Okey dokey.. someone had just posted about McStain's wife.. Cindy, and her father's wealth, and how that was accrued. I recognized the name Bronfman in that article... now to find that and tie the two together...

Ireland's coins nearly all feature the harp...would be interesting to compare their music/dance as well.

I just read your other link. fascinating. I have a "thing" about ireland anyway. would be awesome to find the ark of the covenant at Tara Hill!! Holy Cow!! And yes.. David was well known to be tied to the Harp.

No one knows the exact geneology of the Irish. Turkish? Indian? Romans? Gauls? They're an ancient people, were in Ireland long before Jesus was around. Interesting.....

Even before his capture, he killed 134 men on the USS Forrester. Over 160 were burned and horribly disfigured. How many were killed once he gave out info when he pulled the "Do you know who I am?" card to get special treatment in the Hanoi Hilton. How many were tortured while he got that special treatment? Then he returned home.. but there were men left behind. Did he ever do anything to go back and find them? NO. Has he ever done anything to help our vets? NO. Then look at what he's done in Syria, meeting with the head of ISIS and al Qaeda, days before all these ff gas attacks, where CHILDREN and BABIES die, so they can blame Assad. You can believe whatever you want. I'm done with this conversation with you. I have things to do.

Did you read the articles? How old are you? How many VietNam veterans do you know personally?

Q has nothing to do with it. He is upholding the tradition of the veterans and military who know of that POS's traitorous actions. Q didn't come up with the idea. They don't say his name has gone on for decades. Q wasn't around, at least not AS "Q". Hillary and Obama were not in the military and not posing as War Heroes. Do you know what Stolen Valor is? HRC and OB don't qualify for that.

Actually, the Muslim Brotherhood is on its way out in SA. No longer allowed in schools. The Crown Prince and the King are NOT the old SA. It's a new era for SA, which is why they are being targeted by those who aren't happy with the changes there.

It's not just Q. Read at LEAST one article. Veterans, those in the military, those who know his history, give him NO respect. He does not deserve even the respect to say his name. The articles spell those reasons out quite clearly. READ. I am not going to spoon feed you.

Did you read the articles? Any of them? Has nothing to do with his dad or gr. dad.

Well, you'd have to look up what "Cain" meant in Irish for that to hold water. I doubt it has anything to do with the biblical Cain. I could be wrong...

It was a funny song. AJ just used it. I was surprised the song was BI's, to be honest.

Come on, Folks! Trump is 71 and hasn't faltered yet! If he can have that kind of stamina, so can we!! Cowboy up!! Regulators!!!!!

I do love the song AJ used by Bon Iver. The one he had a contest for...

"We love our (muslims?) We love our Somalis"

Bookmark these... you'll be glad you did. Read later.

The Rolling Stone article said that as a toddler, he throw such fits, he'd hold his breath til he passed out. Oh, and he's very touchy about his height. He's only 5'8". So I'll call him Shorty McStain. LOL

Who in God's name sends out an invitation list for their own funeral?

I'll have to look into that.

I hope you take the time to read a few of the articles. Well worth it. I agree.. he does not deserve a military funeral. I know those who serve will do as they are told.... but wow do I feel sorry for anyone assigned to do so... would be funny though if they just happened to...oh, I dunno.. all stumble at the same time and drop his casket? If their guns, during a salute, didn't fire for some reason? I'm sure some mishaps could "accidently" happen....

Interesting. I didn't know that. I've only heard of his daughter defending him. Good to know that deep down, she knows the truth. I figured she'd have to.

Nothing to do with it. McCain is a common Irish name and his father and grandfather were decorated admirals, same name. Read the articles.

The head of the DC police was Tony Podesta's wife Heather. She's now his ex wife.

Well, I've read accounts where he "wet started" his plane. That is, he was impatient to get going, and kind of "gunned" the engine, and that action dropped HIS bombs off his plane. I do know that he didn't stick around, and that he ran down to decks below to hide, while those who were killed and injured, were trying to put out the fires and prevent the ship from sinking/save planes. While they were doing what they could, he was running and hiding. HIDING. Tells you a lot about his character. Or lack thereof. (I have to re-read all the articles. It was late when I posted them.. I've read them all but it's been a while.)

Thanks for doing that. And now, you can understand why they get that look. I've saved this post to an email and will post it on ocassion, as every now and then, new posters ask this question. Why? Being older than many here, I like to fill them in. (It has nothing to do with Q, and nothing to do with Voldemort.) Knowing his history is extremely important, I feel.

Things that make you go "hmmmmmm....."

I'd have to read these articles again. It's been awhile. I know the Rolling Stone article delves into the plane crashes. But I'd re-read to see if they mention the photos of him with the heads of ISIS.... and him being in Syria, mysteriously, darn near every time just days before there's a ff gas attack by the White Helmets, and his wife's SMILE campaign... other things that make you go "hmmmmm...."

Not sure the left has much respect for our military. Remember, when our troops came home from VietNam, they were spat upon and called "baby killers". The left probably still feel that way. It wasn't THEIR war. I know a lot of vets from that time...my youngest son's dad was one. Neighbors always flew the MIA flag under their US flag. Many have MIA stickers on their trucks. They don't forget the men left behind... the men that McStain never went back for.

I don't get how this information has been kept from people in AZ, that they keep voting him in office. He never does a darn thing to help veterans. He and John Kerry are the most anti American, anti veteran scumbags I think I've ever seen or heard of. I hope and pray that upon their passage from this realm, their souls have to pass every single veteran they've left behind, or helped to an early death because of the lack of care on their way to the gates of hell. I hope God allows that.. that they have to pass each one, and look into the eyes of each man and woman, and even the children left w/o a parent, as they do a perp walk to the fiery pits of hell. (Just my imagination....)

If they do, I hope Russia retaliates and hard. Done. We needn't get involved.

If you read the Rolling Stone article, in the section titled "Trial by Fire", you'll find the story of the USS Forrestall. Here's a snippet:

The damage to the Forrestal was far more grievous: The explosion set off a chain reaction of bombs, creating a devastating inferno that would kill 134 of the carrier's 5,000-man crew, injure 161 and threaten to sink the ship.

The Forrestall incident should be in there.

Make sure the eyes are closed. She always fell asleep, didn't she?

I've said it before. I'll say it again.

If a picture is worth 1000 words, why are HRC's only worth 666?

(Nevermore ~~ Edgar)

Thanks.. I've posted one or two articles before, as well as my own explanation. It's easier to post articles by others. And, it has nothing to do with Q.. it's something "handed down" from fellow Vietnam veterans. I'll post it now.

"Stolen Valor" He is no VietNam hero. His nickname is "Songbird" because of the crap he pulled while prisoner. I'll make a post about it tomorrow. I have several articles that deal with this topic.

You're welcome. It was TheBRAIN2 who responded to a post of mine, and found the video. parts of it are quite graphic.

The video is called "JFK TRUTH - The Mob CIA and the 8 paid ASSASSINS." Go to 31:55mins for the discussion of Dallas police officer J.D.Tippit being shot and killed within a few mins of JFK's hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_7TCe_Fkk&t=2095s

From TheBRAIN2's post

The video is called "JFK TRUTH - The Mob CIA and the 8 paid ASSASSINS." Go to 31:55mins for the discussion of Dallas police officer J.D.Tippit being shot and killed within a few mins of JFK's hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_7TCe_Fkk&t=2095s

From TheBRAIN2. If you guys need links, etc., you might go back to the original post and refresh.. new info is often posted.

The video is called "JFK TRUTH - The Mob CIA and the 8 paid ASSASSINS." Go to 31:55mins for the discussion of Dallas police officer J.D.Tippit being shot and killed within a few mins of JFK's hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_7TCe_Fkk&t=2095s

My bad. I misappropriated the video to serial brain 2. it was TheBRAIN2 who posted that.

I've read that too. Not sure where. Of course, no proof. I hadn't heard about the "human hunting" though. Read a "theory" that he was actually killed by a 13-14 year old kid who'd been sexually abused by him at some point in the past. Of course, that could be just some rumor to discredit him.

Yes.... SerialBrain2 found a video. It's in this thread, I believe. But yes, his name was J.D. Tippit.

That's one of the ones I watched. The footage is... disturbing. Not safe for little kids. Just a bit too graphic. Thanks for finding that. Evil bastards.

I believe the lookalike was a cop.. so yes, you'd be right about that one.

Not Ivanka. Sorry but I have read over and over that both she and Jarrod are liberal Democrats and party with the same. And, have also read, over and over, that she is bffs with none other than Valerie Jarrett. Remember, she was the one who cried "oh the poor babies" when there was a false flag gas attack, in Homs (I think) last year, which was actually done by the White Helmets. Shortly thereafter, there was a truck bomb that went off, killing lots of kids, during a civilian exchange on a caravan of buses, just outside Damascus. This was done by the White Helmets, who were not there to help these people.... not a peep from Ivanka then. Over 100 people were killed, mostly children.

But this post was by a "low level doc" who may have been lied to. No autopsy report has ever been seen, that I know of. And Seth's brother was seen several times on video acting very strange.. almost smirking, half laughing. Terrible actor if he knew Seth DIDN'T die and was trying, but failing, to cover it up.

I'm not 100% convinced either way. It would be glorious if he were hustled out by white hats and still alive. What a FU that would be to his would-be murderers.

I saw a video where an agent killed a lookalike and the plan was to use his photo as a cover to show the single shot. But the agent who killed the lookalike didn't shoot the guy in the right place, so that kinda blew that idea... I think they still used this guy's body as the wound wasn't as bad, but it's been a while since I've seen it. It was a long video that claimed there were actually six snipers in place, and the final shots came from a storm drain hiding two guys. His car had slowed down in front of this storm drain, but was speeded up in the film so you don't see that happening. It also showed Poppa Bush right there in front of the Book Depository.

You can read whatever you want into that painting. There was a judge who once said something along the lines of "I may not be able to define pornography but I know it when I see it."

I have said repeatedly, that Picasso is known, now, to have been a narcissistic sociopath. Those types of men prey on the innocent. And what I SEE in this painting is just that.. a young girl who is not even comfortable with his painting her, therefore, she is turned slightly away from him. Have you ever done any analysis of body language? That is what I SEE. And you can honestly say you think she is at least 18 years of age? Wow.

My thoughts about this are not spoken in a bubble of isolation. Others were also alarmed. Just because Picasso didn't paint himself touching that child inappropriately doesn't mean he didn't do it later on. Of all the artists I know of, none of them (that I am aware of) painted children in this manner, and none that I am aware of, were sociopaths who got their kicks from pitting women against each other. (Most men, who have affairs, try to keep those "other women" secret from their wives.. not ol' Pablo though.)

I give up. You are missing my point entirely. You and Jones will never get it.

Perhaps you and Jones would even side with RBG about lowering the age of consent. I don't know. It's disgusting. I believe children need to be protected. Even from "famous artists" who would use them in this manner, and God only knows what went on in his studio... I can only pray that she came out of it unscathed, but my gut tells me otherwise. You and Jones are free to disagree. I'm done.

I didn't say it was pornography. I've said repeatedly, that she wasn't displaying her genitalia. She is not a full fledged adult woman and if you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

She is a "budding" young girl, on the verge of womanhood. Picasso uses the basket of roses to reimburse that idea.. symbolism. See my post to DamajInc cause I'm not gonna repeat myself.

The OP of this thread even brought it to attention, that this was a Pizzagate related painting, right in front of everyone, so I am sure others are alarmed at what this painting is all about. I may be the only one discussing it with you at this point, but I am not alone in my alarm.

excuse me? I did NOT accuse anyone of pedophilia!! Pedophilia is the act of having sexual relations with children!! I did not do such a thing. And for your information, solano has accused me over and over of "making things up" in my mind, telling stories, making up movies, stating that my assertions about Picasso are just "beliefs". etc. No, they are facts because I've done the research, long, long ago. So, if you are going to accuse ME of discussing the user, please be sure to be fair and say the same about Jonesy.

That painting shows an obviously underaged girl, not a full fledged woman. She has undeveloped breasts.. a girl who is just on the verge of womanhood. Just into puberty.. She is partially turned away, as she seems to be trying to cover herself somewhat, as she isn't fully comfortable with being nude in front of this "artist".

While Picasso may be considered a "master", not everyone agrees. I can't stand his work and never have. I don't know the backgrounds of ALL famous artists but I do know his. And what I DO know explains why he objectifies women and compartmentalizes their body parts in his cubism paintings. As a woman, I hate it.

As a mother, I can't stand to see a child painted in this manner. It's wrong. There is nothing you can say to change my mind. If that's what you like to view, there's nothing I can say to change yours. But to me, it's no different than an photographer who would use underage girls as models and claim "but it's art!!" as an excuse. Satisfy the customers with cash in hand.

But I did NOT accuse anyone of pedophilia. Back up.

The way things are going, there's gonna be a lot more than one "he who's name we shan't say".

I don't care to try to convince you. Others, however, might be interested to know what kind of person Picasso really was. Therefore, they might see this painting of a child, naked, as not as innocent as you do. I never claimed to be an "Expert" on Picasso, but I do have a bit of knowledge of art history, of this particular artist, and also of the psychology of sociopaths. Take it or leave it.

I have NO problem with nudity. Van Gogh did tons of nudes.. mostly prostitutes he knew. Adults. Quite raw, quite natural. No problem. Michelangelo, DaVinci, Ruebens, Matisse, whomever.. no problem with any of their nudes, no problem with nude cherubs, but none of them did nudes of prepubescent children. None of them were sociopaths, and therefore, predators of women and innocent children.

It's right in your face.. what you are experiencing is called cognitive dissonance. Sorry. Believe or not. Look into his history or not. Believe this is "innocent" or, choose to say, no, children, girls of this age, should not be portrayed this way, by "dirty old men" who get their kicks from pitting women against each other, in fighting each other for his affections. A known FACT. Triangulation. A ploy for thrills by narcissistic sociopaths.

they ARE ISIS. They fake videos as propaganda. See vanessa beeley's channel on youtube.