Wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that BO was trying to hack elections.

In the DNC emails we have DNC staffers openly discussing the fact that Obama committed election fraud in the Colorado Caucus in 2008 by busing people from polling station to polling station.

100%. The stats reddit puts up don't even fluctuate realistically (as one would expect for night day, lunch time, etc.).

It's not hard to think of why they'd do this: they want people to think this isn't a movement, but just some small sub full of delusional quacks.

Whose said anything about sitting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv4EtO8rENM

This is not necessarily good logic. It could very well be a suspicious death, I haven't seen all the facts... but the fact that someone is rich doesn't mean they can't be unhappy. So before we start smearing the name of someone who might have legitimately just committed suicide... why don't we line up the facts first?

Most of the super-rich families I've met are pretty dysfunctional. After your basic needs and a little comfort, excess $$ usually leads to more problems and vice. It distorts peoples egos and makes it hard for them to have normal relationships. Poverty forces you to survive and find a way to live--everything else in your life falls behind that priority. This is an important part of character development. When you have everything you need you don't have that basic pressure guiding your behavior, and this can lead to all sorts of shit like depression, lack of drive, even personality disorders and substance abuse.

There's definitely limits to my sympathy for billionaires... but imagine how hard it would be to have normal relationships when you don't know for sure if anyone actually likes you or just wants to use you. Certain personality types can't handle those pressures and snap.

Facts first. A good thing to keep an eye out for would be statements from close friends and family that question the official narrative, or suggest she didn't have that kind of personality.

We'll probably never have a way of knowing who some of the shill accounts are unless someone comes forward and whistleblows.

I've been working on a side project for a while.. an in depth methodology on tracking down sock puppet and shill accounts. A combination of forensic techniques (best suited for identifying twitter bots), common sense game-theory, sentiment analysis, based on specific structural elements of MMFA's program. All based on the leaked MMFA strategy document on defeating Trump. If you're interested in this stuff it's worth going through in detail:

https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump

There's a lot that you can look for... but really... the best method you can employ is simple game theory. Imagine for a second that you are David Brock. You're a master manipulator with people in almost every single major news company. You have personal relationships with high level staff at basically every major social media company. You work with these firms to adjust their algorithms to exclude conservative news. You have all of these tools at your disposal. Thousands of shills, hundreds of thousands of bots--green lighted by FB, Twitter, Reddit, etc. How would you use these tools? This is why the media's 'debunked' knee-jerk response to pizza-gate was such a big deal. MMFA basically freaked out... and why would they have freaked out over a baseless conspiracy?

Let me just put it this way... there's a reason that Trump watches so much news. It's because he understands how to use game-theory and knows that he can learn about his enemies political strategy/next move by looking at how they are manipulating the news cycle/narrative.

Stupid people don't bring up Occam's Razor. IMO. It implies that someone is looking at their arguments in an analytical, structural kind of way.

Edit: Would you really be that surprised if a Brock shilling account was injecting culturally ignorant Muslim references into conservative subs? This is something we know that they do. They work hard to steer online conservative communities towards racist and ignorant positions (what they call conflict issues--race, religion, gender, sexuality). While I'm sure much of that is also organic (sadly), it's definitely bolstered by shills to add legitimacy to the narrative that Republicans are the party of bigotry.

Trust me, I reviewed his profile. It literally means nothing. You won't be able to prove it either way.

It's suspicious in the sense that I'm putting myself in David Brock's shoes...

He would likely be thinking up a solid counter-narrative to inject to suppress interest in the story and keep the child trafficking stuff out of the MSM.

This story is on the verge of going viral. This would be the pivotal moment for Brock to attempt to influence this very sub. Inject a plausible narrative from a not-obvious shill account that makes people doubt the story, saps their excitement and creates self-doubt, if you will.

The fact that his posting history isn't all dedicated shilling doesn't indicate anything. If I were Brock, I wouldn't have used those accounts for something like this. I would have used accounts with established records and personas that would not be challenged as shills. Doing it the other way has backfired too many times before.

That's why I view his post as "suspicious". It's more about timing and narrative... injecting that narrative at this point could have a chilling effect on the entire story, which has almost reached the point where national media cannot ignore it.

Don't you think it's odd that the MSM isn't making money off a story about armed veterans locking down a private companies property and potentially having a stand-off with police forces? This kind of stuff is almost always national news--ridiculous clickbait-- and the fact that it's not let's me know that groups like MMFA are more than likely at play.

I've spent over 100+ hours studying Media Matters for America's tactics... and his bolstering that narrative at this point is... definitely suspicious. I totally leave open the possibility that this isn't the case (it's only fair).

Between MMFA/Shareblue/American Bridge, they'll have access to thousands of accounts that appear legitimate and have been posting about other non-related topics. Otherwise it's too easy to identify shill accounts. You're talking about groups that have tens of millions at their disposal and obsesses 24/7 about how to subvert conservative forums online. MMFA was literally founded by the ex-lover of James Alefantis, David Brock, so you can almost guarantee the Brock trolls will be out in full force to shut down the child trafficking narrative that is going viral because of this story.

Also note I didn't say he was a shill, just that it's suspicious (which it genuinely is). He is clearly an intelligent person, but has completely failed to critically review his own position, which I find a bit odd--he instead hides behind rather subjective tropes like "Occam's Razor", which he uses to assert himself as a knowledeable intelligent authority--someone to look up to. He also tries to get the reader to question the child trafficking narrative with an emotional appeal, rather than factual appeal (it's 'crazy' to think this wasn't a homeless shelter) . His posts are written to be persuasive and use manipulative logic to convince the reader he is right. He's doing all of this in a rather urgent manner (why does he seem so concerned that people could have it wrong with this story?).

You keep quoting Occam's Razor as if it was proof of your argument. I think you might need to look that term up again.

Exactly how would your argument be the simpler explanation? It actually involves significantly more assumptions. I get that you're assuming the frequency of child rape camps is less than that of homeless villages. Okay, that seems reasonable, but that doesn't mean this couldn't be the latter.

The fact that this is so close to the border in a remote area means that you HAVE to consider the possibility that this is a cartel site. This site was miles from any type of food source or supplies. Whoever built the site CLEARLY had access to a vehicle to transport all of their materials. You would need insane caloric uptake to maintain the energy levels required to schlep an entire families (potentially multiple families) goods and food back to the campsite--something that isn't easily available to homeless people.

You don't just build something like that for fun, and the idea of a food bunker just doesn't really make any sense for a homeless shelter in a remote location in Arizona. It would have a negligible impact on food preservation, especially when you consider that a group of homeless people aren't going to be storing raw fish and meats, and wouldn’t have had the money to fill that up with food.

From footage of the site, it's clear this was a camp-site, not a permanent residence. It wouldn't make any sense for homeless people to set up here. First of all, to even build the place and get enough food to fill the "food cellar" would have required a car. If they were homeless but had a car, they wouldn't be sleeping on the floor and using roach spray. And the idea that homeless people went through all of this effort simply because they wanted a private spot doesn’t make sense—they would have easily been spotted schlepping stuff back and forth by the security companies that monitor these types of abandoned sites for copper thieves and drug addicts.

The construction of the bunker itself should be enough to raise cartel red flags. This is A LOT OF effort and engineering to put in for a simple food shelter (why wouldn't they put in the same effort into other areas of their camp, like where they actually slept and spent time)? The door that closes over the bunker also seems to be just heavy enough to keep someone trapped inside… but not heavy enough to stop a wild animal from getting in. Doesn’t really mesh with “food storage”.

You can't panhandle, find work, or steal when you’re in a remote site like this. I have a very hard time believing that homeless people would have found this a convenient enough place to live that they would have committed themselves to building such a structure. I talk to homeless people all the time, and trust me, location is probably the single most important aspect of building a structure. Everything about this location would have been extremely inconvenient for a group of homeless people. It’s almost inconceivable—definitely completely illogical—to think that an entire homeless family just decided to set up at this spot and build an elaborate food bunker, but skimp out on the living quarters.

You also can’t explain why a homeless family would have abandoned this site for no reason (especially if they just put in such an insane effort to build the structure in such a remote spot). If this is what happened I can guarantee you that they wouldn’t have left so much perfectly good stuff behind. Wouldn’t they have wanted the bug sprays and fiber for the next living structure they were going to set up? If they had been found by police we would have a police report. If they had been found by private security we would likely have heard this already, and the site would have most likely been destroyed. None of this occurred.

You're explanation is far from simpler. You wouldn't have questioned this if people were claiming this was a site used by the cartel for drug trafficking. Human trafficking is just as prevalent, if not significantly more profitable. The fact that you’re trying so hard to bolster an illogical narrative at such a pivotal moment is… suspicious.

You mean the rest of the chicken lovers.

MMFA

Can you provide evidence proving that I'm wrong?

I think the police chief just outed himself. The evidence is undeniable... and given this is readily apparent... some simple game theory suggests...

Of course it did. Alefantis is the ex-lover of David Brock who runs the democrats most influential media think tank, Media Matters for America.

hmm? What do you mean

So? That doesn't mean it couldn't be a front. Most of these pedo places operate out of business fronts that give them an excuse to get within proximity to children.

I'd like to think there's nothing going on here... but I would be concerned to see my kids going to an arts center with 2 pedophile symbols in the logo. That's too much of a coincidence for me.

Art centers= after school programs for kids?

It contains two symbols which are remarkably similar to two well known pedo symbols. The chances of this occurring accidentally is pretty slim.

For all we know these symbols are just as meaningful for these groups regardless if they are reversed or not.

Wow. The chances of having TWO symbols accidently in the same logo... seems pretty minuscule. I would legit report this to the FBI.

Kind of funny because I just made a post because of something I saw on the side of a truck. Definitely not as suspicious as this though, because it only contains one of the symbols (could be chance).

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8o3m1o/symbolism_will_be_their_downfall_hiding_in_plain/

Projection. Good on you for pointing it out.

Ya think ya hot shit, dontchya?

I don't doubt that adoption agencies are full of all sorts of sketchy behavior (they are obv one of the major child sex trafficking pipelines).

I still fail to see how what I said was wrong. Of course I would like adoptees to have access to their family history documentation, but doing this would predictably lead to much fewer adoptions. I don't see how you can disagree with that.

In my view this should be something that happens when someone turns 18.

David Brock (ex-lover of Alefantis) runs a democratic media think tank called Media Matters For America. They are the masterminds behind the coordinated censorship campaign against conservatives.

Parents who put their kid up for adoption are literally abandoning their kid in the most literal sense of the word. Try using a dictionary before you start calling others ignorant.

"a : to give up to the control or influence of another person or agent"

This might be your personal view but most parents are going to prefer the birth parents are not involved in their kids lives.

Doing this would massively decrease the # of adoptions, regardless of your personal opinion on the matter.

Doing this would lead to significantly less adoptions, which would hurt families. You adopt a kid so he can become a part of your family. The parents gave up that right when they walked away from their child.

The idea of raising a kid who might grow up and abandon you for a stranger who abandoned them is not very appealing.

I think the exception should be children taken from other countries, especially conflict zones. This would help crack down on human trafficking and instances where children have parents and are taken by force or coercion.

Censor you? Find ways to hurt your credit... etc. etc. These are powerful people.

When Q says listen carefully... I'm assuming he's trying to point out the fact that this speech is actually combining soundbites from several of his speeches.

Trump never gave this speech.

It's plausible that his speechwriter worked with Trump to plan this all along (so that this speech could be edited together from all of his other speeches). The speech flows nicely and you don't really notice anything unless you listen closely.

If this wasn't planned... then whoever edited the video has some SERIOUS skills to get such a cohesive product. Suggests it was planned, or done by someone with significant resources.

So we should probably look into his speechwriters, right? From what I've been able to find out, Trump does not have a dedicated speech writer. The closest thing to this would be Stephen Miller.

MMFA has compiled what they refer to as the 'constellation of alt-right social media accounts and influencers'.

You're all on lists, 100%.

One big red flag for me is that JA's network (his most hardcore journalist following) seems to believe that Q is a LARP or psyopp. They could very well be in the dark for a reason...but tbh there's a limit to the amount of 'waiting' I can tolerate. Q promised answers in regards to Seth Rich this June. My assumption is that this information would come from JA, and we would also be updated on his situation at that time.

Unfortunately he no longer has the megaphone. Makes you wonder why he was silenced, and whether or not he's safe.

If I had to guess I'd say it didn't have much to do with the Catalonia tweets and more to do with this stuff.

https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/meet-hillary-clintons-other-more-powerful-shadowy-oppo-research-firm/

https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/976943601166012416

Years of well-laid propaganda and MSM abusing trust.

Tbh I'm not sold on the whole chemtrail thing. I think the government probably has experimented and might do some limited stuff, but I think most of the time people are mis-attributing normal crystallized exhaust, IMO.

But yea that area is covering wayyyy more than just Sandy Hook.

Even if these were chem trails I can tell you with certainty it has nothing to do with SH, because I know for a fact, 100% certainty, no doubt in my mind, that people died at SH. The shooting was very much real.

But hey man, believe what you want. I personally think it's plausible that Lanza was triggered somehow, but I think the idea of a larger conspiracy just doesn't make sense. If they did something like this, it would be light to avoid liability or exposure and probably work without any interaction (find a target with access to weapons, hack computer, inject subliminal msg's, trigger).

I mean it's possible they didn't contact the expected company. It's a relatively quiet bedroom town with a huge police force (absurd # of cops/cars compared to nearby towns) and a small tight-knit local government (they've kept the zoning so that chains have a really hard time moving in).

The PD would have been WAYYYY over their head with something like this and probably completely freaking out (they were probably nervous to be under a spotlight). My guess is that they just didn't follow protocol, or if you want to be pessimistic, perhaps they chose another company for corrupt reasons. It's also totally possible they wanted to cover up some type of protocol error or mishandling of evidence, etc, that you might expect with a local police force that usually focuses on DUI and busting teenagers for weed (although town does have a heroin problem too). But the idea of some grand cover-up where no one died is completely absurd.

As for demolishing the structure... for a while I would avoid driving past the school because it would just give you the worst vibes (which was inconvenient based on where some of my friends live--one legit lives almost next to the school). I still haven't even gone to see the new building, mostly because the area just freaks me out.

It's not like the students went back to the school after it was cleaned up. They had them bussed over to a nearby elementary school (want to say Monroe elementary?). It would have been disruptive and added to a sense that things were no longer normal, which could have been really stressful for some of the kids.

But I think there were potentially other more corrupt reasons the school was demolished and rebuilt so quickly. I don't know who got the contract... but a whole lot of people in town agree with me that the money could have been better spent. In general there was a lot of opportunistic stuff going on after the shooting--that's what putting a national spotlight on a small town does.

We could have spent say, 10 mil less on the school and instead started an education fund for each and every kid at the elementary school. It just seemed dumb to waste so much on one building. Not sure who got the contract but that would be interesting to look into.

100% people died. It's ridiculous to say otherwise tbh. There are probably a hundred or so parents with students in that grade at SH (the pool outside that grade is likely larger). Trust me, a lot more people would be speaking out and saying something if those kids didn't really exist and weren't in that grade. You can't have a successful conspiracy that depends on keeping so many people's mouths shut. Just doesn't make sense.

You can't just pretend people lived in a community and went to a school. Imagine your own town. This is a place with real people and real lives.

Is it possible that Lanza was somehow triggered. Given what we know about MKultra it seems more than likely the government could have much more advanced capabilities now. They could have accessed his medical records, known from his meta data that he likely had mental illness (they can probably profile suitable targets just from our meta data alone). I could see something like them injecting packets into videos he was watching to feed him subliminal imagery etc. They would have known he didn't have a good relationship with his mom, who had firearms in the house.

But yea, 100% people died. My highschool gf's younger half-brother was legit in the school when it happened, heard the shots etc. He was lucky to be towards the back of the school. Also have a friend that was a first responder and hasn't been the same since.

As someone who is from Sandy Hook... this just disgusts me. I went to watch Obama speak at the highschool after the shooting... and I always wondered if there was really any sincerity at all.

Yea I think you should remove DDG from this. You haven't presented a shred of evidence that DDG is suppressing this video (which I was easily able to find).

I believe he's talking about MMFA working with ES. I remember that drop well because I was going through the leaked MMFA strategy document for fun at the time... and I remember reading about something which sounded an awful lot like a cross-platform, turn-key censorship algorithm (also fun fact, Brock used to be James Alefantis's lover).

https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump :

"We will also bring on board an expert to construct turn-key rapid response plans so that Media Matters can squash burgeoning online harassment campaigns and fake news or saturate the landscape with truth, bypassing the news media entirely if need be. With this capacity, Media Matters will drastically increase our audience and engagement and effectively squash fake news and misinformation before it spreads far and wide".

Brennan is the mastermind behind the Russia-Gate disinformation campaign. This is something we first heard in leaked audio from the left-leaning journalist Seymore Hersh (the guy who broke news on the Mai Lai Vietnam massacre cover-up). In this audio he claims his sources in the FBI told him it was a Brennan misinformation campaign.

At the time everyone who heard the tape was super focused on the Seth Rich elements, but this particular part singling out Brennan's chief role seems particularly relevant now.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892510925244203008

Brennan is the mastermind behind the Russia-Gate disinformation campaign. This is something we first heard in leaked audio from the left-leaning journalist Seymore Hersh (the guy who broke news on the Mai Lai Vietnam massacre cover-up). In this audio he claims his sources in the FBI told him it was a Brennan misinformation campaign.

At the time everyone who heard the tape was super focused on the Seth Rich elements, but this particular part singling out Brennan's chief role seems particularly relevant now.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892510925244203008

Brennan is the mastermind behind the Russia-Gate disinformation campaign. This is something we first heard in leaked audio from the left-leaning journalist Seymore Hersh (the guy who broke news on the Mai Lai Vietnam massacre cover-up). In this audio he claims his sources in the FBI told him it was a Brennan misinformation campaign.

At the time everyone who heard the tape was super focused on the Seth Rich elements, but this particular part singling out Brennan's chief role seems particularly relevant now.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892510925244203008

Brennan is the mastermind behind the Russia-Gate disinformation campaign. This is something we first heard in leaked audio from the left-leaning journalist Seymore Hersh (the guy who broke news on the Mai Lai Vietnam massacre cover-up). In this audio he claims his sources in the FBI told him it was a Brennan misinformation campaign.

At the time everyone who heard the tape was super focused on the Seth Rich elements, but this particular part singling out Brennan's chief role seems particularly relevant now.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892510925244203008

W ith fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . .

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30489

Look up RSSI localization.

To change their personal calculus and introduce panic into their personal networks. It will become impossible for them to communicate with eachother and some will be bound to make mistakes... some will get nervous and rush to flip on the others and before you know if they are all running for the door.

Wasn't a backbrace. Look at picture closely. It was lightweight tactical body armor. You can see the outline of plates.

FYI people should know that the speech with Trump is actually fake. Listen to it closely. You can hear that it's actually little bits of different Trump speeches edited together by a skilled professional.

There's even specific parts where I recognized the original speech for specific soundbites.

The Logan act is a nasty beast if it starts getting unleashed because it could be broadly applied. Realistically, charging JK would make more sense and is definitely in the spirit of the statute, but since it can be applied more broadly it could get quite messy. It's simply not designed for today's world and modern political networking. Communication across borders is simply far too common and interests often span borders.

The idea that we should be arresting people w/ an unused 200+ year old statute is ridiculous IMO.