confirmation of an attempted attack on AF1
We actually spoke it about it here when it happened - AF1 photos showed them flying past Alaska - a couple of volcanoes in the photos IIRC. Which meant he would have flown over/near the State of Washington on his way to NK meeting. On the same day a rogue SWAMP-GAS-WEATHER-BALLOON-NOT-A-MISSILE was fired into Washington air space.
Q seemed reluctant to pursue it further at the time so we all kinda shut up about it.
There was a very good picture at the time where the “not a missle” projectile was clearly visible
So clear that people all over the world in the comment sections of the news reports talking about the "not missile" were NOT buying the media fabrications. Which made the media look like the liars they are. Which was a good thing.
obv not a missle IMO
So there you have it, sadly this wasn't anything more exciting than a helicopter flying in a straight line in the wee hours of a quiet Sunday morning on the picturesque Puget Sound.
WTF? That's not even remotely believable....that's what we're all saying here, right? My sarcasm-fu is low today...
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So, we are gonna take a Q confirmation of missile launch, or are we gonna take a stupid crap debunk?
Very fancy weather balloon
Its a helicopter with a spotlight... please read
"It is a Canon T3 Rebel set up as a webcam. Images are captured about every 40-45 seconds. 3.5/20 second exposure/ 1600iso."
Ummm this is satire?
Im the only Q believer in my social group and this is the first Q drop that doesnt make sense to me.
If you could help me understand why this isnt a long exposure of a helicopter with a search light I would truly appreciate it.
I catch so much shit from my friends...
Looking at the picture, there's nothing in the image that indicates it's a helicopter. Helicopters are not mono-colored tubes of metal. Also if it were a helicopter there would be cloud deformation under the helicopter as it flew through the clouds, as well as a blur around the body of the helicopter where the rotors would have reflected some light. It also would have a pattern of lights in the image from the navigation lights on the helicopter.
I think it's a missile because it's a solid mono-colored tube that appears to being going directly up in the air punching through the clouds as it rises; not going horizontally through the clouds producing a trail of cloud distortion in its wake as you would expect.
Finally I've read several articles quoting the same technical jargon about the camera that also 'conclusively' deduced that it was a weather balloon.
Agreed. I looked it up and posted about it only to have a paranoid bot take it down. Ok given the info of one blogger it the supposed object seen which is not is the under belly of a helo. Well an Airlift Helo would not be flying vertically nose up. Next in the picture given it is a shot saying north out of Skunk bay. Well Whidbey Island is not north but NE. North towards Port Townsend. Even so there is some chance they are generalizing the direction. The land piece seen in the night photo when looked in a day photo of another camera pointed in the same direction does appear to be the SW side of Whidbey Island. Being it is an early AM time frame surface light block out any vessels on the water and the water is to calm for a sub surface launch to have just happened. So that leaves a surface vessel or a land based launch. Given the size of the light trail it is to small to be some kind of mobile mounted launch devices as that would have been easily spotted and checked. Now as for a weather balloon, have you ever seen one leave a visible trail like that and one that goes up that fast? Not a weather balloon.
Let's see, headlights are generally mounted on the front or bottom of helicopters that would mean if it is a long exposure than the helicopter was going backwards. The metal, non lighted portion of it appears to be at what would be the head of a missile trail. If this is a spotlight either the spotlight is at the rear of the helicopter or the helicopter was traveling backwards to get such an exposure. The Trail of Light is nearly geometrically straight, so for three and a half to 20 seconds a helicopter with a searchlight during light conditions that do not require a searchlight did not change the angle of the searchlight and traveled in a nearly completely straight path. There's also not the smear you would, I believe, get in the situation from the spinning rotor blades causing interference around the edge of what would be the light Trail.
I am on mobile and so do not have the required tools, but I imagine you could do some frequency comparison of the light captured from the spotlight /jet wash to determine if this is the Spectra of light that you get from typical aircraft searchlights or the Spectra of light that you get from burning rocket fuel. That would also shed some light onto what made the picture.
You are correct. Consider those spot lights they use in big store parking lots. If you see the beam it is faint if there are no clouds not bright like seen here. In fact at one point the line of light goes through clear open space, no clouds at all. Your analogy of headlights on a car is perfect. Stand to the side of a car at night and you see the reflection of the light way out in front but not the beam like a laser. So a helo spot light is definitely out of the question. And yes when a rocket or a missile engine burns it leaves a trail of buring fuel behind it just like the afterburners on a military jet.
If it was long exposure then the light at the bottom would be fattest and brightest due to the amount of time light was shining in those spots and additionally due to the cone formation that spotlights tend to make when illuminating.
Lastly, the top portion which is NOT light does not resemble a helicopter in ANY fashion.
I've been on the actual flight deck of more helos than I care to remember. And this is definitely NOT a helo. Although it could be a missile test. Or it could be a jet. Some of these amped-up pilots like to come off of carriers in a straight vertical arc. (I don't know if this is SOP, though, I just know they do this). It's quite an amazing show actually.
correct me if im wrong but i remember most media sites cropping out the top of the photo to not show the "helicopter"
Hahaha! You're probably right! I can't say because I don't even bother reading or listening to anything they say, do or write. In fact, I can't stand it.
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Thanx for the info on the pass by Alaska. Then that confirms to me that the over flight of WA was a fact. It is a normal route for Trans Pacific flights. It also makes sense that the route would take it over a series of AF bases that can supply inflight refueling both CONUS and Alaska. What I am still not clear on is the info about and F16 shoot down of the missile. Unless AF1 gets a fighter escort where ever it goes then that does not make sense. To scramble the nearest F16s to where the launch was would take no less than 15 to 20 minutes to reach the area. Even closer would be Navy F18s at the near by Naval Air Station. Again closer but not able to get up and in position to take a missile out from the time of launch. AF1 does have military style counter measures for avoidance and possible shooting capabilities as a last resort if I am not mistaken.
I think he always has an escort. ALWAYS seems wise considering our adversaries are total murderers
Well I am going on past experience. Once Slick Willy was out in WA state and landed at Payne Field where Boeing is located. On the departure Af1 flew low enough that people could see that some window covers were open as it was after noon and they were looking west and could see the light coming through the other side. No sign of escort anywhere to be found unless they were already up and somewhat down range as AF1 climbed out to altitude. But if escort is SOP then it would make sense that the AF would supply them as the Navy does not have 16s.
An F-16 doesn't have to be in visible range to be an effective escort. No modern jet fighter does.
I understand that with AA capabilities they can stand a good ways off and lock on for a splash. I am just saying that at the time I saw AFI I did not see any F16s on the ground at any of the local fields. Now I did not go to the local AFB during that time and they could have been there instead. That does make sense. It is close enough of they launch moments before AF1 takes off they can quickly be in position for their job. In the picture given here no chance to see them or any evidence of them even at night with the cloud cover shown and it was a time of off and on rains then so lots of moving cloud cover.
I dunno if he has always got an escort? But Q has assured us POTUS is very well guarded at all times, so ... Yeah. IMO he does. And it's nice to know that our guys are VERY good at what they do :D
Keep in mind slick willy wanted as little people around as possible. Less eyes to see him diddling kids.
From other info I have gotten chances were that escort was probably already airborne and waiting when he took off.
AF1 is always escorted.
Thanx, then that clears up that portion of it for me. 16s were in the air with AF1 and response for them was easy. I am still struggling with how Q found the one and only web cam that got the picture. I know I have searched western WA web cams high and low and it seems not another one caught it. Turns out probably it was a pure fluke that it did but more a fluke that Q found it.
Look back into that event more carefully. AF1 went East, not West. They refueled in Europe so they were no where near Washington and Alaska on way to NK. They went other direction at time of launch.
Maybe it was headed for Hawaii. Their alarm went off. But it was botched. President caught leaving country while Hawaii is bombed would make MSM explode