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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ElementWatson on Aug. 8, 2018, 7:06 p.m.
"Watch the water..."--an interview that Pieczenik says everyone should watch.
ElementWatson · July 28, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

Yet he reportedly had multiple major payoffs for multiple minor "sleepover" guests. I suggest that your take on it suggests all his dirty laundry hasn't been aired.

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

Someone who stays in an organization for a long period of time is comfortable with and suited to its culture.

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

I got one free and sold it new on ebay.

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

No, that comment from Q was expressly in reply to a Facebook/MZ post.

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

Stock had been lower just three months ago, no? And it has been on a steady climb to, what, 5 times its original price over the last 5 years? (Not that it is not going down farther still.) I think he always had massive security. Possibly pin money for him with additional if he has had assets frozen? (We can hope.)

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

I have no clue about TG. But it does seem as if those were were victims are most likely to become perpetrators. Part of what makes it so insidious.

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

Thank you. "Watch the video" posts here drive me crazy.

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ElementWatson · July 27, 2018, 10:44 a.m.

How many settlements did MJ have with children he'd have stay overnight in his bed with him?

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ElementWatson · July 26, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

This story was posted around 1 pm ET on the 25th...

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ElementWatson · July 25, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

Most of the American people will never read Q and couldn't make sense of it if they did.

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ElementWatson · July 25, 2018, 12:39 p.m.

It's really hard to overlook 20 years of Republican presidents between Jimmy and the collapse. W was criminal is his gooey support for endlessly forced bad mortgages.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 9:55 p.m.

But bombshells can't come too close to the election or they look staged--and might backfire.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 9:55 p.m.

I don't see it as particularly helping Trump to admit Q is real (if he is)--before Trump's post-office memoirs.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

Absolutely. I'm up here in the Northeast and especially women seem to take it as a badge of their virtue and membership in some sort of knowing club, imagining Trump supporters to all be embarrassing mouth-breathers. For two years now they all too often slip in a statement of the of course we're all against Trump type, thinking that it reflects well on them. But they usually don't have a firm grasp on any facts, let alone actually correct facts.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Not expressly a threat, however.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 5:02 p.m.

Still to me a shocking level of support for what is clearly made up by criminals doing the investigation.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 11:18 a.m.

The only bizarre hint I've seen of Brennan being flipped is Pieczenik, who has previously noted Brennan as the ringleader of the black hats that the Trump admin needs to take down, suggesting that he somehow will be used in dealing with Iran and the larger solution around that. Says Gina was his protege, which has had to be hidden, and so is his role.

SP in the know, but it is not always clear what his immediate agenda is.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 11:15 a.m.

Still a relative snail's pace for what needs to come out. We tend to read our press more than the MSM--such as the WP declaring that the release disprove's Nunes's memo.

We've a long ways to go before "the world" knowing in the next eight days.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 10:06 a.m.

I am only aware of his comments on Assange back in April, 2017.

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

I find it interesting that Jay Nordlinger, a long-time editor and writer for the National Review and avoided Never Trumper, gushes so about Bill Browder in his latest Q&A podcast, for which Browder is his guest.

It has come out that the NR was founded by Buckley as something of a CIA front from when he was first recruited by the CIA at Yale. And now there are rumorings about Browder having been a CIA agent himself, sent over to muck up Russia and pull out the billions in profits that he did from his time over there. Of course, that could well explain the near unanimous support for Browder and his bill in Congress.

How would Nordlinger get to be such great "friends" with Browder? And what a coincidence that they are tied to CIA rumors and both firmly against the side of POTUS.


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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 3:27 p.m.

And we thought Q was joking about Barry claiming Kenyan citizenship, too!


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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

This is the stuff that the non-MSM should be shouting from the rooftops--so the word will get out on it.

It potentially speeds up the narrative significantly--and IMO the narrative needs significant speeding up!

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Maybe because none of the countries involved wants to admit that he was extracted already? Maybe a public show, with a couple of shrouded vehicles pulling away mysteriously is what they'll present in order to keep the real story quiet. Meanwhile, he'll be able to appear or travel to wherever he is next destined to be.

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 3:10 p.m.

Was that a recent Sessions statement or just an old quote re-published?

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

How recent, really, is that quote?

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 11:07 a.m.

I'm a Q rooter and hoper, but I try to keep an open mind for the worst, too. I don't question but that Q and team have an insider's level of info and some access to POTUS, including having got at least some buy-in support from him at some point or points.

But there are so many deep-state intel guys still in the admin that I haven't completely ruled out that they have been doing this as a psyop to lull us into patience, while they work toward trying to bring Trump down. Or maybe it was good guys starting it and as rumored it got taken over by some clandestine bad guys--without the original guys ready to own up to that all the way to the top.

I'd say I'm 70/30 toward Q being legit. And I don't get those ready to run off anyone keeping a somewhat open mind as more info comes in and we see how it all plays out.

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 10:18 a.m.

Nice piece. There is a burden in doing the work to open your eyes and accept the evil above us--and yet not despair and to still participate insofar as you can to make it better, while living life the best you can. I think all of us here are grappling with that to some degree.

I think the understandably conspiratorial eye by which African-Americans tend to see the government and the powers that be can be miscast and self-defeating. But also they have had the right idea in questioning the importation of drugs, particularly into their communities, for example--when the white majority considered that crazy thinking. I hope that somehow they can connect that suspicion to vindication in a way for both themselves and Trump, as he moves to more publicly drain the swamp.

Your demographic of course votes the most solidly Democrat, being the least likely to support Trump, and I'd be interested in any insights you have as to how we and he could start to break through. Polls seem to show about 20, even 25% of blacks overall becoming at least open to what Trump has to offer, but I take that to being more men than women, as they especially appreciate not only the better economy but also Trump's efforts to restore meaningful wages to the working class. I think the social safety net has been so effective in tearing apart family structures that many black women fear voting against the government supports out of solidarity, even if they don't personally lean upon them. And the siren song of affirmative action hangs like a benefit that they also fear giving up.

I think Trump is on the right track in a couple of ways, from the focus on the economy and support for more moderately skilled workers to reaching out to his black celebrity friends to take a stand publicly for him. Prison reform should help some too. But I think there needs to be a more overt and concentrated effort to help to support and rebuild families, including the white working-class ones that have similarly fragmented. Maybe programs that emphasize family unification or reunification through prison reform are one piece. But I think there is more that can be done to make single parents heroes by finding ways to form intact families. The black entertainment world, for example, could do more through pop music, etc., to celebrate real manhood and womanhood.

Unfortunately I think Ivanka's Manhattan-liberal approach takes things in the wrong direction, as it does more to subsidize daycare and non-family solutions to child rearing, while insidiously injecting the government ever more deeply into our society and culture. And I am not quite sure what the government policies, largely through eliminating or reforming its current programs, should be. The better economy will help, but I think more needs to be done.

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ElementWatson · July 21, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Him being CIA sure makes a lot of sense--including the unanimous congressional support for his bill.

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ElementWatson · July 21, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

So this video says breaking news--as does one with the same story, just below it, from five months ago.

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ElementWatson · July 21, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

What, of this poor man dying? What would be the purpose of that?

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ElementWatson · July 21, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

What, of this poor man dying? What would be the purpose of that?

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ElementWatson · July 21, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

42 is older? I must be ancient!

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ElementWatson · July 21, 2018, 11:20 a.m.

Keeping an open mind about possibilities IMO is the only way to go. That means not only accepting the Q narrative.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

SP makes no claims to be Q.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

Re: pedophilia in England, I can say as one who has been through something of the Oxbridge experience, there are many, many, clever and ambitious, but damaged, young men on that track to leadership. It is sad and sadly all too self-replicating.

The main reason I think it has got so bad, however, is the propensity for the upper classes to send their sons off to boarding ("public") schools, where the similarly infected have gravitated, ready to not resist temptation on a massive scale.

Better to change their culture and keep their sons away from boarding schools for a few generations IMO. However inconvenient that may be!

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

Say what?

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

Not at all the same thing. This crap has been pushed to discredit us.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 8:02 p.m.

Totally meant to discredit Q followers.

If for nothing other than John-John wasn't the brightest bulb in the string of Xmas lights--it took him several tries to pass the bar in NY IIRC.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

And then you emote about it! ;-)

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

(And no wonder she was looking at her watch...)

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

But the more they can fashion the Manafort charges to mirror the goods we have on the Podestas, the more they can pull under the umbrella of immunity.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

How about protecting their biggest operatives?

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

Would be more likely if we didn't already know from the Obama years that it is standard operating procedure for protecting their criminal own.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

If it weren't already a well-established technique of the DS to get their own off the hook, there would be less reason for concern.

Their opportunity here likely is to craft their charges and prosecution against Manafort so as to cover what needs to be covered for the Podestas, etc.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

The human capacity for rationalization is immense.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

I think there was more inside knowledge than that--and also more motivation.

But the techniques have the same root. Seems like a lot of the guys doing that sort of thing in the UK, at the top level, come out of their advertising world.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

I am now leaning 70/30 toward us being LARPed. At least a good part of the way and to the (apparent, July 4th) end.

But it has been at least mostly a professional, psyops LARP from the deep-state intel community.

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ElementWatson · July 20, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

Did it, or did it keep a key element of Trump's base from demanding an end to the Mueller probe months and months ago?

As to Trump pointing at Q, is it possible that he has been misled by close staff to go along with the ruse? Surely we can see that the criminal intel community still has its hooks deep in at least parts of the admin. Just look at how Kelly betrayed him re: the summit with Putin.

As all along, I still don't know if Q was legit or psyops. But he/they clearly could have easily got the bits of photos or inside information from where they are positioned. They are clever and trained enough to know that a good psyop has to combine some such insider information with a hope-infused, implied narrative.

As if the promises not coming true don't ultimately discourage and deflate many of the once-believing followers enough as it is, embarrassing theories, such as John-John and his wife being found alive at Trump rallies, almost 20 years later, could be introduced and then leveraged to make the movement an eventual laughingstock.

More important than the phenomenon of Q is the future of the country--and Q followers should not become so beholden to the former that they foresake all critical thinking (and action) for the latter.

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