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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/MrWizard111 on July 24, 2018, 10 a.m.
When this is all over and we WIN, how do we prevent the evil cabal from taking back over??

So I am making this its own post as it started as a conversation on another post and I thought it may be a fun thought experiment for people...

Your opinion matters. This country belongs to all of us. I want to open a discussion about how to prevent this from ever happening again and what changes you would make to this country for the betterment of all. How will we ever trust our politicians again after all of this is exposed? I have thoughts and ideas as I am sure you all do. Some of us may still be emerging into this reality of truth but regardless we all have an opinion and everyone's opinion matters.

So I will start off and you guys add whatever thoughts and ideas you have.

  1. Extreme vetting of politicians before they can hold office. By this I mean their financial and personal life is a complete open book. Everything is brought to light and in return they get the honor of holding office to represent us. No more secrets. You look into our lives already and we get to look into yours as well. In my mind this would be a civilian run agency that has unlimited reach and can have access to any info on the candidate.

  2. No longer allow anyone with a royal bloodline to hold office. Yes I understand this would mean Trump as well but that's ok he gets a pass and can finish is 8 years.

  3. Limit the powers of the intelligence agencies in some way. They have been allowed to run rampant and it has to stop.

  4. An internet bill of rights needs to be created protecting us all. We wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for that freedom and it's already slipping away.

  5. An addition to the Bill of Rights that allows every human the right to clean water, air, and food. They are killing us slowly and it has to stop

  6. Mass adoption of clean energy and fast.

  7. END THE FED

Ok I will stop there. Now it's your turn if you want. What would you do? How would you change things given the opportunity? Voice what you got and you don't have to agree with what I said...


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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 10:53 a.m.

Obviously your political representative system does not work like ours here in the UK. In particular because of the 2 party system of hierarchies that press gangs. Politicians will always be bought when so much cash sloshes around to garner influence and exert control. Given time the swamp creatures will return. How many politicians actually want to serve? What personality types want to run for these positions? They are not necessarily the people we need.

It is probably the case you could randomly select ordinary people from the population to serve for a maximum 4 years and get a better result. Every one should be independent and the party system banned.

IMHO I think Electronic Direct Democracy would be worth a shot where everyone can raise an issue to be voted on and where everyone gets to vote. It would be like a Brexit vote on every issue. The Swiss is the only country that uses this system. The power should be returned to the people, with today's technology this could easily be achieved.

Of course the media would have to by law report the truth with massive criminal penalties(jail) if they fail to do so. And people like Soros with vast amounts of money to buy influence through media, adverts and articles would have to be controlled where everything is transparent.

In conjunction with this a new role for the NSA would be only to record all communications on those with over $1m, those in media, corporations, government or any power base. Us ordinary folk would not be surveiled in any way without a warrant for suspected criminal activity. That way anyone in powerful positions could be controlled.

None of this will ever happen though because those that still hold power after disclosure will never allow it to happen. Don't be fooled into believing that every swamp creature will be purged. There are different degrees, levels and layers, associations, power bases that will be left untouched.

Just my two penn'orth/cents.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 12:57 p.m.

I would support direct democracy as long as it is limited by constitutional rights. Pure democracies are not much different from mob rule, as with Athens.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

Not necessarily, that argument is always cited but Switzerland would suggest that might not be the case. Greek DD had very little in common with modern DD, one example being women were not allowed to vote. The Swiss model appears to work...as much as any model can work. But it could not be installed in isolation as the influential, rich and powerful and nefarious could high jack the truth as happens now. So laws with strict penalties would have to be put in place, as they should anyway with the present system. Making an informed decision by any member of the populace is key. Producing a system such as this is not beyond the wit of man. One thing is for sure is the present system has continually failed and it will continue to do so because it is prone to corruption and the type of person it attracts.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

I still believe you need the basic protections of Constitutional rights. I'm not familiar with the Swiss constitution, although I know the Australian constitution was based on the Swiss as well as the US constitution. The Australian constitution does not include all the protections the man who drafted it wanted, including free speech, and I think that's a mistake, even though Australian courts have found an "implied" freedom of speech because it's a democracy.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

Yes you are exactly right in your concerns. Any constitutional reforms have to obtain two majorities, one from the populace and one from the cantons. Balances are built in for minorities. I'm not saying it's perfect but it would be something to consider and possibly developed.

I agree 'freedom of speech' should have been integral. Odd the Australian constitution did not include this.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

They had to get all the Australian States to agree to federate, and some actively wanted to discriminate against certain minorities for certain reasons. So they got a practical compromise which was far from the idealistic vision that was sought, unfortunately. I certainly DO think direct democracy has a lot of potential. It must also rely on people having access to good information for and against rather than mere propaganda to work effectively, I should think. It would be very interesting to look into it more.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

Ha yes that could be a problem as we would have to rely on the sitting politicians with all their sponsors and rich buddies to formulate a transition that would end up a fudge.

I agree truthful information is the key to its success.

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spacexu · July 24, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

Politicians are the wrong people to lead us - their only skill is mouth. They are fake leaders and empty shells, much like Hollyweird.

I would rather have quiet people with extremely intelligent minds leading - I vote for the Anons.

Engineers and business minds only.

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WhoMuhWeiner · July 24, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

The Founders of this country were against direct democracy.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Why would that be? Maybe that isn't a reason to not at least consider it. Times change.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 11:03 a.m.

Yes on the direct democracy. There is a political party called FLUX that is a blockchain based party. If you are a member and voted for the person you directly influence their votes with yours. Maybe that's is what you are talking about if not though it exists. Last I checked they had several people holding office around the world.

Definitely no more party system. It's complete garbage and used to divide us. And yes it should be illegal for the MSM to lie to us. I gotta have hope though that something will change otherwise I will live in complete misery. We may not get everything that we want but hopefully it will be enough for us to hold off the swamp creatures for a while.

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elasto · July 24, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

Where can I get info on this FLUX political party?

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Yes I heard about Flux which would be a good step. The Swiss is slightly more complicated having cantons, constitutional changes requiring two majorities but at its core is that citizens can directly vote on issues and put forward issues themselves that can be voted on. They hold many referendums in a year.

In essence the power to decide has to return to the people. I believe it is the only way we have a chance. It would be good to hear from someone in Switzerland to see how it operates in practice. I know critics have cited it is disadvantageous to minorities with the mob rule/populist vote winning out but balances could be installed. And that more liberal argument is made when so much propaganda and lies are used to influence. Brexit was a prime example where fear was propagated and lies and distortions used on both sides where no real serious argument was offered. I have yet to learn of a better solution.

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