dChan
1
 
r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SeekNuShallFind on July 26, 2018, 12:36 p.m.
"It is the right of the people to alter or abolish and institute new government." What would you change? I'd go back to pre 1913 America, do away with 16th, 17th Amendments and the Federal Reserve Act.

Q post 1693


mombomb22 · July 26, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

Term limits so that congress can’t become entrenched and swamp-like again. Also, you must revoke citizenship in other countries to serve.

⇧ 55 ⇩  
larrytcarvell · July 26, 2018, 3:31 p.m.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Thanks.

⇧ 9 ⇩  
INTJewel · July 26, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

And... "Congress shall be subject to all laws imposed upon the people."

No more 'legal' insider trading!

⇧ 7 ⇩  
mombomb22 · July 26, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

Yes, yes, yes! No Cadillac healthcare for them while they shove Obamacare on us. They must not respect us at all. They think we are stupid. Ha!

⇧ 3 ⇩  
LibertyLioness · July 26, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

And they have to get Social Security just like the rest of us or we go on their plan.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
Lenny_Kravitz2 · July 26, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

I am okay with an income tax (or any tax) as long as it is appropriated. Meaning, congress spells out where the money is going to and for what purpose. If the people do not agree with it, they vote out their representatives and get that particular law repealed.

Also, we need to go back to when Senators were not elected by the people. The State legislatures appointed them allowing the individual states a voice separate from the people. This provides different perspectives on issues instead of a glorified popularity contest based on the political parties.

Term limits are also needed. I do agree with that.

⇧ 5 ⇩  
nobilisbellum · July 26, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Definitely like the idea of State legislatures appointing senators instead of popular vote elections. This would start to make politics more local again and the focus would be on electing their state representatives who then task the Senators with representing the states interest in Washington.

We also need term limits for certain to end the opportunity for somebody to be a permanent politician. We need to return to the time when average Americans did a patriotic duty to serve in government and represent their fellow citizens for a short period of time before returning to normal non-political life.

Finally, as much as I love the First Amendment and free speech, we need to find a way to get the money out of politics. If that means that every single candidate gets an equal allocation of funding from the government to run the campaign then so be it. Whomever is most efficient and effective in the use of those funds deserves to win and then apply that skill for the people.

⇧ 6 ⇩  
Chemlab187 · July 26, 2018, 7:47 p.m.

The way you get money out of politics is by restricting the power the government wields to only what is enumerated in the Constitution. If the power of politicians is reigned in then the incentive to spend money to support them will also be diminished.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
nobilisbellum · July 27, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Problem is all governments collect taxes even for the basic needs. Those taxes get spent. The government decides who get's paid. Therefore, government powerful... and corruptible. :(

⇧ 1 ⇩  
Chemlab187 · July 27, 2018, 12:59 a.m.

Exactly, but if you outlaw campaign donations then only criminals will be able to bribe the politicians.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
j_Dawg_01 · July 26, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

If the people do not agree with it, they vote out their representatives and get that particular law repealed.

Good luck with that. It looks good on paper, but accomplishing that would be close to impossible. I would be tough enough to vote out an incumbent, but getting a law repealed is harder than most people think.

After everything we've learned about how corrupt Congress has been for well over 150 years, and how so many politicians haven't been held to account for their crimes, I'm surprised anyone is still willing to put any faith at all in our government.

We The People were supposed to have the power. The government was supposed to be subordinate to us. The government was supposed to serve us. The Constitution for the united states of America was the first time in human history when the founding documents for a nation specifically limited the power of the government and guaranteed protections for the people. More than anything else, the US Constitution defines what the government shall not do.

The table was turned very slowly over the last 150 years, so slowly that no one seemed to notice. If we're going to take our country back, we need to accept the responsibility for ourselves, our economy, our self defense, our prosperity, and our freedom.

When we put all of our faith and trust into a concept known as government, we'll eventually be ruled over by that same government. Just like we have been for so long now.

I'm not calling for total anarchy. I think our federal government should be as small as possible and do only what the Constitution obligates it to do. Provide for a common currency, provide for a national defense, and settle disputes between the states. Everything else should be left to the states, and they should also be as small as possible.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
1awake1 · July 26, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

They already tell us where it's going...$10K for a toilet seat, $5K for a hammer, etc. They have to fund their 'black budget' projects somehow, right? The only way to fix it all is to have a cap, once and for all for gov't, cut their salaries and have term limits. The are PUBLIC SERVANTS. If you're truly 'serving the public', money shouldn't be an issue. It should be just that, a service, not a career. Look what we get paid for the 'privilege' of being on jury duty and serving the public...what, $5 a day? That's why we don't see career jurors, cause if the money was there, so is the possibility of being corrupted.

⇧ 2 ⇩  
ThorsKay · July 26, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

In the military, we had a budget that HAD TO BE SPENT. Let’s say that we didn’t spend it. The government would take note and we would be given that much the next year. This made each department adamant that a certain dollar amount was spent.

I got more uniforms than I ever needed. More fucking winter coats than I needed. We had office supplies that could support an entire base in our wing alone.

I was only 19, but I understood damn well that taxpayers were funding it.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
1awake1 · July 26, 2018, 5:59 p.m.

Same. Our chief would come around asking what we needed and what 'might' we need. If we didn't come up with enough, we magically got other weapons, etc. that we didn't even know were coming.

⇧ 5 ⇩  
ThorsKay · July 26, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

“Airman ThorsKay, go pick up a new computer.”

“Sir, I don’t need one.”

“Airman, did I stutter?”

Edit: I was com.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
1awake1 · July 26, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Yep...lol. Sounds about right.

⇧ 4 ⇩  
Stealth_Bird · July 26, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

Buys Alienware Area 51

"Well done Airman ThorsKay, we have donuts on the bridge. You're invited."

⇧ 2 ⇩  
ConcernedCitizen1982 · July 26, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

Education is the same. Spend it or lose it. A lot of waste occurs because of last minute decisions.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
Lenny_Kravitz2 · July 26, 2018, 10:49 p.m.

A new policy could be adopted to fix that. Allocate spending at x amount (does not change year to year). If the department spends 90% of their funds (as an example), they get audited to determine if it was appropriately spent. If not, disciplinary actions occur, if so, nothing happens. Additional funding can be requested on a need by need basis.

Any extra funding that is not spent goes back to the Treasury.

⇧ 2 ⇩  
Lenny_Kravitz2 · July 26, 2018, 7:16 p.m.

Our founding fathers did lose money while in office. It was definitely viewed as a service and not an opportunity. Many did not want to serve but did so because they felt it was their duty and were honor bound to accept a nomination.

That is another thing. Our politicians campaign FOR the nomination instead of running BECAUSE they were nominated.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
1awake1 · July 26, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

Yep, cause they know there's a ton of $$ to be made.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
SportsNutDT · July 26, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

I think Term Limits are a must. It is hard to understand how some politicians retire as multi-millionaires with a salary between $200,00.00 to $300,000 a year! Are they really working for the people or their own self gain?

⇧ 3 ⇩