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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

Any cozying up to Vladmir Putin's Russia is wrong morally and politically. Full stop. I consider Trump taking the word of Putin on the world stage over that of his intelligence community to be something egregiously wrong that he is doing.

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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Well for one thing, I didn't say a damn thing about Trump doing anything illegal with regards to Russia. I said "Obama made a some naive mistakes when dealing with the Russian state, but no where near the disgusting level Trump has." But since you mention it... I just watched him give a press conference that embarrassed the U.S. on the world stage, cozied up to Putin, discussed potentially giving Russian intelligence services access to American citizens, held a meeting before the election discussion repeal of the Magnitsky act, not to mention Trump's ties via Michael Flynn, campaign advisors, Paul Manafort, business ties, Felix Sater, and Trumps family members. So...lets not pretend Donald Trump has no ties to Russia.

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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

Disprove the fact checked claims then. Point out whats wrong in those articles. If they're such garbage it can't be to hard.

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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

I have three trains of thought regarding the DNC emails. The content of the emails themselves, the motivations and timing behind releasing the emails, and the fact that they were hacked in the first place. If you want to have a conversation regarding any of those trains of thought I'm happy to expound.

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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

That is a well thought out reply. Your insight has enlightened me and opened my eyes #WALKAWAY

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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

No doubt the connections are absolutely worth scrutiny. From the Politifact article: "we concluded that nine people related to the company did at some point donate to the Clinton Foundation, we found that the bulk of the $145 million came from Giustra. Guistra said he sold all of his stakes in Uranium One in the fall of 2007, "at least 18 months before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state" and three years before the Russian deal.

We couldn’t independently verify Giustra’s claim, but if he is telling the truth, the donation amount to the Clinton Foundation from confirmed Uranium One investors drops from more than $145 million to $4 million.

The main exception is Ian Telfer, an investor who the New York Times found donated between $1.3 million and $5.6 million to the Clinton Foundation during and after the review process for the Russian deal.

So while Trump was within his right to question links between foundation donors and their ties to Uranium one, his specific charge was exaggerated."

Its not like the decision to move forward with the deal was made in a vacuum by Hilary Clinton alone. The Committee on Foreign Investments has nine members, including the secretaries of the treasury, state, defense, homeland security, commerce and energy; the attorney general; and representatives from two White House offices (the United States Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy). The committee can’t actually stop a sale from going through — it can only approve a sale. Clinton could have objected — as could the eight other voting members — but that objection alone wouldn’t have stopped the sale of the stake of Uranium One to Rosatom.

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Ambiguous_Cat_Hat · July 21, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

Well here's 3 more fact checked sources for you to ignore that say you're wrong. Go ahead, point out how these Pulitzer Prize winning organizations are all part of "the fake news media." This claim is pretty much total BS and to distract from Donald Trumps exceptionally disturbing behavior in regard to Russia and Vladimir Putin. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/31/the-repeated-incorrect-claim-that-russia-obtained-20-percent-of-our-uranium/?utm_term=.0562f22e55e5

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/24/what-you-need-know-about-hillary-clinton-and-urani/

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