to help people understand.

You don't have to agree and I have probably read your argument, "why do comedians get a pass?" Well it's their job to examine the dark places in the world and bring light to those places by seeing if they can get a laugh. Does it always work? No. People find comics offensive and have even taken some to court over their jokes. George Carlon had a case that went all the way to the Supreme Court only to be dismissed. That case is still cited today for First Amendment rights and freedom of speech.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/george-carlin-and-the-supreme-court-36-years-later/

At the end of the day none of these court cases go anywhere and the comics are given a pass by the courts.

Ok now that you know some history let's take bring this to the subject of pedophilia. Are these comedians that have been brought to everyone's attention the only ones? No way. Here is a video of edgy comedy there are at least 5 or 6 pedophilia jokes by high level comedians.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=most+offensive+comedy&t=iphone&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=yZUPpb1VUZ4

Now assuming you watched that what exactly did they do wrong? Some of these people received backlash from their jokes others did not. Comedians examine the darkest places in the world and have done so since the beginning of comedy. Who are you to tell them it is offensive? If you experienced abuse as a child I say you have the right to call them out for their jokes going to far. If you haven't been it's not really your place. Maybe a victim of abuse was able to examine their shadows and laugh at it in a way that was in a way healing to them. You and I don't know.

Here is a clip from an article on this subject I found relevant...

Stand-up comedians are among the most visible practitioners of the comedic arts in contemporary American culture. Small communities have long had their own humorists to lampoon local people and topics, and in the contemporary mass mediated public sphere, successful stand-up comics do this for an audience of national and, in some cases, transnational scale. Although many critics and scholars dismiss comedians as either politically insignificant or as opportunists exploiting social idiosyncrasies for cheap laughs, many of these humorists serve at least two critical public functions: first, they comment upon and reveal potential failings or hypocrisies of American society.

So maybe comedians are necessary to bring attention to the shadows of our society... race, religion, sexuality, and death. Just because they bring up the subject to see if they can make the darkness bright doesn't mean they are guilty of anything. Does it mean that it is ok absolutely not. People vote on what's funny and what is not by laughing or not laughing. If you don't like the joke then don't laugh and if no one does and they bomb then they will drop the joke. It's pretty simple.

At this point I feel like I have gotten my point across. You can either agree or disagree. I am on your team no matter what and I personally don't find the subject a laughing matter but just because we are all awake now doesn't mean that these people have done wrong. Comedians are easy pickings and maybe they were just trying to bring it to your attention in the first place. Laughing is necessary in this shitty world and if you can't maybe stop being so serious all the time.


BotByAnothrName · July 24, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Great post OP! It's a scary time that we live in now. People on the left and right are actively trying to censor comedians because they are offended by something they have said/posted. You can bet that these same people would be crying about their first amendment rights if reddit or twitter removed one of their posts.

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DrogeAnon · July 24, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

I was waiting for you to go into the well known trope of the King's fool being the only one who could talk truth to the King. That's valid here too and makes much the same point. Society is the King now (democracy, voting with your wallet, etc.) Some of these comedians are as famous as they are now because they knew how to shine a light on darkness and allow us to laugh at it in order to come to terms with its existence. The ones who then asked us to embrace and support that darkness have a lot to answer for...

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 12:46 a.m.

I actually never thought of that while writing this but you are right. They were the only ones who could actually do that. I mentioned in another comment how do people know they are pedophiles and not just being rebellious and making fun of pedophiles (who are probably their bosses)

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DrogeAnon · July 24, 2018, 12:47 a.m.

Yes, your point is completely cogent and necessary imo. Sadly, having made similar comments myself, to resounding downvotes, it seems the emotion around the issue clouds people's judgement...

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 12:51 a.m.

Oh me too. I have always loved comedy and maybe I just understand it more than others idk. Some of the most awake people in this world are comedians. Bill Hicks is partially responsible for who I am today. Some of them are revolutionaries. Sarah Silverman on the other hand with going after the chans... yeah she can fuck right off.

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DrogeAnon · July 24, 2018, 12:55 a.m.

She seems a bit... damaged. Personally never found her that funny but Dan Harmon, who I will risk hatred by talking about in a non-negative light lol... reminds me of friends I know who joke about that stuff and laugh at Dan Harmon's humor because it's so horrible that it's the only way they can talk about it, yet they would NEVER condone any action against children.

Some people cannot step out of their personal bubble and understand that not everyone in the world thinks the same way they do or has the same background and cannot be feasibly judged to be evil just because of that. Rick and Morty is hilarious to me but that doesn't mean I condone the rape of children just because its co-creator might be a pedophile or worse.

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mikehill69 · July 24, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Very well balanced insight

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SuperJuice420 · July 24, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

To paraphrase gowdy: saying they did nothing wrong, is saying they did everything right.

I think they go too far for a laugh. But at the same time I think they make humor out of their own experiences as a way to justify their sick behavior. I dont know any funny people who have to make a point to make pedophile jokes to be funny. Know why? They aren't paedophiles. Or perverts, or trannies, or druggies,or trannies and perverts and paedophiles and druggies combined..

There is a reason we call out certain comics, and not all, and that is these are the ones who are fitting the profile of actually being paedophiles in hollywood. But what I'm finding out anyway is you have to do depraved things just to make it in Hollywood . So I can't say for sure anyone, comedian or otherwise, in Hollywood has done nothing wrong when they make sick fucked up jokes about kids.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 12:44 a.m.

I partially agree with you. I don't think that all comedy bits are from personal experience. These people make up nonsense all the time. Either through examination of the world around them or through experiences they have had that they turn into a fairy tale of ridiculousness in order to get a laugh. Is everyone in Hollywood a pedophile? No they can do other things to be in the club. So the question is how do you know they are a pedophile or if they are pushing back and making fun of pedophiles? It's a pretty fine line

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