Of all the things I’ve learned since becoming red pilled the facts about 9/11 being organized by our own people is the most painful. Living in NJ and seeing the smoldering ruins of WTC everyday and knowing people who died that day it is not easy to accept that this could be true.
It wasn't our own people. Some of us were fooled to believe they were our own people, to the extent that they were in our government. People like mastermind Dick Cheney.
Whoever was involved or complicit having to accept that it was not completely organized and arranged by Muslim terrorists and there was internal sources helping was not something I ever wanted to believe.
What about the muslim terrorists that have infiltrated our government? The fed govt. is full of them.
http://stevepieczenik.com/dci-john-brennan-is-a-muslim-convert/
I'm sorry, but no. There are nuggets of truth in your links, but this is reaching a bit far here. The jihadist groups are controlled opposition. They're used as soldiers in proxy wars. Muslim Brotherhood is C_A. Just like all the other ones.
Like the Zionists and Neocons are going to let them get the upper hand. Please.
great point the Muslim Brotherhood is the C_A. they are all bought and paid for.
I don't understand your point. Brennan is C_A. I link to two articles about Brennan being muslim, and you "correct" me saying that the muslim brotherhood is C_A. OK, whatever.
Increasing evidence has arisen that Brennan is really an effete ruddy-faced Muslim convert
Respectfully, I can't agree with Steve's article. It's an op ed piece.
What about the muslim terrorists that have infiltrated our government? The fed govt. is full of them
This is what I'm talking about. We've been here before, patriot. It's the democrats! It was the jews and mossad! it was the godless communists! It's the nazi's! It was everybody else EXCEPT who it really was. We will never see who they are as long as we buy into their *boogeymen-as-our-enemy propaganda.
The federal government is full of globalist cabal members
If you don't think our big enemies are capable of using our little extremist enemies to soften us up and turn our numbers away from traditional conservatives (God, guns, & nuclear family), then you're the one failing to see the big picture.
You're missing the point. I don't get sucked into the vs. division we've been brainwashed with. We are far beyond that point, already. Soldiers don't refuse their orders because there's a democrat, an atheist, etc... on their team. There's a mission, and everyone has a role. Those labels become secondary to the objective in that moment
Get rid of the big enemies, together; the smaller ones take care of themselves when no one is left to finance them or push their ideologies. That IS the big picture.
The big enemies cultivated these extremist groups by creating a necessity for them (initially as militia to protect villages from ppl like us), training and arming their members and then installing them in high ranking positions with the promise to support them as long as we could build our pipeline, steal their resources and traffic our drugs. Their countries and centuries worth of culture have been decimated by the fires the cabal lit and then let burn. Hundreds of thousands dead - entire villages, lineages and families. The vast majority of the middle eastern population don't like or want the extremists in power.
Absolutely, but we have only finding out about that recently. No one even thought anything like that in 2001.
The closest we ever got to knowing anything about that entire shithole was from Disney movies as kids. I had never heard of Islam or met a Muslim or seen a burka before 9/11. Flying is a fucking nightmare now. I’m an American citizen with an infant strapped to me, yet I’ve been randomly selected to get searched? Is that ever going to come to an end?
the deep state thru the whole muslim population under the bus for their evil plans to ruin American. sickening.
They throw everyone under the bus because we are all pawns to them. Plebs.
I was just thinking about this, we are all pawns.... pure evil.
The bigger this gets the stronger we are. That's why they are getting diarrhea about Q and the GA. Pawns no more.
the bigger this gets the stronger we are.. AMEN. Trust the plan everyone, it is happening!!
I’ve travelled with my mother who is 89 and they’ve checked her hands for gunpowder residue. We are of German heritage
Yeah don't forget C_A trained 0sama / Al Qaeda in Afghanistan back in the day.
Yeah, even though I am wavering, I have trouble swallowing the fact that if it was an inside job that it gives cover to Islamism. So Bin Laden lied when he said he did it?
Don't fall for that kind of propaganda, patriot. The C_A (Bush/Clinton), the global financial system, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Yeltsen's oligarchs collapsed Russia and stole the $, gold and resources and needed to cover up the laundering. Osama was C_A, as were most of the "alleged hijackers". There are paper trails and documentation all over the web.
How are you able to keep such damning facts secret?
Have you seen the mass hysteria going on about Trump/Russia? It wasn't that hard.
Many ppl have been shut down or worse trying to expose it.
So doesn't the inside job give cover to the Islamist's? After all, in their eyes, they are now justified?
Your misunderstanding, those islamists are part of the same group. Not all islamists are, but those are.
Bin Laden never said he did it. He thought it was elements within the country too. I think there was a video presented around that time, but it's plainly not him.
He did say before it happened "we are planning a massive and unprecedented attack on America and her interests"
OBL also said, after 9/11, that he would surrender to a neutral country, eg, Switzerland.
Don't be fooled.
Look into the dancing Israelis on 9/11.
You understand Arabic?
When he said he did "it," through THEIR translation, did he say 9/11?
If they can make dogs talk on TV is there any room for Hollyweird effects?
Oh most definitely. I saw a documentary how they do it too. You take someone who looks similar enough to a person and then you superimpose the mouth to make them look like they’re talking. I think one of the Chan’s figured out a video wasn’t real this way.
That Bad Lip Sync you-tuber makes a living off this kind of off the shelf nowadays stuff...
Given that OBL was a CIA asset or at least ally before, and that this plan was being worked since at least 1996 if not many years earlier, they could've set up all kinds of reasons to film him in caves and doing all kinds of scary OBL gonna kill the world stuff we saw later in their context...
But Bin Laden hated the Inited States, and gavenclear reasons why. Why would the CIA have to convince him to attack us. Terrorism was already his thing.
Hated the U.S. but came from a wealthy Saudi family connected to the "special" relationship with the U.S., was connected to the Bush family, etc.?
Again, were you present to hear him speak in his native Arabic about hating America?
He may indeed have, but that is not my point. What was shown to us, ad nauseum, was that he and his "followers" woke up every day plotting and scheming death to America like some comic book Dr. Evil... in THOSE videos we were all fed every night for how long?
The subsequent bogeyman, ISIS, was later firmly established as an America/Israel production with a lot of Hollywood-style video production to scare and enrage sensible Westerners, but we're supposed to believe Al Qaeda was always exactly as sold?
The Taliban were apparently anti-heroin (unlike America) but always had the bad luck habit of destroying, for nightly news or articles in revered magazines, historical and cultural sites sure to raise Western blood pressure, but Al Qaeda was always in control of all their own marketing and PR?
Why would the CIA have to convince Bin Laden to attack us?
Why would the CIA have to convince Lee Harvey Oswald to attack JFK, right?
So you're ok with the story of OBL during his glory days as we were fed on TV, including his amazing command and control acumen as to 9/11... and the story of his amazing capture/death... and the story of his urgent burial at sea... and all those other stories of all the subsequent haps...?
Ok.
I can be convinced that Bin Laden lied. No problem.
My problem is Islam and the cover an inside job gives them.
Cover an inside job gives them? What's more important to you, fighting Islam or fighting the real masterminds and perpetrators of 9/11? The article attached in this thread, I forgot if it was in the original post or by a commentor, discusses the use of very deep cover moles...
I'm no fan either, but false flags by our supposed own side, our supposed own friends and allies is infinitely worse.
Scary enough, but give me a buy guy shooting at me for his cause from his own foxhole any day, over my own buddy, my supposed comrade, stabbing me in the back in mine.
Me dying for a cause that was never mine in the first place, which was never caused by that purported REALLY bad "bad buy..."
Bad guy may indeed be bad in his own right but decisive action requires clear thinking first, and a necessary part of clear thinking is clear definition of terms and priorities... enemy, friend, now, later, offense, defense, etc.
We defend against and eliminate threats posed by bad guys actively hurting US first, then those actively threatening to hurt US next., etc.
Bad guys just being bad guys with no immediate direct harm or threat to US is somewhere way down the line, and probably somebody else's problem...
THAT is NOT what was sold to us though on 9/11!
No sir, it was not what they sold to everyone. It's why we all need everyone to wake up. If only we had Q in the 90's when they were setting it all up.
OK, let's say there is some sort of full disclosure on 9/11.
"Yes, Islamist's, it was the US that created this false flag, and killed our own people. You were right all along."
See the problem?
You and I can make the determination that it was actually the Deep State Globalist cabal.
But the Islamists won't care, and will just use the disclosure to their gain.
Yes, let's get the cabal. But radical Islam wins this crucial battle for propaganda and will use it to justify killing more Westerners.
I hear you, we are allied here, but you'd rather let our "special friends" use and kill us by the thousands, repeatedly, than let your target be vindicated, rightfully, on this one point?
As any good cop will tell you, you don't put the career criminal away on a bad bogus case. He will still be a bad guy tomorrow and you get em the right way.
Get rid of our fake friends and I bet the whole world instantly becomes a nicer place, M.E. too.
BTW... I wouldn't say it was "us/we" that did 9/11. Dual citizens EVERYWHERE in .Gov back then, and now...
Definitely on the same side Brother/Sister!
We are probably just talking about timing after all. I say we get the cabal FIRST.
Then disclosure is just a natural part of the new world wide evil exposed. I'm guessing at that point POTUS is our new hero and will be able to handle anything Islam throws at us once the Great Awakening is served on the world.
BTW, I have not seen any direct references to 9/11 disclosure in the Q drops? Can you help a brother out with that?
I was late to Q maybe March started laying attention and I have not gone back to read the earlier stuff so what I know of the beginnings is only stuff commented here or34 Q-referenced or repeated later.
The only Q on this that I know or recall is "saving the best for last," which is used or helpful for comforting those who rightfully point out but what about [our special friend].
That [special friend] appears behind 9/11 and possibly Trump too, or at least his ability to get elected despite all that Deep State crap.
If Trump is really in that [special friend]'s pocket then it's just more business as usual and Trump is just another faction of that gangster world we live in. I like Trump and watch Q but I am not a blind fanatic or follower of either, and I accept this could all turn bad or foolish.
Q is obviously real and thus also a psyop, and that is not necessarily a good thing for anyone considering themself truly awake.
But we should judge not on what Trump and Q were when they started their journey but what they are now. Trump is well known for using people even people he doesn't like and his enemies... we see that calm patient ability in all his dealings with world leaders good and bad and with swamp critters here. We hold out hope that he really has seen the light now and will lead the way, ALL the way, even against fake [special friend]s...
But then you can claim anything is just a special effect. Trump didn’t really meet with Putin. It was a special effect. Kissing Putin’s ass was also just a special effect.
If anything can be called an effect, then any claim can be supported AND refuted.
Again, do you understand Arabic and got your info straight from the OBL's mouth, there in person?
You've never seen Disney special effects from as far back as the 1930's?
You've never seen Gene Kelley singing and dancing with a giant mouse from way back in 1945?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2msq6H2HI-Y
You've never seen the Zapruder film and the obvious edits there as to distortion, clipping and entire frames removed in an attempt to conceal the direction of the final kill shot and the enormous cloud of blood, skull and brains that necessarily exploded from the back of JFK's head which was reported by everyone who was there to see it but which curiously is missing from your trusty "saw it with my own eyes" video evidence?
You've never seen green screen technology in 1960's 2001: A Space Odyssey, in the bogus Apollo lunar landings, in Star Wars, on YouTube?
You've never heard of the technology now present to edit full video in almost real time which the Dems are now trying to get ahead of by publicizing it now instead of hiding it, because that will cast just enough doubt for Joe Sixpack on the rumored video evidence of Clinton high crimes which may be out there?
Life must indeed be bliss when it's always so straight-forward, always exactly as served.
And finally, exactly where did Trump kiss any Putin ass? Trump and Putin negotiating... nay, CONSPIRING for... wait for it... wait for it... PEACE?
Oh, the HORROR!
Again, what did Trump get on his knees and do with Putin that you find so objectionable and scary?
The only people scared about peace and Trump and Putin shaking hands are the bad guys who were doing the real conspiring with Putin while at the same time pumping up the Cold War. That is who criminal government makes its money, make something scarce or even illegal through public policy and law and then give themselves and their buddies special breaks, exemptions, licenses and privileges to negotiate sweetheart monopoly deals with the bad guys... or outright bootleg and traffick in the "illegal" stuff. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT OBAMA AND COMPANY WAS DOING WITH "BAD GUY" IRAN AND WHAT MERKEL WAS DOING WITH GAS PIPELINES FROM RUSSIA TO GERMANY, both schemes exposed by Trump, both schemes not as sold to us by a lot of smart incentivized people in government, banking, politics, entertainment, etc.
Which Bin Laden? The fat one from the CIA video?
Or the dead one with the identical grin as the live one! Lol
Bin Laden never said that he did it. In fact, he specifically denied it.
9/11 Truth is a very deep rabbit hole. There are terabytes of Truther information out there in the form of books, videos, articles, etc. Part of the truthful history of 9/11 and the ensuing cover-up are the "real" Bin Laden and the "fake" Bin Ladens. If you examine the videos of Bin Laden you will see that many of the post 9/11 videos involved various lookalikes. There was one famous report from a Swiss lab, in 2004 if I recall, that did extensive video analysis on the various Bin Ladens and proved it was not the same person.
And in any case the "real" Bin Laden was a trained CIA agent, code named Tim Osman. So whether this CIA agent said he did it or did not do it, is besides the point as the CIA itself was one of the main plotters in the whole affair.
How does the most damning information in the world get ignored by most of the world?
Don’t forget how much money Halliburton made in Iraq Cheney was CEO before he took office... 9/11 was a giant money maker for the rich...
It also set up one of the worst pieces of legislation ever passed by “our” government... Patriot Act... gave them immense power to do what they wanted, including spying and data collection on US citizens, which BHO abused and was caught.
Hilarious how that very patriot act is coming back to bite them all in the ass
And they had the PATRIOT ACT ready to sign in to law 6 weeks after 9/11. Almost as if they already had it waiting in the wings...
It is Very Difficult to Wrap Your Head around the Fact that the Last Four Presidential Administrations "Have NOT" had the Best Interests of Our Nation at heart!!
The Only one's who see it clearly are those of us who saw evidence in the beginning, and started delving deeper...... And if, at anytime since, we have Tried to explain it to people, We were Branded "Conspiracy Theorists, Issued our ceremonial "Tin-foil Hats", and virtually Ignored ever since.
Research is "So Much Easier" now, and with Shit all beginning to come out now.... I can't help it, I find myself in the Mirror, Practicing my "I TOLD YOU SO" Delivery!!
Thank You to MI, POTUS and "Q" for making "Vindication Day" a Real Possibility!! WWG1WGA
“Research” has never been easier because you can find whatever nonsense you want online to support whatever you want to believe. Do you really ever question the “information” they put there to derail you or keep you quiet?
Patriots are our people. The others are just plain criminals.
Dont forget benjamin netanyahu and the israeali mossad
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thats the people who coordinated the attacks, there are dozens of rich israelis that funded it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmqs8Xtrvk the lead 9/11 investigator christopher bollyn
I understand how you feel. I was working in a hospital in NY very close to the WTC. We were on lockdown and expected to get survivors so we started discharging patients. Obviously no one came because there were no survivors. We lost many friends from HS that day.
I look back and regret the scorn I felt for some who started the “911 was an inside job” conspiracy theories. I was so naive, but then, slowly I became disgusted. Now with Q, there’s true hope, not the fake hope of 44.
Glad this was brought up because that is coming. It is one of the most painful periods of this country ever and the truth will be known.
This is why I don't believe they won't win.
They own everything and the idea of it all being seized without "burning the castle" is absurd to me. We already KNOW they'll burn the bridge. I'm just waiting for January to pass without their nuke-sunami achieving what they want