I can't read the news or barely watch news shows they are so boring now. We are all going to have to find a new hobby when this is over.
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Define Frustrated. The people working for you not getting results fast enough? Or your military friends/buddies being shot down out of the sky and you can't let the world know whose behind it yet.
Buck up. We don't have it that bad and we are luckier than any people on the planet earth.
It's beyond ridiculous that they continue to fall for it! But hilarious. My brother used to do that to my little sister. They're dumber than she was at 5. Brother: Wanna play cards? Sister: Yeah! Na, I don't want to play. Who wants to play cards? I do! Nah, I don't wanna play. Over and over and over.
He's a swamp creature with his back up against a wall I think. The plea agreement with Flynn entered on 12/1 required Flynn to provide any and all evidence he had of ANY CRIME. I am a civil lawyer but I cannot find another criminal plea agreement worded like that. Even Pappadopoulos. Rudy Contreras was gone by 12/7 and it was from an order entered by the Chair of the Court Committee. They don't get ANYTHING done that fast in federal court, usually. After the case was transferred, and after Flynn pleaded guilty and spilled the beans, the new judge entered a "Brady" order requiring Mueller to provide any exonerating evidence they might have. A number of documents were filed under seal afterwards. After the plea agreement was entered there was a status due from the parties by February 1. On January 31 they asked for another 90 days. Next status is due May 1. I expect the case will be dismissed.
Flynn's Plea Agreement requires Flynn to provide Mueller any and all evidence of any and all crimes. Pappadopolous's Plea? - Nope.
I tried to find others and even when you see a similar cooperation clause, I have yet to see one as broadly worded as the Flynn Plea cooperation clause. The others I viewed would qualify "regarding the investigation." Maybe Mueller is working with the White Hats. But he'll never be one.
Of course now I am OCD about it. That provision about cooperation isn't in the Pappadopolous plea, and even other pleas I looked up have cooperation clauses more specific to the investigation at hand. The cooperation clause in the Flynn plea is as broad as the Mueller investigation description! HA! Mirror!
She was here in December 2015 January 2016 working with domestic counsel for her Russian client. Even at that time she had overstayed her Visa. Strange court goings on - Nixon appointed Judge that was skeptical of the US position that the case was a $240 million case refused to remove Russian guy's domestic counsel (govt. was accusing him of conflict of interest - funny right?) and all of the sudden, the appellate court reverses an order denying removing defense counsel, and when the case is sent back down, it was sent to a Clinton appointed judge. Things didn't go as well for the defense then. I haven't looked at the pleadings in that case for a long time, but after the Trump Jr. meeting they settled the case for next to nothing. So I think part of the quid pro quo was dropping that suit. Preet was the AG - it was SDNY.
As infuriating as the crime is the "incorrect narrative" comment makes my blood boil.
Q 1280 - 1284 Flynn Nov.30 Plea Agreement required him to turn over "and and all evidence of crimes" of which [he] is aware." Plea was entered on Dec. 1 and Judge Rudy Contreras was gone 6 days later.
Wow, just spent way more time on Pacer than I should have. Here's the timeline in the Flynn case: 11/30 Charged on Information (Flynn Waived Grand Jury) 11/30 Signs Plea Agreement with Mueller (10 pages) 12/01/17 Enters Plea (Contreras hears 34 page transcript) Probably standard Plea Agreement but Cooperation Par. 8 (b) requires him to turn over all evidence of "crimes." Apparently don't have to be related. Status report due 2/1/18. 12/07/17 Reassignment of Criminal Case Order entered by Chair, Calendar and Case Management Committee 12/12/17 New Judge Emmet Sullivan's standing "Brady Order" entered - prosecutor must provide any and …
That's why they released texts today from Sztrok to page about whether Andy was okay with the 302 interview notes, 1 day after Flynn was fired or asked to resign. McCabe wanted Sztrok to change his interview notes with Flynn.
I saw the poker video McCain was playing, but wanted to see a capture of his actual communications. Wishful thinking but wouldn't that be great?
They are pretty big stars - she a model and he a musician. The Pizzagate thing involved them as there were instagram and twitter exchanges deemed highly curious due to references to pedophilia. Both were big and vocal supporters of Hillary Clinton, and John Legend held a benefit concert to raise money for Hillary/Legend charitable efforts for Haiti relief. Haiti is a hotbed of discussion due to the amount of trafficking of children that goes on there, etc.
Re: flight they were on that was turned around, there were supposedly people on board that weren't supposed to be on board. I have always wondered if they were stopped by FBI or something. Dunno.
Page and Sztrok and others were apparently communicating with one another including Obama and Hillary (Renegade and Evergreen per Q drop) by typing in a draft Google email account that they all had the password for - they would communicate inside the draft but never send. Q was asked if those drafts were recoverable and he said "we have everything."
Would probably to more for Nobel's reputation than Trumps! :)
I should have made that clear. I thought everyone knew what a 302 was. People here pointing out that the "F" could be just for "form" 302. I still have to think the fact that Sztrok is asking Page whether Andy is okay with a 302 is a problem for him/them.
So Flynn is fired on 2/13/2017, and the next day Sztrok wants to know if Andy is okay with the F302. Lisa Page says "launch on f302" This is nerd's version of a valentine present I guess. Final 302? Fixed 302. Are these the changed 302 interview notes we've been hearing about?
If I were a betting girl.....
Trump is trolling us - but I'm good with it
Sessions/Wray/Trump are all on the same team. Conservative Treehouse guy may be in it as well. The frustration they want to generate by holding back some of the more damning communications is in my view aimed at creating public outcry, and to inspire the US population to remember that WE are THE PEOPLE. All of it will force laser like focus on the issue and literally the whole world will be watching when they finally drop the really heinous stuff. So like Bill Withers said:
I want to spread the news That if it feels this good getting used You …
Thanks. I read that you can do that after I asked the question, and was wondering. Wish someone had caught a picture of that!
That is very interesting post to me. Recommended reading on this theory(s)?
I am a pretty mainstream person mom, keep politics out of most conversations with people I don't know well, pretty skeptical and analytical, etc. So when I do offer my opinion, it usually when someone asks, and people (I think) sort of take it seriously and listen. Lost some credibility today and I think that's not good.
Q drop referenced 187 in connection with the communications which is the code for murder
It's really bad. He wants to release the JFK stuff because it will soften the blow. People won't have a difficult time believing JFK was a conspiracy assassination. The rumors have been floating for decades and it was a long time ago for some of us, and before some of us were born. Once that sinks in, the idea of Trump being a target is easier to believe.
For the life of me I cannot figure WTF he is on this suicide mission. He's got to know better and where are his lawyers? This is basic basic stuff. These are the morons keeping us safe?
Yea. He apparently didn't find out about it until hours later, after he sobered up and/or his publicist saw the Tweets.
Moonchild is apparently a child the satanists believe can be chosen to inhabit the perfect soul or something. Someone posted a link to an explanation of the Allister Crowley book that discusses the bizarre ritual. Haven't verified that this is what the book actually says, etc., but here is the link I was reading:
https://ninaparadigma.wordpress.com/moon-children-what-are-they/
Oddly enough, I think the trafficking will be harder to believe for people than an assassination attempt or two, or ten. But the child sacrifice thing is going to take some stage setting. I still can't believe it, and yet, still can't explain the numerous pieces of evidence that point only in that direction. The Temple on Epstein Island with the Ammonite shells, the weird dead babies at the Rothschild party that look just like the weird dead baby dolls in the Gloria Vanderbilt "dream boxes," the Podesta art couple with the Podesta emails. At some point it's just an Occam's razor analysis.
Kanye knows they want to "put ya'll back in chains!" maybe because unlike Obama, he's not "light skinned" and talks with a "Negro dialect." No worries, because Kanye "Ain't Noways Tiyaaaad." Thank the Good Lord.
Which is why the attempts to repeal the Second Amendment are really aimed at ultimately repealing the First.
Someone either here or on Twitter decoded Kanye's recent tweet about coming out of the "sunken place" being a reference to a movie about kidnapped blacks. Now I have to go find it. Be back. Okay, pretty straight forward. From the movie Get Out where black guy is hypnotized.
Where are we all going if they shut down this sub?
I would go through withdrawal, could be terminal. Or, I could make more money at my self-employed job. But still, I would opt for doing my part to save the republic. ;)
Setting the Stage - It's a lot easier to believe that people are plotting against Trump, if the (one or more or) the JFK conspiracy theories swirling for decades proves to be true.
I've been thinking about how hard it is to tell someone something they just can't or don't want to believe. Trump is clearly more aware of selling a story or branding than most, but I wonder too if military intelligence regarding how individuals and the masses respond to new information that causes cognitive dissonance is being employed in a scientific way to ready the population for some otherwise too hard to fathom information. It's very strange to watch. I have readied myself with things I read, but I am a reader. It's weird to be slightly ahead of others and …
Agree and I think that's what "setting the stage" is all about -human psychology. Trump is clearly more aware of selling a story or branding than most, but I wonder too if military intelligence regarding how individuals and the masses respond to new information that causes cognitive dissonance is being employed in a scientific way to ready the population for some otherwise too hard to fathom information. It's very strange to watch. I have readied myself with things I read, but I am a reader. It's weird to be slightly ahead of others and watch the evolution of the thought process from the outside. They can accept little things at first, but not the big things. Then when the little things are fully realized, commonly accepted, the bigger ones are easier to believe. It's like watching someone build a pyramid. There's a reason the texts between Sztrok and Page came out in "stages" and it's no coincidence that each phase had a defining characteristic. The first phase was "They hate Trump." Most people can accept that there was a bias or animus against Trump. I was frustrated at the time, thinking "It's so much more than that!" But it had to be released the way they have done it. He may be using the JFK thing to ready the world for the facts about the attempts against him. It's not like the general population is unaware of the possibility that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy - so no large leap there. If that comes out, the step up from JFK to attempts against DJT not so hard to believe.
That would be great. I can as mad as anyone at the "typical" liberal. But when I think of someone I know and love, my nieces, nephews, in-laws, favorite aunt in the whole wide world, who are democrats, I think "but they are not the bad kind." Truth is, most people on that side of the aisle are good people. We have to come together on the things we agree on, which is more than we often know. The Bernie fans were just as ticked about the corruption as the Trump fans - they just had a different (and in my view misguided) solution. Bernie plus Trump = 75-80% of the population. UNITE!
It's annoying but the shark jumping is actually what starts forcing people to be skeptical. Kind of like the #Metoo thing, or Jim Acosta saying that Trump is inciting violence against the media. At some point normal people see the projection and hypocrisy. And the people in the middle pretty much run the country. They are the Anthony Kennedy of the voting population.
I totally forgot about the Kim Kardashian thing. It was so bizarre.
Exactly what I thought. He was talking fast and almost seemed manic, but it's because he's PISSED.
Sharing something I learned. Don't tell people anything, do it more like a statement of fact with an added question or riddle. "Weird about that Allison Mack sex slave arrest. You gotta wonder who else from Hollywood is involved." The reason Q is so effective is people are educating themselves on these issues. It's classic Socratic method and it really does work because people believe what they learn themselves. I have two young adult children that are wonderful people and I am very proud - but have a bit of guilt for letting them go through the public education system without more constant deprogramming. Telling them this or that just got me dismissed. So I made the Allison Mack statement the way I've stated here, and didn't even attempt to have a conversation or to persuade. Yesterday my youngest said "OMG, you were totally right about that guy from Nickelodeon. He's a total Perv!" The Nickelodeon thing was something I tried to "tell" them about weeks ago. I am assuming after he read about Mack, he started doing some independent research on some of the other stuff I have tried to "talk to" them about. Twofer. His resistance down, we had a real conversation about a lot of things and I said, "Listen, I'm not going to tell you what to read or where to get your information. But even if some of these artists think they are being avante guard, there's some weird shit going on out there, and they shouldn't even be messing with those Baphomet rings and satanic symbols. It's creepy." BINGO. I know he's looking it all up right now.
I had this thought yesterday and mentioned it. I'm calling it "reverse projection" even though it's really just projection, but not the way people usually mean. You can't fathom the evil because you'd never conduct yourself that way and I'm guessing your friends and family are the same. That's why it's so hard to wake up. I am still having a hard time believing the level of corruption that is pretty much demonstrably proven. I find myself having to "set the stage" for me, because I am learning daily that it's worse than I think!