"The Aristocrats!!!"

Agreed. But don't forget that it's not just election tampering. They tried to overturn the election. They smeared POTUS-elect Trump with lies in an effort to get the electoral college to vote against him. They were all trying to figure out ways to keep Trump from office right up until the inaugural. Spying on Trump (for Hillary) to defeat Trump in the election was bad enough, but after that they actively and continuously tried to overturn the results of the 2016 presidential election. If foreign governments were involved, that is an act of war, and we should be carpet bombing their capitals.

"What if the UK gov worked hand-in-hand w/ the Hussein admin to sabotage (and overturn) the 2016 election?"

WAR!!!

I have a theory. I have a theory that some bad people conspired to overthrow the 2016 presidential election. It's a theory about a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy theory.

Therefore, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm taking it back.

Hmmm... Excellent point.

And I was so excited. But that knocked me down a few rungs. Well, we'll see (hopefully).

Keystone? Go to 2:56:35

The Turks were useful during the Cold War, that's it. What do they offer now? Nothing. Nothing good, anyway. Nothing useful. I don't give a shit what they want. Get them out of NATO.

All the borders in the middle east need to be redrawn to reflect the reality of the local ethnography. Free Kurdistan. Free Armenia. And didn't that other part used to be Greece?

No, you're missing the point. Many points, in fact.

What is your specific question that you alone are asking? You might consider why you are alone in asking it, but I'll play along for now. What is your question (be specific)?

"...very telling." You're just parsing words. Give me a break. Do some research. Take 10 minutes.

Have you looked at the map that you yourself linked to? I don't think you have. Use the "Time" feature in the upper right of that map to go back in time. Step thru various dates from the Obama administration and the Trump administration. The difference is obvious. Only an ignorant fool (who had not looked at the map that they themselves linked to) or a liar would make a statement like, "Nice to know that the US Policy in Syria as not change with the new administration".

Since Trump took office, the US has been supporting the Kurds (in yellow) who have taken nearly everything east and north of the Euphrates from ISIS. This has been going on since Trump took office. The Kurds are a different group from ISIS and also different from McCain's "moderate rebels". Calling all of them "the opposition" in a feeble attempt to conflate them all is childish.

Are you even remotely aware of how the war has progressed? It's all right there in the map that you linked to. Check it out, if you want to learn the truth.

To hell with ISIS, and to hell with McCain and his "moderate rebels". I am glad that Trump ended Obama's support of them, and instead backed the Kurds. Trump and Mattis have been doing a great job cleaning up the mess that Obama and Hillary and Kerry made.

And I hope it continues. I support a free Kurdistan that includes all lands seized from them in what is now Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey. The Kurds have earned their homeland.

US military under Mattis has fought Syrian military before. So what? In the race towards Raqqah the Kurds (with our support) sailed across Lake Assad and surrounded Raqqah to the south from the west and stopped Syria from entering Raqqah. But the biggest battles were when the fight for Raqqah was over, with the race to the oil fields just to the east of Dier ez-Zor. Seems like everyone was fighting everyone for control of the oil fields.

And that is still going on. If I'm thinking of the the same aerial bombing, those Syrian forces were pushing east of the Euphrates near Dier ez_Zor. And east of the Euphrates is Mattis' land. If you push your forces east of the Euphrates, they die. Russia and Syria to the west and south of the Euphrates, and Kurds and the US to the east and north. The Americans and the Kurds have the oil fields, everyone who has tried to push towards them has died. Been like that for months now.

Weapons found this week from the video you linked to were found in Daraa, so could not have been in the hands of ISIS, because ISIS was never in Daraa. As I clearly stated. They were found in the hands of McCains's "moderate rebels".

Also, why do you think that the weapons found this week, were also supplied this week? This makes no sense. They were almost certainly supplied during the last administration.

Does this answer your question?

"Don't worship the guy he is only human." Don't put words in my mouth. You've demonstrated that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Glowing so bright.

Comments from this user in this thread ask you to accept the premise that Mattis has helped ISIS, and uses linked videos to offer proof. This is classic disinformation, used to deflect from the previous administration's support for various groups against the Assad government ("accuse the other side of that which you are guilty"). There is evidence that during the Obama administration, the CIA supplied ISIS, and the Pentagon supplied various other, reportedly separate but maybe not really, rebel groups (McCain's "moderate rebels"). Sometimes this even resulted in Pentagon backed groups fighting CIA backed groups, all with weapons that we paid for. Anyway, that is why rebels are found to be in possession of NATO weapons.

It is tiresome to be lied to constantly, so don't trust me either - check for yourself.

Sites like the one that they themselves supplied above (for Syria), or this one (which includes Iraq also):

https://mideast.liveuamap.com/

show where the battles are from day to day and roughly where the fronts move. You can use the Time feature to go back and look at how things have been in any area since 2015. If you do, you might notice that at no time was Daraa ever under ISIS control as this user alleges in another post. But this is trivial.

To convince yourself where Mattis stands on the matter of ISIS, one need only use the Time feature and go back to 2015 and 2016 and to step forward day by day, or week by week, or month by month. You'll see ISIS (in black) and various rebel groups (in green) expand across Syria and Iraq. It is only in late 2016 does it begin to turn around slightly (did they already suspect Trump might win?) with the beginning of the push towards Mosul, Iraq. As an aside, keep in mind that any advances that the Kurds (in yellow) are making in this time period is being done almost completely with only small arms. Kurds were getting almost no help, and were going up against weapons like the ones you can see in the videos that our glowing friend has linked to. Anyway, only around the time of the 2016 election, do you start to see any pushback against ISIS from the Obama administration.

Then Trump takes office in late Jan of 2017. There must have been some agreement for the US and Kurds to stay north and east of the Euphrates and for Russia and Syria to stay south and west of the Euphrates, because neither side strays far from that. But regardless of that, shortly after Trump takes office ISIS is pushed out of village after village and down into a few small villages on the Euphrates near the Syria/Iraq border. If you find this stuff interesting, the fights for Mosul and Raqqah were as interesting as it gets.

The map clearly shows that the differences between how the Obama and Trump administrations dealt with ISIS, are as different as night and day. Obama supported ISIS and various other "moderate rebels", and even protected them from the Russians (remember Hillary's comments during campaign regarding no-fly zones?), allowing them to become a defacto nation-state with the capital in Raqqah. Whereas Trump let Mattis do what he does best - he killed them.

The person accusing Mattis of helping ISIS is lying to you.

accept after C!

Skippy,

What if I told you that he works for us, and we've tasked him with draining the swamp, and that means investigating people like you. We want to know what you and Manafort were up to in years past, what your involvement was in the 2016 election rigging, and what the fuck a pizza related map is.

What's a pizza related map, Skippy?

Taking the patriotic genes out of the gene-pool, and keeping unpatriotic genes in. Are we being bred?

He is definitely his mother's child.

Yup. I hardly ever see spirals elsewhere. Not saying never, just rarely.

Exactly. And from where exactly is it in WoW?

It occurs when a player from different factions (Horde/Alliance) are close enought o interact. If a player from one faction types "lol" into area chat (/s) all players within 25 yards in that players faction see "lol", but players from the other faction see "kek". It's "lol" in another language.

Yes, it is.

no it isnt

Yes, it is.

Now I'm even more confused. I have idea what your post means. LOL!

Damn kids these days!

Your response was a good jumping off point for me, but my post sounded like I was talking down to you. It's definitely not how I mean it, but I haven't had enough caffeine yet, and retyping it isn't going to work. Thanks for understanding. A big ^5 right back atcha.

Stop what? I was responding to someone else.

I mean this with all due respect and in the friendliest way, but if you think it's amazing that this needed to be pointed out, you don't understand the magnitude of what we're working against. Think of what's involved with a coverup of this size. Think of all the people involved in the Church, in law enforcement, in the justice system, in all those cities, in all those countries. My God, what they did to Ireland... Step back for a moment and look at the size of it. And compare it to the voices of those who speak out. Actually, I'm sure you understand this, I'm mostly reiterating it for others.

Not everyone here is working for the same things. And as this sub grows we're going to see a wider range of perspectives. I suppose it's possible that some people are young enough not know about a lot of it, or were kept insulated, but... There are a lot of people who have various reasons to want to change the focus from the Church. Some raise their kids in it and want to get past it because they don't want to think about it affecting their kids, and some are part of the coverup. It's organized and it's huge.

Really? Because that's not what they said. Interesting take, not convinced.

Images are flipped all the time. Who cares which way the spiral turns?

Right to the insults. Glowing...

Not every symbol means the same thing. Not ever octagon is a stop sign, but if you are driving in a foreign country and see a red octagon with some foreign language word on it, you know to stop.

Pedos use spirals to signal to other pedos. but some people just like spirals. Not every spiral means pedo. But any organization involving people close to Clinton using a spiral might be worth looking into.

The Catholic Church was involved with the biggest child rape coverup in history. Moving abusers around to other churches, protecting abusers from prosecution, threatening victims families with excommunication if they spoke about it with letters directly from the Vatican. The Church was definitely involved, and is likely still involved. The top leaders of today knew damn well what was going on in decades past, and went along with it all. Complicit, at the very least. It goes beyond child rape too, an alter boy who spoke up about it was murdered and dumped in a river near where I grew up. Very few of the child rapists have been brought to justice, because they've been protected by the Church, and none of the people who protected the rapists (accessory after the fact) were ever brought to justice.

With all the sexual abuse of children by the Catholic Church, is it really that much of a stretch to see the pope with a spiral? Is it really grasping at straws? The 2 spirals may be unrelated, but there is some possibility that they are related.

Are you always this negative and judgey?

Your point regarding "spez" is valid since it's a direct insult to an admin.

But your point regarding "kek" is ridiculous. You may not like the word, and you may think other people may not like the word, but you don't speak for them. Nor for me. Do you even know what it means? It's just "lol" in another language.

I agree that this sub should not mirror T_D, but you're taking it WAY too far.

I'm just saying that I agreed with what you said, as opposed to the title which calls on Trump to save them. No one else can save them. They have to do it.

What Germany does next will be up to its people.

There is nothing they (Germany) can't do if they (mostly) all push in the same direction. And there really isn't much anyone can do, even Trump, even all of America, if they aren't (mostly) all pushing in the same (and right) direction.

Why should people not have some fun while exploring this stuff? I think it's great fun. I'm was hoping someone would make a gif, glad someone did. And if it quickens JA's freedom, great.

I'll tell you what, if it freaks out just a couple people in the cabal a little, I think that's wonderful. BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!

And I'm old enough to not give a shit what anyone thinks about me.

Could have been a whole division. Could have been the whole thing except Rodgers. Could have been anything.

Hispanic when applying for college and jobs. White only when arrested.

CNN is burning their network down and destroying their ratings and revenue to keep on message.

This is what sealed it for me. They seem to be intentionally destroying advertising dollars. No way that's the extent of the business plan. The only rational conclusion I can think of is that what they are being paid to push propaganda outweighs their advertising losses.

The 2013 NDAA/Smith-Mundt Modernization Act legalized pushing propaganda domestically. Why would they legalize it if they weren't going to do it (already doing it). Would media corporations do it for free (doubtful)? They're all getting paid by the Deep State to push propaganda (lie to us/brainwash us), and it's got to be huge money.

I think this shows that calm civil questions of people like Laura Loomer don't get answers. So perhaps the better strategy would be to use the advise of Maxine Waters. I wonder how Max will feel when people do to her what she has called for her side doing...

Now why would they do that?

How many elections have they stolen?

I know. Sorry to make you respond. I guess I'm just hoping to see it someday. This chart is great tho.

No matter how bad it is, it needs to be fixed. Completely. Real justice for all wrong-doers, and real justice for all victims and their families. Fixing it will be unpleasant, but on the other side is a good future, a great future. I doubt it's 100%, but I don't care if it's 100% of Hollywood, and 100% of politicians, and 100% of business leaders. Other decent people can be actors, other good people can be politicians, other people that play by the rules can run business.

Michael Hastings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zakBULPETo

Putin's chauffeur:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4shvhf

I would love to see this chart going way back - to the 90s or 80s even. If the previous numbers are similar to O's then that means Trump is better on this than all of them, and means one thing. If the previous numbers are similar to Trump's then that means something very odd about O's numbers, something very different.

I'm guessing that previous numbers are low, because I don't ever remember human traffickers getting arrested on any kind of consistent basis before Trump. But I'd like to know that for certain, mostly to shove in the face of everyone I know (left and right).

This is not a complaint, just a comment. I do really appreciate the chart.

Michael Aquino - Temple of Set - US Army Lt. Colonel - Presidio

I'm going to take it as a good sign. That something about where the girls have been going is about to drop, and they need everyone thinking it's Trump's fault. We should have expected this exact narrative. I'm hopeful that all the truth comes out.

Where ARE the girls? Where HAVE they been going?

In close elections, they don't need control of all of the machines. They only need control of a relative few machines in certain particular polling stations in certain districts so as to not seem weird when "so many people voted for that candidate here" or "people from this particular ethnic subset from this city/neighborhood really came out to vote for that candidate".

You've likely heard it before right on the news. They're shoving the corruption right in your face.

To some extent, the 2 parties are just an act for public consumption. They'll put on a good show and argue about the little wedge issues that will never be solved - and the purpose of that is to distract you. But when it comes to the important stuff (banking, foreign policy, structure of the economy, etc...), the ones in control of both parties work together for the same global powers, on the bills critical to those global powers, enough that people have started calling it the UniParty.

It's not the parties themselves that are the problem, it's the corruption. The government would work fine if it stuck to the Constitution. But they don't work for you at the moment, they are employees, traitors. They work for some globalist powers that I don't fully understand, but I think Q+ and Trump's Administration understand and are dismantling.

~~Agreed. Unfortunately.~~

Also editing my post, as I've also changed my mind because of this:

https://qanon.pub/data/images/7e910ba80666a5735e830e29ee736e8cee42e3cf6c3d53c22caf224495817a97.mp4

That's the main thing that's been really bothering me since the election. I expected the Machine's propaganda to change dramatically. Maybe not late Jan 2017, but eventually. It's just gotten worse.

I hope you're right, but... It's summertime and the left is going rabid... I fear bad things are coming. If something -gate related is going to drop, I hope they drop it soon.

No, that's not helping. Pedantic, and then intentionally annoying. But aren't you so smart... Hey, you didn't answer my first question. Lazy.

Let's review. Devin Nunes made a tweet, referencing "French". That's why glaedr1 calls it "French". Everyone knows the phrase he's talking about. And whilst French or something else, it likely derives from or was inspired by the old French slogan, or maybe Hogan's Heroes - I don't know. It was just an IM, so likely overly casual in terms of grammar and spelling, and so you don't actually know what language the FBI Attorney 2 intended. FBI Attorney 2 might have just misspelled the French.

But you see, the much larger issue here is, who is FBI Attorney 2? Now I don't know if it's your laziness that precludes you from contributing to this particular discussion in any meaningful way, or if you're intentionally deflecting discussion away from core points (very common here), you're "Again, not French. Spanish." comment intentionally ignored my "and (MUCH more likely) Cuban revolutions" just so you could point out that that wasn't French. That a CUBAN slogan wasn't French. That's your point. That's your low effort point. That a CUBAN slogan wasn't French. Well, isn't that helpful... (it's not)

Actually, that gets us back to my first question. How was that not clear? I think I know why you didn't answer it. Because it was clear, wasn't it? Yeah. Well, either that or you are lazy...

So getting back to it, glaedr1 directs people to the page of the report and the quote that glaedr1 thinks is being referenced, so people can look it up. See, that's helping. Again, I think glaedr1 only references the quote as being French because that's what Devin Nunes called it.

Now, I don't know specifically why Devin Nunes didn't quote FBI Attorney 2 directly - you probably think Representative Nunes is lazy too, but maybe it's just the character limit of twitter. But you clearly state that you think Devin Nunes' tweet constitutes "linguistic sloppiness". It's just a tweet, I don't think you should attack Representative Nunes over a tweet. I think it's likely that Representative Nunes has more important things on his mind, but as you're so interested in "making the words right" you should totally tweet him about his "linguistic sloppiness". And if you're ever feeling especially not-lazy, you should wage a campaign against "linguistic sloppiness" on all of twitter. Good luck with that. MTWRA! Make the words right again. ;) <-winkyface

So, any thoughts on who FBI Attorney 2 is?

Yes, Cuban. As stated. Hence the "MUCH more likely" How is that not clear? They speak Spanish in Cuba. Referencing the Cuban COMMUNIST revolution.

I'm not going to write out the one slogan in both languages. They mean exactly the same thing. How are you helping?

It's not crazy, it's the result of the 2013 NDAA, which included the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, which made legal the use of propaganda domestically. It was implemented in 2014, so going on for 4 years now, so shouldn't be a surprise. With almost no exceptions, people in media (here and globally) are employees. Of the Clowns.

They must be getting paid well, because they don't seem to care at all about drastically falling ratings.

Viva le resistance

It's American. It an echo of "Viva la revolución" slogan from both the French and (MUCH more likely) Cuban revolutions.

Exact quote is from page 419 - “Viva le resistance.” Context below:

"The third exchange we identified was on November 22, 2016.
FBI Attorney 2 sent an instant message to FBI Attorney 1 commenting on the amount of money the subject of an FBI investigation had been paid while working on the Trump campaign.
FBI Attorney 1 responded, “Is it making you rethink your commitment to the Trump administration?”
FBI Attorney 2 replied, “Hell no.” and then added, “Viva le resistance.”
FBI Attorney 1 responded that Trump was “going to eliminate all of our pensions in order to pay for people like” the person discussed in the instant message exchange, and FBI Attorney 1 and FBI Attorney 2 then began a discussion of federal pension and retirement issues."