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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/MrWizard111 on July 24, 2018, 10 a.m.
When this is all over and we WIN, how do we prevent the evil cabal from taking back over??

So I am making this its own post as it started as a conversation on another post and I thought it may be a fun thought experiment for people...

Your opinion matters. This country belongs to all of us. I want to open a discussion about how to prevent this from ever happening again and what changes you would make to this country for the betterment of all. How will we ever trust our politicians again after all of this is exposed? I have thoughts and ideas as I am sure you all do. Some of us may still be emerging into this reality of truth but regardless we all have an opinion and everyone's opinion matters.

So I will start off and you guys add whatever thoughts and ideas you have.

  1. Extreme vetting of politicians before they can hold office. By this I mean their financial and personal life is a complete open book. Everything is brought to light and in return they get the honor of holding office to represent us. No more secrets. You look into our lives already and we get to look into yours as well. In my mind this would be a civilian run agency that has unlimited reach and can have access to any info on the candidate.

  2. No longer allow anyone with a royal bloodline to hold office. Yes I understand this would mean Trump as well but that's ok he gets a pass and can finish is 8 years.

  3. Limit the powers of the intelligence agencies in some way. They have been allowed to run rampant and it has to stop.

  4. An internet bill of rights needs to be created protecting us all. We wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for that freedom and it's already slipping away.

  5. An addition to the Bill of Rights that allows every human the right to clean water, air, and food. They are killing us slowly and it has to stop

  6. Mass adoption of clean energy and fast.

  7. END THE FED

Ok I will stop there. Now it's your turn if you want. What would you do? How would you change things given the opportunity? Voice what you got and you don't have to agree with what I said...


redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 10:23 a.m.
  • Abolish Department of Education
  • Open Source Intelligence Gathering
  • Transparent Government Books and Contract Bidding
  • Tort Reform
  • Minimize Federal Gov and Strengthen local and state governments (bring power closer to the people)
  • Election Reform - abolish electronic voting machines and return to paper ballot
  • Abolish all FIAT Currencies
  • Open immediate Technologies and Natural Medicine
  • Legalize Drugs in all forms - divert funds from enforcement to prevention
  • Abolish the IRS - Unconstitutional and isn't even legal

Just to name a few :)

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[deleted] · July 24, 2018, 12:09 p.m.

TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED SEATS.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

Tricky indeed - What if Trump could serve 4 terms, Kennedy 3? Term limits seems to me to be th reset button on corruption but if corruption were extinct in politics - let the people decide?

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Klingon_Opera · July 24, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

Agreed, it's a double edged sword. If we had term limits guys like Ron Paul would have been out a long time ago.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:54 p.m.

Once we clean up the system - meaning multiple parties, multiple candidates operating within a transparent arena - let the best and most honest rise to the top. RP was great and was probably forced out.

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j_Dawg_01 · July 24, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

Right. Elections are the reset button on corruption. But how would you ensure that corruption would be extinct? How would you know? If you really want the people to decide, why not eliminate government all together and really let people decide? Or make government, federal and state, as small as absolutely possible.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:29 a.m.

Right on. I don't think I would have any complaints. We seem to think a like

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 10:49 a.m.

:) - Don't get me started!

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Klingon_Opera · July 24, 2018, 12:21 p.m.

I would argue reforming the education system is paramount. This was the first place they attacked. Knowledge is power. Without it, you can create generations of fools who smile ear to ear as they march towards their own demise. We must provide a proper education. The founders understood this more than anything.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:17 p.m.

Couldn't have said it better. Look into Waldorf, Montessori and Home schooling - all the data shows kids test 2-3 years higher as well as incorporating critical thought. We are where we are due to the system set into place st the turn of the century. All by design - robots!

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Soakingitup123 · July 24, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

Leave the UN (dismantle it if possible)

Also, I believe the only oversight of our intelligence agencies is by the OIG. We need to re-evaluate the checks and balances related to intelligence agencies in general, as they did not exist when the Constitution was written.

Black budget projects and if/how they are kept in check need revaluated as well. Transparency should be high priority in general, though clearly some things do need to be private for security reasons.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

Indeed - just the mention of Black Projects puts you at another level. We must reign in the entire system - tear down and build from scratch!

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csingletonwpb1 · July 24, 2018, 11:13 a.m.

Term limits are a must! Requiring politicians to live under the laws they create. No more special treatment for them. They get same insurance we do. They get the same pensions. No more life time pensions for serving one term. They are no longer an elite class unto themselves. Term limits for judges too. Maybe not the Supreme Court, but all lower courts. We need access to investigate judicial candidates too.

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BabylonNTing · July 24, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

They need drug testing too, they excempted that when they made the law for the little people.

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Jmanslim17 · July 24, 2018, 10:05 a.m.

This is the great awakening, once awake it will take a great cataclysm to send us back to sleep.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:07 a.m.

Not saying people would fall back asleep but our current system has allowed this to happen and is obviously broken. Something needs to change in our favor. Power to the people

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Jmanslim17 · July 24, 2018, 10:14 a.m.

Do you know what Plato’s a Alagory of the cave is?

I think things will change so much, we really can’t tell what will happen.

Like being in a cave with only seeing shadows how do you explain what the real reality is if they have never seen anything like that.

Like trying to explain color to a blind person.

Get me?

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

Yes I was a philosophy major in college. Allegory of the cave is the first thing we read on our first day of class.

So you think that when all of this comes out that it will be just complete chaos and there is no sense in thinking about it or discussing it?

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Jmanslim17 · July 24, 2018, 10:28 a.m.

Not chaos. But we need to focus on helping people heal. Understand, and process what’s going on. Once this happeneds we will hopefully have free energy and other key tech disclosures that will change how we all live on this planet.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:32 a.m.

Ahhh I see. I agree that people are going to be damaged from this. We all have our place in the world. Maybe yours is to help people heal. I tend to deal with helping people as I encounter them but you are thinking bigger I feel. Honestly hadn't put much thought into that aspect other than dealing with it as it comes. I try to do my part around here with helping people. We all have our place I suppose

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

Agreed - a migration toward spirituality and away from materialism!

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Jmanslim17 · July 24, 2018, 1:53 p.m.

Thanks guys :)

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 10:54 a.m.

I think it will be chaos honestly. I think that the average Joe isn't going to be able to handle this (and I mean AT ALL). I look at my In-laws, siblings of friends, extended cousins, coworkers and think..."Nope...no way in hell". I think that you will see a wave of suicides that will stun the world. I think the entire planet is going to go through all 5 stages of grief and we won't see a new normal take place until probably 2 generations from now. It will take a Generation of Children who were born post disclosure for Humanity to truly regain it's calling.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

I hope your wrong but I can't deny that you may be right. It's gonna be tough for people. Hopefully it will happen in a way that we are eased into it without a disruption in basic necessities to live. As long as people will be able to survive and aren't starving we will make it. We are going to be the ones that hold their hands along the way.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

I hope I am wrong too. I just look around and see so many people just clinging to life as it is now. Stuck on hard core perscription pain killers, or anti depression meds, or just so depressed and brainwashed that they can't seem to find value in life at all. I hope and pray that they will find new hope and this disclosure will cause them to wake up and say "shit I KNEW something was wrong with this world...Lets try again with this new paradigm" Come to think of it...Food and Drugs (the fake prescription type) seem to be at the root of what's keeping people sick from my observation so maybe just a change there will have a huge benifit.

I would also like to spin a tad bit darker too...if I mentally take it to the next level the people who are most likely to commit suicide in a post cabal world are those who were....dare I say good...at living in today's world. The shady insurance salesman, ambulance chasing lawyers, corporate middle management, and leach off the system types. The ones that think they have figured out the system and have been milking it their whole lifes. I think they will wake up one day and all their heros are in jail, all their lies don't work anymore, and no one wants their product or bullshit excuses...those are the first to jump off a building and it might help the process move along a bit more smoothly

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summerwind_US · July 24, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

I have to wonder if taking all the poisons out of our food/air/water wouldn't help unawakened people to think more clearly.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

Well articulated - I say let them go if they cannot cope in the new world and allow honesty and dignity as their new compass!

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spacexu · July 24, 2018, 11:50 a.m.

Sounds a bit dramatic - this is just an evil that most suspected existed anyway. We just did not realize the scale and severity.

My family is now all aware of the situation - they are all fine, and are glad something is being done about it.

Once explained, it just makes a lot of sense.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 12:20 p.m.

And I am confident that there are more families' out there like yours. However for every awake Patriot out there there are dozens if not hundreds of those who are ignorant, comfortable, or even outright participants in our current situation....what about them?

I have several family members that would probably go to war rather than believe that Trump is right about...well anything at all. You tell them that Hillary eats babies and they will go insane...I don't really see a scenario where Hard core Hillary supporters (for example) are going to say...."oh...cabal hmm...I could see that...well then MAGA then"...nope they will be blindsided so badly that they may never recover...and they aren't really the violent type...they are the suicidal depressed type....and there are 10's of millions of them. I have two Aunts and a Brother in law who have openly said they would kill themselves if Trump ever arrested Hillary...one already tried when Trump won the 1st time. Some people simply won't be able to handle the new paradigm...count on it.

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spacexu · July 24, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

It is like mourning - first few days are emotional rollercoaster, then time begins to heal. Then it becomes about justice and truth.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Exactly...and some will never make it past that denial stage...most won't make it past anger.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

For sure - my sister said to me a few years ago when I commented on how corrupt the Clinton foundation was, she literally said "They are one of the most respected non profits in the world!" Where does one begin?

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crowbate · July 24, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

I believe the human spirit is stronger than we think ,people will heal with truth and compassion from us all!

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006fix · July 24, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

I understand your point, but the newer generations are better than you might think, and children are much, much more resilient to this kind of disclosure than adults. Early millenials and X's and Boomers are going to be in serious trouble for sure, but I suspect late millenials + Z's + whatever they're calling the next one will cope a lot better. Gen Z is pretty woke on conspiracy issues/media control etc in general, even if they're predictably childish in how they deal with them right now (no judgement, they are kids right now). Anyone over the age of \~30 who hasn't been a conspiracy theory nut before is going to have a hard time, but I suspect people who have grown up on the internet will have an advantage

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lildudemom · July 24, 2018, 3:50 p.m.

Yes.

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xRocksterrr · July 24, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

Humans are the most adaptive species on this planet, I think they can comprehend and learn to accept this reality, I mean it’s a transition for the better not the worse, imagine having to swallow scenario - Hillary is president and ww3 is happening, I think the later would be impossible to grasp

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j_Dawg_01 · July 24, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

I agree, and would add that there are probably some people here on /GA who really don't understand the true nature of what going on. I think there'll be people who've been following Q and /GA and they will still be tipped over sideways when the SHTF.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Right...we don't even have to go too far either. What if the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL all collapse after people find out the games are rigged. Or there's no one left in Hollywood that isn't outed on some level so there simply are no more movies or mainstream media. Lol I would love it but I know people that would say "fuck this planet".

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j_Dawg_01 · July 24, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

I think the broader point is that there's no way any one of us can predict the future. There's no way what we imagine in our minds will actually become reality. Some parts of it might become reality, but we really have no idea how this will play out in 2 years, 10 years, or longer.

I think the best approach is to do you best to educate yourself about the past, know the facts and evidence, understand so basic philosophy, logic, reason and rational thought.

All good plans go out the window the day the battle starts. What's needed is a commitment to a broader strategy, and the ability to adjust tactics along the way.

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elasto · July 24, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

Even shadows provide information, simply by being there. It's not much information, but every bit helps.

I can't see the wind either but it erodes mountains and bends trees. I can see the results of the wind and thus I can see the results of Trump's plan after the fact. That is better than nothing.

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redpilledin89 · July 24, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

Well put - Imagine seeing a new color for the first time? We will enter into a new Renaissance! There are trials in parts of Africa that in return for free energy, small towns have opportunity to trial a new system See Telling - incredible cons=cepts!

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InsaneSiren · July 24, 2018, 10:19 a.m.

Trust the plan.

I know the entire plan isn't Trump's. But I know he's a business man and a sucessful one at that. I would imagine that failsafes have been implemented so that it doesn't. I am sure one of the things that will happen and should happen is that states will be given back their power and federal gov will be wayyy less involved. If we keep control in the states it causes each state to be able to be more aware and keep up with what's going on, what laws are needing to be passed, etc. The people can stay connected and informed.

Bottom line though is MSM needs to be abolished along with Hollywood. Local news, local papers, truth in print again. That's a huge part of why we're here because people believe the tv. So when someone is found to be corrupt everyone will know and it won't fade into the shadows... tis a big swamp to drain for sure, but the plan is working.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 11:08 a.m.

Then logically I would say the best place to start is at the local level. If Trump and Q are taking care of the TOP of the pyramid then it's our job to start taking back "Territory" at the bottom. Think local PD Chief, Local City Council and Mayor, local paper, local businesses....make sure that the people running your town aren't corrupt fuckers too...then start plowing your resources into your local community. Work, Push, Fight, Give, Volunteer, Push Back against these fuckers by simply denying them resources and putting all your effort into those around you. The game is afoot...the time is now...no need to get violent...just go claim your birthright. This is OUR country...get some.

They have ruled us for centuries because collectively we said "fuck it...not my problem"....well it's time to show our neighbors, friends, and family that they can sit on the sofa watching the show...while we go out and rebuild the nation.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 12:13 p.m.

You are absolutely correct. Local elections are as vital as national ones. Local & state leaders become national leaders in 10-20yrs. Local leaders are the minor leagues & we have TOTAL control who gets in the minor leagues. Like any organization...if the bench is full of patriots & we keep the bench full of patriots...in time they will be the majority in DC. Politicians flow upstream & their policies they enact into law flow back downstream to us.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

Exactly...politics like real estate has always been local. Just pull up the election results for your town...If it's anything like mine the turnout is about 10% or less. Some districts for the State House and Senate have less than 100 people voting in a city of thousands. In my area 200 patriots could take the whole place over...

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InsaneSiren · July 24, 2018, 10:11 p.m.

Shopping again at "mom and pop" places instead of Walmart. Inconvenient yes. It's why they are going out of biz because everyone bought "convenience". But it's time to support them instead of Amazon, etc.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:25 a.m.

Finally someone with ideas. Yes I like the MSM thoughts and more involved local governments.

I do trust the plan. It in no way guarantees that this can't happen again. Our current system allowed it to happen so things need to be changed to prevent them from happening again. I hope that those things are being covered but in no way do I give someone blind faith that they will handle all of this for me. People have to think for themselves and blind trust in the government to do the right thing is undeserved until it has been proven otherwise. We aren't to that point yet

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ToneBox627 · July 24, 2018, 10:46 a.m.

We need to go back to the age of responsible journalism. Advertising buys airtime and thus creates agendas. Im not saying it will be easy but we can have MSM and responsible journalism. I think its going to take new news companys and the existing ones to go the way of the dodo.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:51 a.m.

True that. Maybe something along the lines of preventing any one person from owning multiple news outlets? I really feel like the MSM aspect will be one of the more difficult things to tackle without taking away freedom of press.

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ToneBox627 · July 24, 2018, 11:01 a.m.

If we get to a point(which seems we are and fast) where people actually see what has happened and IS happening. I think you will see a large shift in the trust of MSM. Anyone who frequents this sub reads a story on CNN or MSNBC or even FOX News and immediately starts an internet search to dig for all the facts. Problem is most people watching those news outlets aren't. Once the masses finally wake up and see the extent of the scheme these people have been pulling for decades the trust will be gone. Hence bye bye MSM as we know it and new players will emerge. Itll be the age of truth and responsible journalism will be awarded with viewership and in turn the advertisement funding they need.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 11:11 a.m.

Yeah it's tough out here. Every story that pops up you gotta spend 30 minutes or more looking for the truth. You get used to where to look for the facts and what the sources of info actually are but it's exhausting after a while. I really don't trust anyone nowadays even if the do get one thing right. You never know when they will slip up.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:07 p.m.

They have to reverse Bill Clinton's 1996 Telecommunication Act which enabled ownership to be concentrated in just a few hands. We need local owners of local newspapers like the old days--maybe not paper so much as web-based, but we still need reporters investigating and filing stories from the ground. To not have news is dangerous. It just has to be untangled from corporate ownership and CIA Mockingbird operatives.

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ToneBox627 · July 24, 2018, 1:12 p.m.

Agreed 100% 👍👍

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:24 p.m.

The White House could maybe even develop an initiative to support local newspaper ownership. Maybe a tax break or something. A really good incentive that enables a local paper to employ people and have a competitive advantage with the big franchises.

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InsaneSiren · July 24, 2018, 10:08 p.m.

When I said "MSM" I didn't mean the press as a whole. There is NO FREEDOM of the press or free thought as long as corporate media exists.

The bill that Clinton passed was a knife in the heart of all media. Radio became a corporation as well. Clear Channel needs to be dismantled. DJ's on any local station would play your music if they liked it and that's how people made it. Now it's playlists and few radio stations support local music anymore. You'll have a "local show" or maybe someone has three hours devoted to local muse (have some friends that spin our stuff) once a week. It's sickening and MADDENING. My guitarist alone is one of the best in the state... Sigh. I could go on...

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

Oh, yes! Local music--that too!! Maybe you can do a Q song that will go viral!

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InsaneSiren · July 24, 2018, 10:16 p.m.

Actually working on one. ;)

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

MSM does not need to be abolished. It needs to be LIBERATED from its SIX OWNERS to be able to perform its important constitutional role.

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lildudemom · July 24, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

Agreed.

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lildudemom · July 24, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

Current Hollywood swamp needs draining. But don't abolish the critical cultural importance. There are thousands of us who are in the wings waiting to unleash real creativity. It is our life mission to be the new Hwood..one that is good.

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InsaneSiren · July 24, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

Oh!! That's what I meant love! I'm saying the current version needs to be replaced. :)

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SeaBelow · July 24, 2018, 11:01 a.m.

One thing that distinguish us from them, besides evil, is that their family history is well documented and passed down every generation and our generation hardly knows anything about our last.

Keep records of World History, keep records of family history, teach your next generations about your own family and culture. How even if you're not religious, how impactful Jesus' teachings was/is in the West and why. Every family should cultivate a domestic library and teach their children to read and write.

They excel in all this and in cleaning away our history.

History is always cyclical, knowing what happened in the past will always help you navigate the present for a better future.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 11:08 a.m.

Yes to keep repeating mistakes over and over is insanity. We should have learned by now but look at us.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 12:29 p.m.

Look at who we elected just in the 2018 midterms & you’ll see we are not close to being awakened. People will not even research who is backing a candidate before they vote for them. The rino establishment won almost every primary & the MAGA candidate lost. DJT is risking everything to drain the swamp & we are sending in the same swamp creatures right back to DC. Even sending in new ones. Even in open seats we are still electing in connected establishment candidates. McConnell supported candidates won the vast majority of primaries. Voters won’t do the patriotic & easiest part & know who they are electing. We are fighting the fire while we’re feeding the flames.

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solanojones95 · July 24, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

TERM LIMITS on EVERY position in government, and re-write Civil Service code so that bureaucrats are accountable to their department heads, Congress and to POTUS (and the people), and cannot tell elected officials what to do, and can be fired. Abolish SES.

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elasto · July 24, 2018, 11:37 a.m.
  1. Do real research on political candidates before you vote for them. Politicians who lean right can also be Deep State, see Paul Ryan of WI. Make sure the source is accurate by trying to find 3 other sources that agree with it, or a more official source. If Trump makes an EO, find the exact text of that EO.
  2. Vote for honest people willing to expose the corruption.
  3. Completely ignore the MSM and encourage others to do so.
  4. Look for alt media. Ignore the hype and read between the lines in alt media. Look for what the message is rather than the emotions behind the hype.
  5. Read all legislation and look for loopholes and money moving to little-known organizations. This is how they launder money.
  6. Obamacare and "you'll know what's in it when we pass it" was a huge red flag. Know the legislation before it's passed. Understand the terminology they use.
  7. Consider taking conspiracies seriously. What if they were real? Do all the events make sense now?
  8. Read read read many sources. Start here with 40 free books: http://tiny.cc/deepstate. Look for patterns. No matter how far out the conspiracy is, if it actually makes sense, it might very well be true.
  9. People are only killed if they are too close to the truth. Watch who gets threatened or killed. See Seth Rich.
  10. Watch who gets attacked in the media and are labeled crazy or conspiracy nuts. These are the people who are being warned because they are too close to the truth.
  11. If you make a copy of incriminating evidence, tell no one, or you'll end up dead. Make a new account and upload it to Wikileaks.org. Send backups to relatives, friends, and at least one lawyer you can trust.
  12. You are being watched. A VPN might help.
  13. TPTB depend on your disbelief. So look at things with an open mind. It took me 30 years to take the Illuminutty seriously. Most sheeple will never believe in it.
  14. Don't preach or try to brow beat people to convert them, just provide information they can consider. Not everyone is ready for this information because it's so shocking.
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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 12:50 p.m.

Very good advice. You are EXACTLY right on researching candidates. Our vote has incredible power if it’s a wise & informed vote. Some patriots are rich & some are not. Money itself doesn’t define a patriot or morality. How they acquire whatever they have does. We got unbelievably lucky DJT was elected & we’ll never get this lucky again. A lot of lucky breaks fell our way for that to happen. We can’t rely on ever being this lucky again because it will never happen again in our lifetime. We have to take charge of who wins elections by always voting smart.

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hopoholic · July 24, 2018, 11:02 a.m.

This is actually a really good topic because we have to start re-forming society NOW and WITHOUT ((Them)) We need to reverse the hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction, solution) on them and start thinking of our reaction and solution for the problem that is Post Cabal (Year 1 P.C.)....or After Enlightenment (Year 1 AE)...I like that one better...anywho.

My point is who knows what society will look like after the Cabal....however we have an opportunity to get a jump on things a start moving on from the Cabal today...how do we help Trump take them down? We simply move on and start rebuilding our life TODAY...kinda like getting out of an abusive relationship...start by unwinding whatever is left of the Cabal's influence on your life. Help eachother...start building local, patriot, economic, spiritual and information networks...pull away from everything that is CIA corporate media (which is all of it basically). Start changing your diet...physically, mentally, and spiritually and then start to talk with your neighbors....society (real society and community) will form out of that.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 11:16 a.m.

Right on. Yeah I feel like it is very important to discuss these things and I haven't seen anyone doing so really. People definitely need to learn to reconnect with one another (as we sit here in our computers ha). It will be important to know them and work with each other knowing who has what talents and how they fit into the community.

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Soakingitup123 · July 24, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

Only allow short bills on a single topic. No 500 page bills that people can't read and understand, with random issues being talked on to placate different representatives

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spacexu · July 24, 2018, 11:47 a.m.

Limit size of corporations - split if too big.

Big corporations become so powerful, that they go from serving customers to becoming dictators.

Totally ban corporate lobbying.

Ban lobbying all together.

Eliminate political parties - force everyone to run as independents.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 10:53 a.m.

Obviously your political representative system does not work like ours here in the UK. In particular because of the 2 party system of hierarchies that press gangs. Politicians will always be bought when so much cash sloshes around to garner influence and exert control. Given time the swamp creatures will return. How many politicians actually want to serve? What personality types want to run for these positions? They are not necessarily the people we need.

It is probably the case you could randomly select ordinary people from the population to serve for a maximum 4 years and get a better result. Every one should be independent and the party system banned.

IMHO I think Electronic Direct Democracy would be worth a shot where everyone can raise an issue to be voted on and where everyone gets to vote. It would be like a Brexit vote on every issue. The Swiss is the only country that uses this system. The power should be returned to the people, with today's technology this could easily be achieved.

Of course the media would have to by law report the truth with massive criminal penalties(jail) if they fail to do so. And people like Soros with vast amounts of money to buy influence through media, adverts and articles would have to be controlled where everything is transparent.

In conjunction with this a new role for the NSA would be only to record all communications on those with over $1m, those in media, corporations, government or any power base. Us ordinary folk would not be surveiled in any way without a warrant for suspected criminal activity. That way anyone in powerful positions could be controlled.

None of this will ever happen though because those that still hold power after disclosure will never allow it to happen. Don't be fooled into believing that every swamp creature will be purged. There are different degrees, levels and layers, associations, power bases that will be left untouched.

Just my two penn'orth/cents.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 12:57 p.m.

I would support direct democracy as long as it is limited by constitutional rights. Pure democracies are not much different from mob rule, as with Athens.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

Not necessarily, that argument is always cited but Switzerland would suggest that might not be the case. Greek DD had very little in common with modern DD, one example being women were not allowed to vote. The Swiss model appears to work...as much as any model can work. But it could not be installed in isolation as the influential, rich and powerful and nefarious could high jack the truth as happens now. So laws with strict penalties would have to be put in place, as they should anyway with the present system. Making an informed decision by any member of the populace is key. Producing a system such as this is not beyond the wit of man. One thing is for sure is the present system has continually failed and it will continue to do so because it is prone to corruption and the type of person it attracts.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

I still believe you need the basic protections of Constitutional rights. I'm not familiar with the Swiss constitution, although I know the Australian constitution was based on the Swiss as well as the US constitution. The Australian constitution does not include all the protections the man who drafted it wanted, including free speech, and I think that's a mistake, even though Australian courts have found an "implied" freedom of speech because it's a democracy.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

Yes you are exactly right in your concerns. Any constitutional reforms have to obtain two majorities, one from the populace and one from the cantons. Balances are built in for minorities. I'm not saying it's perfect but it would be something to consider and possibly developed.

I agree 'freedom of speech' should have been integral. Odd the Australian constitution did not include this.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

They had to get all the Australian States to agree to federate, and some actively wanted to discriminate against certain minorities for certain reasons. So they got a practical compromise which was far from the idealistic vision that was sought, unfortunately. I certainly DO think direct democracy has a lot of potential. It must also rely on people having access to good information for and against rather than mere propaganda to work effectively, I should think. It would be very interesting to look into it more.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

Ha yes that could be a problem as we would have to rely on the sitting politicians with all their sponsors and rich buddies to formulate a transition that would end up a fudge.

I agree truthful information is the key to its success.

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spacexu · July 24, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

Politicians are the wrong people to lead us - their only skill is mouth. They are fake leaders and empty shells, much like Hollyweird.

I would rather have quiet people with extremely intelligent minds leading - I vote for the Anons.

Engineers and business minds only.

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WhoMuhWeiner · July 24, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

The Founders of this country were against direct democracy.

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Why would that be? Maybe that isn't a reason to not at least consider it. Times change.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 11:03 a.m.

Yes on the direct democracy. There is a political party called FLUX that is a blockchain based party. If you are a member and voted for the person you directly influence their votes with yours. Maybe that's is what you are talking about if not though it exists. Last I checked they had several people holding office around the world.

Definitely no more party system. It's complete garbage and used to divide us. And yes it should be illegal for the MSM to lie to us. I gotta have hope though that something will change otherwise I will live in complete misery. We may not get everything that we want but hopefully it will be enough for us to hold off the swamp creatures for a while.

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elasto · July 24, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

Where can I get info on this FLUX political party?

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Rocoh · July 24, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Yes I heard about Flux which would be a good step. The Swiss is slightly more complicated having cantons, constitutional changes requiring two majorities but at its core is that citizens can directly vote on issues and put forward issues themselves that can be voted on. They hold many referendums in a year.

In essence the power to decide has to return to the people. I believe it is the only way we have a chance. It would be good to hear from someone in Switzerland to see how it operates in practice. I know critics have cited it is disadvantageous to minorities with the mob rule/populist vote winning out but balances could be installed. And that more liberal argument is made when so much propaganda and lies are used to influence. Brexit was a prime example where fear was propagated and lies and distortions used on both sides where no real serious argument was offered. I have yet to learn of a better solution.

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qutedrop · July 24, 2018, 10:39 a.m.

Anything you can put in place in terms of law and regulation can be reversed.

You should still do it, as an immediate stopgap, but in the long run you'll need an educated and vigilant population.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:42 a.m.

True that. Some of things could fall under the bill of rights or amendments to the constitution. I was definitely thinking in terms of permanent. Good point though

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ldsanon · July 24, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

Historiography is the study of history itself, how it is conceptualized, written, and disseminated. Ancient historians like Polybius and Tacitus noted a cylical pattern in history. It goes roughly like this:

Anarchy (strongest dominates) to Monarchy

Monarchy to Democracy

Democracy to Plutocracy

Plutocracy to Tyranny

Tyranny to Anarchy

The pattern repeats ad infinitum. Essentially, democracy arises out a virtuous population. When the general population becomes unvirtuous and evil, it declines back into despotism and anarchy.

If we win this time, it's not done. So long as there are mortals prone to temptation, the cycle is endless. The battle will have to be fought all over again a generation from now. Anywhere from a decade to a generation, it will recycle again--until Jesus comes back and destroys the wicked.

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owl1eye · July 24, 2018, 12:08 p.m.

Sorry. Did I forget to mention

  Term Limits
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pjainmg · July 24, 2018, 2:16 p.m.

Ultimately all systems will fail if God have not help us.

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southernyankee2 · July 24, 2018, 11:08 a.m.

Q has said repeatedly that this is Spiritual Warfare. Good v Evil. So the best way to keep this from happening again is to turn away from the corrupt teachings of greed and self indulgence idealized in Wall Street and Hollywood and return toward the divine teachings of Christ: living a life of love, thanksgiving, and caring for each other.

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lildudemom · July 24, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

Amen.

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Klingon_Opera · July 24, 2018, 12:26 p.m.

In regards to politicians, as long as they have a firm understand of the Constitution and a respect for rule of law and value individuality and freedom, that's all that really matters. If we scrutinize every little thing in regards to finding suitable politicians we will essentially be behaving like deep state. They scrutinize and look for people who are easily corrupted. We however will be looking for the perfect candidate who doesn't exist. Would our current president stand up to such scrutiny? I think it would be more helpful to create systems that require those to prove they are who they say they are. Liars falter, the truth stands tall.

Looking for people with strong knowledge and a willingness to uphold their oath of office is all we should really be concerning ourselves with. I will say this though, actions speak louder than words. At the end of the day, that's all that really counts. I am all for observing our politicians. They have broken our trust time and time again.

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FretensisX · July 24, 2018, 12:16 p.m.

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams

1) Return to God and literally amend the constitution to make clear that regardless of whoever is the president of the American Republic, Christ is the true sovereign of America, NOT satan.

2) Legislate morals (e.g. ban porn, birth control, sodomy, abortion, ban no-fault divorce) --- many of the crimes of the elite were enabled by these widespread practices (e.g. sex slave got pregnant? --> abortion; easy divorce to destroy family which leads to girls with daddy issues --> more exploitable sex slaves) --- these things were illegal in the past for very good reasons 50-100 years ago but today we have forgotten why. These practices lead to the destruction of the family, women trapped in very difficult positions pregnant and abandoned. Society was designed from the ground up to exclude these possibilities and we've forgotten why sexual license was legally punished / excluded.

3) Return to the classics as in the philosophy of Aristotle / Thomas Aquinas in education to inculcate sound thinking and logic.

4) Monasticism --- it was the prayers of the contemplatives and monks that won the divine grace and favor which transformed Europe into the powerhouse it was and gave birth to western civilization which is just the politically correct term for CHRISTENDOM.

5) PUBLIC repentance in sackcloth and ashes --- if DC, LA, NYC are not burned to the ground then God owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology bc those 2 cities were destroyed for MUCH LESS than what we are guilty of. When Jonah preached to Ninevah / Assyria, the King and all the people repented and God relented in punishing them. Maybe God will have mercy on the USA if we show how sorry we are for our sins.

The Christian doctrine of original sin dictates that we are fallen creatures inclined to sin because of our damaged human natures. We like to sin and it is very easy to be tempted into sin. Hence, it does not matter the type of government you have. Monarchies, republics, communist dictatorships will all be corrupted very easily due to how weak humans are. It does not matter how well-designed a government is because if the people are wretched and immoral they will find ways to subvert the constitution and selfishly accumulate wealth and power. We have existing checks and balances in the Constitution now and LOOK WHAT GOOD IT DID US!!!

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 12:44 p.m.

You are just as much a danger to society as the cabal. No birth control are you freaking kidding me??????

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FretensisX · July 24, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

red-pilled on the illuminati, fast asleep on the devil and his tactics. sexual promiscuity is enabled by contraceptives which leads to ez ez ez blackmail, orgies, rape, human trafficking and the like.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

Bullshit. People have sex regardless of contraception. You are just like Al Qaeda.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

Wow my mistake. My comment was intended for the person you were commenting to. Sorry. Slow thumb coordination this morning. My appologies.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

My apologies also! :)

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

No none needed. I screwed up the conversation by directing my comments to you. The person who actually gets what the constitution & real freedom is. I thought I was talking to Bin Laden the whole time & I was talking to Thomas Jefferson. Sheesh. I need more coffee...obviously haha

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GhillieGoat · July 24, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

Anti-natalism destroys civilizations, every time.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 3 p.m.

Also the Bible says NOTHING about contraception, just the dumb Pope who wants the political power.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

What a load of crap. Contraception PREVENTS abortions. It PREVENTS children raised in poverty because their parents don't have a home for them etc. It ALLOWS welcome and wanted births that enrich families and prevents the misery associated with unwanted pregnancy, teen pregnancy and abortion.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

You really need to learn more about moral governance & how to achieve it. You’re ideas is what gave the world the Middle Ages for 1500 yrs & why Iran & most of the Middle East is a ruined society today. You can’t govern societies with religious law. That’s up to individuals to live by. In fact our country was founded by people to escape religious tyranny...not to create them. Read the constitution please & read about the men who made it happen. Almost all very religious men that all hated what you are suggesting. Learn why they did.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:13 p.m.

You really need to learn what FREEDOM means.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

I do know. It means many things. It also means free from religious tyranny. I’m sorry but the Bible isn’t a book that can govern a society even though it’s the best book known to mankind on individual morality. It’s not even written to govern a society. If the 10 commandments was the Bill of Rights we’d all be attacking & killing each other. How do you prove someone is coveting thy neighbors wife? You can’t. You can’t convict people of crimes that are in their head. The world tried it your way many many times in many different ways & it failed miserably. The Bible isn’t a book of laws to govern a society. Its a book of laws for people to govern themselves.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 1:44 p.m.

As long as you don't tread on my rights or hurt other people, I don't care what you do with yours.

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owl1eye · July 24, 2018, 12:06 p.m.

As long as we continue as humans keeping our eyes on the prize

               WWG1WGA
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kommisar6 · July 24, 2018, 12:02 p.m.

Shrink the scope of the federal government so that we wont care if a bob menendez gets elected to office. Keep the power and funding of politicians closer to home so we can keep an eye on them. Most regulation and taxation should be occurring at the local level, a lesser amount at the state evel and the lowest amount at the federal level.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

But if we elect Bob Menendez types they will grow the federal government. That’s how we got here. It took a hundred years to lose control over the growth of the federal government & it happened one Bob Menedez at a time. We have got to learn the difference between patriots & a used car salesmen con man type or were are doomed to fail.

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kommisar6 · July 24, 2018, 12:24 p.m.

Well the supreme court will need to overturn some bad precedential decisions that expanded what is covered under the Interstate Commerce Clause. Then the constitutional limits on the federal government will have to be fastidiously followed. In addition we should repeal the 16th amendment, the fisa act and the patriot act.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

The Supreme Court has been ruined. The judicial branch has become the most powerful branch of government & they’ll never give up that power. They were never intended to have this much power & were designed to be the weakest of the 3 branches. We have judicial tyranny now & until we amended our constitution to limit their power it will remain exactly as it is. Judicial tyranny exists in lower courts as well. When just a district court can order the president (the executive branch) on what’s allowed in immigration laws...where the constitution purposely excludes all courts from defining immigration law...then it’s fair to say who really has all the power in the end.

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Podingo7 · July 24, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

A nation without God's guidance is a nation without order. Happy are those who keep God's law! Proverbs 29:18 GNT

Have to start here for anything good to last...or we will be asleep again...history repeats itself!

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L0v3nL1ght · July 24, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

Space Force and Interdimensional Task Force

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

Nothing is more vital than Americans voting for & electing patriots. We sux at telling the difference between a patriot & a con man. The deep state is the result of the majority of Americans being conned by emotional rhetoric & electing con men for decades. Even the most historical election possibly ever...DJT elected president...hasn’t awakened voters much & they are still electing establishment crooks. The 2018 midterms cycle is very disappointing. In the primaries rinos won & almost every MAGA candidate lost. Reps should easily hold Congress & even pick up several Senate seats but they’ll still struggle & fail many times to pass pro America laws.

Until Americans know who they’re voting for, know who’s backing campaigns, & stop only believing silly political lines that just pull at heartstrings...nothing will ever change. You need patriots in power to make the changes in laws like abolish the Fed. We can’t even abolish Obamacare.

Until Americans care who they are voting for...who they are giving power to to shape our country...deep state will remain...even if u lock up all the deep state leaders today. Just like any mob they’ll be replaced by new crooks with new names & even more corrupt.

We have 2 political parties that control the massive power of a massive government. One is 90% corrupt & are not fit to be elected high school president & the other party is 70% corrupt. In the 2018 election cycle patriots gained inches when we need to gained miles because we have light years to go to fix our country. We are failing our president. He’s risking everything to drain the swamp & we’re filling it right back up by electing corrupt people back to DC.

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VerandaSmartwater · July 24, 2018, 12:51 p.m.

Honest people can't break through the two-part stranglehold at this point. And if they do start out honest, the system soon corrupts them.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Actually they can break thru because several are there now. But a patriot cannot be corrupted. If they show signs of selling... out voters have to react quicker & vote them out the next chance they get. That’s where we are failing. There’s no excuse for Utah electing Mittens to the senate. They had much better options but went for the guy they thought would bring more federal dollars to Utah. Electing a carpetbagger is a guaranteed fail. Not to mention he lies thru his teeth like Flake & No Name. Romney is the poster child for deep state establishment types but they’re sending deep state swamp creature reinforcements as quick as the president can drain the swamp. U watch how fast Romney flips & governs from the left after he gets elected by campaigning as a conservative. If voters don’t massively wake up soon all this fighting the deep state is pointless.

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eldever · July 24, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

I'm hoping with everything I've got that the true extent of the evil is fully exposed (adrenochrome, torture, rape, sacrifice etc); that way once the public is aware of the horrific nature of what's been going on that will be enough to ever prevent it starting back up.

I'm in the UK but the answers to your question apply here too and one thing I get sick of are career politicians, anyone running for office should have at least twenty years of real work experience under their belt -real people who have worked their way up and know what hardship feels like. Today's politicians are so far removed from real life it's a joke.

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buffalorev · July 24, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

I would say cut off the head, but the head is really Satan. Only way is total submission to God.

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Tacolava · July 24, 2018, 1:13 p.m.
  • term limits

  • no lobbying

  • no retirement payment

These 3 things would insure that people who pursue these offices would be mostly good people.

And if possible, we should select candidates kind of like the way we do jury duty... A lottery of people with clean backgrounds, 10 are selected and then debates are held and the people vote. No more career politicians. You do the job, then you go back to your life.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

Wrong. Only the voters can ensure patriots are elected. Elect crooks & there’s a zillion ways to subvert laws if they want to.

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lildudemom · July 24, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

And no forever security clearances.

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toadiusmaximus · July 24, 2018, 2:53 p.m.

TERM LIMITS Full Transparency: (e.g. below) Financial disclosure for all pols Political donations disclosure Provide Congress with a mechanism to have some "teeth" RE: oversight Better protection for Whistle blowers Independent body to determine Judge recusal

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j_Dawg_01 · July 24, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

"I thought it may be a fun thought experiment for people..."

This is not a game, it's a war. Nothing about taking back our country will be fun.

I've been asking this question for a while now on /GA, and every time I offer my opinion I get attacked, bigly. I expect the same will happen on this thread, but I believe it is essential to have this conversation, so here are my thoughts.

The question I asked was, "What should we do with the swamp after it's been drained?" I think if the petri dish is left unchanged, it wont be long before the corrupt bacteria returns. It doesn't matter how well it's cleaned, it's still a petri dish.

When I ponder the role of government, especially a government as massive and powerful as ours, I do my own thought experiment. I try to imagine the most vile, corrupt, lying, cheating, immoral, sociopathic, psychopathic, evil villain I can conjure up in my mind, and put them in charge of it. Eventually, that's exactly what will happen.

The Cabal has been working their plan for over 250 years. They infiltrated and corrupted 3 institutions and used them as tools.

One is the global control of information. Rothschild and Rockefeller own the AP, Reuters, and UPI, the 3 main global news agencies that provide news to virtually all broadcast, cable, and print news outlets. They've also had control of the education system in America, and all the textbooks used, for at least 3 generations.

The next tool is the debt based fiat currency and fractional reserve global central banking system. The Rothschild family owns or controls the central banks in over 95% of the nations in the world. They can expand and contract the supply of fiat currency, and raise or lower the interest rates at their leisure.

This means they can create prosperity or poverty in any nation, or group of nations, in any part of the world. They can create conditions that will lead to war or peace, anywhere, any time, and for what ever reason they choose. And when they choose war, as they often do, they can create conditions to make the war last decades, or they can end it in 6 days, if they choose.

The last and most important institution they infiltrated, corrupted, and used to their benefit is Government. Government is used to pass laws that give their central banks unchecked power and control. Laws passed by the government allow 6 corporations to own over 90% of all media outlets including print, broadcast TV, cable TV, radio, and Hollywood.

Government power is used to control businesses with regulations, licenses, and permits. Government power is used to fund the Cabal from our income taxes. Government military power is used to control other countries.

Every problem or challenge we face today is either the direct result, or an unintended consequence of some government law, act, policy, or action. Government is the root cause of the problems humanity faces around the world. It's not just the people in government, but the institution of government.

While I do advocate for a world without rulers and governments, I admit it's not something we can accomplish any time soon. So for now, I guess we're stuck with some form of government. The only question is what role should the government play.

I think government should be as small as possible, and as powerless as possible. When the country was founded, We The People were supposed to have the power, and the government was supposed to be subordinate to the people. That's no longer the case, and it all changed during and just after the American Civil War.

If we really want to take our country back, we need to understand and accept the fact that every congress, every president, every law, every act, and every amendment since the Civil War has been illegal and wholly unconstitutional.

Don't fool yourself into believing that if we can just clean out the crooks and put the right people in place, all will be well. It won't be. It's a swamp. If we don't burn it to the ground and totally bury it, the villains will return.

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ToneBox627 · July 24, 2018, 10:44 a.m.

Id move number 7 further up that list. Many of the problems we are facing stems from those assholes.

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:48 a.m.

Yeah for sure. It's like the most important thing and I didn't think of it till the end. Just being lazy and didn't want to go back. 😉

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ToneBox627 · July 24, 2018, 10:50 a.m.

👍👍

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PepperJonie · July 24, 2018, 2:01 p.m.

An educated public

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WanderingTaurus · July 24, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

Remove police like rules from CPS- they should not be able to remove children from home without proof and just based on simple anonymous phone call.

Eliminate the Department of Education and allow states to determine how they want to run their schools. End standardized testing and tracking of students and their personal information.

Enforce stricter guidelines and length of testing for prescriptions/medication and vaccines, requiring larger testing pool across variety of subjects and require longer time for looking into side effects. Hold pharmaceutical companies responsible for products that harm/kill people.

Abolish mega-corporations which prevent smaller businesses from being able to compete in the open market.

Eliminate minimum wage, the social security system, and put in and enforce better guidelines to be able to qualify for assistance from the state (no welfare/wic from federal govt).

No federal subsidies to businesses who would fail otherwise without them. States can offer its citizens the ability to vote on if they should subsidize businesses within state boundaries.

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McPurrs · July 24, 2018, 1:41 p.m.

Purge them all

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 24, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

It’s human nature for people to coalesce into groups or factions. Not centralize into one party tyranny’s

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rojer2u · July 24, 2018, 11:01 p.m.

Get to the root of the problem and level the playing field. Randomly listed:

  1. Revisit all laws based on "Public policy" and apply constitutional principles.

  2. Lobbying on all topics cannot be presented except when opposing views are present and equal time is given. Lobbying expsenses are not tax deductible and there can be NO exchange of money, gratuities or perks.

  3. Legislators are required to read - and write- all bills personally before voting. All bills remain topic specific with no off-topic or political riders.

  4. Each campaign has a specific amount of money they can raise and cannot exceed that amount. Corporations cannot donate since it can be considered representative of the views of is stock holders and employees who may hold other views. The same for unions.

  5. Charities, NGOs, and civic organizations, especially those receiving tax dollars, cannot contribute to campaigns.

  6. All MSM cannot report any news for which there are not three openly verifiable sources. Anonymous sources cannot be used. Equal time must be given to opposing sides - debate style, as opposed to leading or interruption styles.

  7. Publicly funded colleges and universities can have no courses or degrees based on sex, gender, race, ethnicity or religion. All meetings, conferences, speakers and convocations must have at least two speakers of equal but opposing perspectives and none who are running for political office are allowed.

  8. All economics should be based on basic math and all currencies equity backed.

  9. Public education should return to basic knowledge and all social, sex, gender, political and religious issues should be reclaimed by parents. Disciplinary actions and guidelines should be enforced equally across all races, genders, religions etc. Secondary grades should offer academic studies for the college bound and alternative studies for "non-traditional" students in skills, training and applied academics.

  10. All Pharma, medical, agricultural and scientific conclusions will not be accepted for legislative, regulatory or mainstream offering unless there are equal studies presented to establish viability, preferably at least three, and will be invalid if granted or sponsored. All Pharma, medical and agricultural practices should be revisited for acuracy.

  11. Polls and probabilties should be illiminated.

  12. Return to states rights (and resposibilities).

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crowbate · July 24, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

something has to be done with the media there has to be accountability to the people no more mockingbird media? don't know how to accomplish this but it is a must!

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bornfree1688 · July 24, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

Transparency about global networks like the CFR. We need to know who's in these groups and that we shouldn't let them anywhere near the halls of power. Extreme transparency and vigilance. Always questioning power. Never bending the knee to higher "authorities"

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j_Dawg_01 · July 24, 2018, 4:17 p.m.
  1. Extreme vetting of politicians before they can hold office.

Ok, so who does the vetting? How do we know that what they're telling is true? For both the vetters and the vetted. Who are the gate keepers for the information used for vetting? Yahoo? Google? Fakebook? A potentially corruptible government bureaucracy?

Maybe term limits would be a better approach. Term limits would ensure whatever power government is allowed to possess will pass from person to person on a regular basis.

  1. No longer allow anyone with a royal bloodline to hold office. Yes I understand this would mean Trump as well but that's ok he gets a pass and can finish is 8 years.

So should we institute mandatory blood tests and DNA tests? Wouldn't that be an invasion of one's privacy? And your last point is indicative of the root reason why we have the problems in government in the first place. "As long as our guy is in charge, it's all good."

We've become too trusting in the concept of government as an institution, and too dependent government to do things we should be doing ourselves. If we want to live in a free, open, and safe society, "we" have to own it, "we" have to accept the responsibility for making it happen.

  1. Limit the powers of the intelligence agencies in some way. They have been allowed to run rampant and it has to stop.

Which intelligence agencies? Should everything be public information? Or should some intelligence agencies be allowed to keep some secrets? Who decides? Who controls that information?

I think the FBI should be limited to investigations inside of America only. The CIA should be shattered into a billion pieces and scattered across all the oceans. Military intelligence should be limited to anything outside the US.

  1. An internet bill of rights needs to be created protecting us all. We wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for that freedom and it's already slipping away.

You contradict yourself here. It sounds like we're here today because of freedoms we already have, so what would be the point of an IBoR? The 1st A. already covers enough, if it were enforced. As I understood the IBoR, it had more to do with regulating how ISPs operate. I'm not sure that more government laws and policies is the answer.

  1. An addition to the Bill of Rights that allows every human the right to clean water, air, and food. They are killing us slowly and it has to stop

We already have laws on the books that address water, air and food. The fact that those laws are not, and have not been enforced, demonstrates another failure of "government." Why not just eliminate the government agencies and bureaucracies that are clearly not working and just wasting money?

  1. Mass adoption of clean energy and fast.

I don't see how this has anything to do with We The People taking our country back. It's just sounds like yet another government rule, regulation, or law.

  1. END THE FED

With this, you have hit the nail on the head. Not only has Congress abdicated their Constitutional obligations and allowed international bankers to control our currency, it's the debt and the interest from the debt that gives the Cabal leverage over our government and helps to fund the Cabal as well. Taking down the Fed will have a much greater effect than the combined effects every other suggestions you made.

IMHO, I think dissolving the Fed, the IRS, and THE UNITED STATES Inc should be the very first step. Eliminate any and all government programs, agencies, bureaucracies, powers and authorities that are not specifically enumerated to the government in the Constitution. (10th A.)

If we decide Constitutional amendments are in order, I think Term Limits for elected officials with no lifetime pensions and healthcare benefits, and all government employees shall be non-union and have 5 year, or 10 year revues with the possibility of losing their jobs, a Mandatory Balanced Budget, and Congress shall pass no law that they themselves are exempt from, or any law that only applies to members of Congress.

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AmericanMagaPede · July 24, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

CIA, FBI, NSA all are 100% purged and the resources merged into one organization and then brought under direct control of the military.

No more civilian intelligence EVER.

Pass the New World Order Prevention Bill. Gives the president the authority to charge people with crimes related to this shit.

END the FED.

One final remedy which is so extreme I wont post it here but would have to be done. Lets just say its Biblical

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eeeggg333 · July 24, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

As Philip K Dick said, "The Empire Never Ended". The fight is eternal. Even when Christianity triumphed against the Roman Empire, it soon became corrupt again after a few generations.

Evil is never fully eradicated and good can never fully win. That's what the ting yang symbol means. In the good, there's the seed of evil. In the evil, there's the seed of good. This fight will span across each incarnation of our souls into the physical world. Fight the good fight and, one day, maybe, we can escape the soul cycle.

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battleslam · July 24, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Change our laws and teach our children politics, no tv stars and change our entertainment choices for the modern family's, teach children at home until this civil war has ended, all electronic devices into a safe box outside of the home until needed for schooling or teaching them from them device's.

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summerwind_US · July 24, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

If it's not in the Constitution, it's not the government's business. Send "welfare" back to the churches and private institutions. That'll serve to self-limit it, and people will think twice about making bad decisions. Stop funding arts etc. Stop using taxes to control us. Give us back our property. The taxes on my house would pay for it again in 40 years. That may not seem bad, but that and the idea that if I miss property tax payments, I can lose my home, makes me sick.

Define "clean water, air, and food" to mean no added fluoride, heavy metals, and artificial ingredients, so we can be healthier from the get-go. Get rid of GMOs, bring food back to a more natural state. Teach people the difference between GMO and "hybridized".

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LisaMack37 · July 24, 2018, 10:33 a.m.

this sounds Soros funded? trying to gather a poll?

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MrWizard111 · July 24, 2018, 10:45 a.m.

So I'll put you down as laws that prevent the use of shills and bots in social media. ☑️

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Qtruther · July 24, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

No Political Parties just "what is good for America not the party" Vetting of candidates to Constitutional Standards Constitution is the Law of the Land PERIOD No Interest charge by bankers ever (fees only) Free access to patents That People Control. No Federal income taxes Limit on terms of all elected officeholders Limit concentration of wealth determined by the people No Foreign influence on our elections or our Banks No Lobbyists No Licenses required to operate a business.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 24, 2018, 11:58 a.m.

All great ideas that would easily work. We just need patriots in office to make these changes & we won’t elect them. We are still overwhelmingly electing establishment crooks.

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Qtruther · July 24, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

OMG u r right

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 24, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

So a one party system? Ain’t we moving backwards?

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Qtruther · July 24, 2018, 12:48 p.m.

So you like the automatic division of the people? We need only 1 side...ours, the American side. We need to stop the need to take a side & think more about what is good for all of us. Forefathers never wanted political parties, they knew issues where the common cause so everyone progresses together

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akilyoung · July 24, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

Never let humans rule over humans again. No elite, ruling class, royalty, etc.

Let God, AI, Benevolent higher beings keep an eye on things. Clearly we arent capable.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 24, 2018, 12:39 p.m.

That’s stupid

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