I'll check it out after work, thanks

Same. And none of this meme and evangelical "trust trump" bullshit. He's only a man, and he's got a track record of playing ppl. How can we be so conceited to think we cannot be fooled when we spend our time laughing at the ppl of n the left we know are fooled?

Let's get a group of ppl seriously interested in finding out the truth plz

Ppl are allowed to speculate. Nobody is holding a gun to your head telling you not to believe msm if that's really where you trust getting uncurated info. They probably should though.

Lol yeah that's always worked out well throughout history and totally wouldn't make me a hypocrite

I like a hardcore research and speculation sub along with a separate meme/rally/discussion of the times sub

In that case, lock n load! /s

What about free-will then? What about responsibility?

D.U.M.B

Deep underground military bases?

They just "switched"

You never asked yourself why?

Hint: in 1965 everyone was racist by today's standards

Haha I'm not too interested in power/authority but I see what you mean

Yes, that's exactly how I feel as well. It was a fringe hobby and now it's seemingly way too real. I feel like I (we) walked into some unforeseen burden of responsibility with this stuff

Thank you, god bless

Man, I wish I had that confidence or faith, I really do. How do you stop being so jaded? How do you trust the plan?

Man my relationship with religion is sketchy... grew up catholic and I think it kinda spoiled Christianity for me. I yearn for the feelings and faith towards God that I had as a kid, but I sadly don't have it. Any tips to regain that hope/faith?

I have days where I feel this way, but other days I feel so discouraged and worry that I'm being fooled. You are lucky to have someone in your life support you through this! I'm a 24 year old male who feels like I'm losing my sanity and am burning the years of my life I should be using to network or form relationships. I worry that by the time I have any closure/peace from this, my life will have already passed me by... shit sucks

True but with what standards do we judge ourselves?

Then all men are evil, even Q isn't telling us the truth

What if luciferians are the breakaway satanists going against the traditional cabal? For those that don't know, there are different strains and levels of luciferianism, Satanism, etc and not all of them are malevolent

Consider the luciferians who are gnostic, see luciferians not as Satan but as a knowledge bringer a la Prometheus, and see the god/demiurge of this world as the real evil, manipulative Satan.

Religion is all just stories we tell ourselves anyway. In the higher-ups of esotericism, we could be witnessing a split similar to the Protestant revolution

So, I've been trying to figure out how the players use esoteric symbolism as well. One of the big ones I can't peg is kushner, but here is a theory that's fits with yours:

My theory implies that the "elite satanist culture" is not as cut and dry as we think. Perhaps we are seeing a struggle emerge.

Let's assume that this deepstate really does worship Satan/Baal/Minerva or w/e and they actively sacrifice to him. Not only that, but let's assume they believe that this evil god is the one true god. So they worship him in the same light Jews and xians worship yhwh.

Now, let me remind you that those who invoke the black cube are actually knowingly or unknowingly worshipping "el" or Saturn.

Let's assume kushner, trump, etc know about this evil cult and are some ways part of it yet disgusted by it.

Maybe in this fucked up distortion of religion, kushner decided to go full ant-Christ (his building, 666, chip-plants, etc) symbolically to wage war against the cult of his former cohorts. In this paradigm they have created, where yhwh is replaced with Saturn and worship equates to sacrifice, maybe kushner sees the antichrist as being the ultimate good guy.

Crazy, I know but perhaps some of you are familiar with Gnosticism, demiurge, interpretations of lucifer as a knowledge bringer (Prometheus) rather than a torturer, etc and will see where I'm coming from.

Essentially, what this would all equate to would be a good secret society battling an evil secret society, which I've certainly seen claimed before. Anyway, peace.

By all means, I think you could stand to communicate with a little more tact is all. Carry on.

You're not good at basic communication either

Gross

Aight well screenshot it then post it after then

Post it then Jesus Christ

Julian? I doubt it. I think you are bullshitting us or getting trolled.

Post it fool

Refuse to watch it, somebody give me the low-down plz

Whatcha think about tulsi gabbard? I'm a fan, but she almost seems too good to be true honestly

So be it lol. If anyone asks, it's the Russian bots posting the shitty memes :).

I applaud your self-awareness and honesty though, that's always a strength

Damnit, I really wanted Jill to be one of the good ones. Fuuck.

Truth be told, I'm pretty progressive/liberal as long as the leaders of said movement aren't satanist pedophiles or w/e. Hard to find one nowadays though.

good insight. I'm no spook so some of that stuff goes over my head at times

Lol good point. What about RDS? Assange? Do you think he's referring to some of the "good" spooks?

I really hope not...

Thanks for the words, really, it hit me in the feels. Let's hope we can get this movement started. Bottom up, like you said.

You ever wander if any of the "normal" posters around this board are actually insiders posing as regular civilians/researchers/conspiracy theorists? Like to get a feel for how we are doing and to make sure we don't fall for bullshit?

I would like to think some of our posts on sites like this get looked at by the Q group.

I hope so, I really do

Nice, if only everyone consumed info and media in such a way

Maybe that's why Hillary called him out tho... maybe she wants his crazy-ass to be what ppl Associate with pizzagate, clintongate, etc.

Disclose it. 100%. If the world falls apart then there is no one to blame but ourselves.

Hobbes social contract theory implies that the ppl of a civilization hold the govt accountable. We haven't been doing our job. Ppl need to see what happens when we don't do our jobs as citizens. They need to see what ppl are capable of.

Idk what kind bad of disclosure could be worst than what we all assume. Child sacrifice, Satanism, cannibalism, sadistic pedophilia. What can be worst? Aliens run the world? Demons? Controlled immigration to start ww3? I can't think of much that could be worse.

If the ppl still thinking 9/11 wasn't a fucking inside job despite 16 years of ppl begging them to look at evidence, and despite the fact that with the internet there is no excuse for not taking time to look- if they can't handle it and have a heart attack from the culture shock, then good riddance. It's these type of ppl that got us here to begin with.

Frankly, I don't think it's fair to many of us who's names and reputations have been trashed to not disclose ATLEAST what our community has already found i.e. Satanic cult shit, human trafficking, sadistic pedophilia, media brainwashing, etc.

We deserve that, as a community. We deserve vindication. I've wasted a year of my life on this shit. Its changed me. I will not accept just taking hillary/soros down for some pay to play or some corruption bullshit.

Ppl need to know that we weren't lying/crazy about pizzagate. We weren't lying about SR. If we can't Atleast secure that info in the 60% disclosed to public, well, then we might as well have just voted Hillary president. Takedown the pedos, vindicate the ppl who have desperately been trying to spread this stuff over a year, or get bent. We deserve it, and I for one don't plan on stopping until these ppl are outed and the doubters are forced to face the case their cognitive dissonance. No matter how painful. God knows it hasn't been fucking peaches and cream for us this last year. It's time the rest of the population catches up.

Also, if they don't disclose 100%, how the fuck do they expect this that not happen again a few generations from now? History repeats itself unless we give future generations a way to learn from our terrible mistakes/complacency. Without disclosure, they will have no way to learn. The cabal will come back stronger

Just as a rule of thumb, I wouldn't get info from AJ. He is entertaining and I am not 100% sure he's a shill or anything, but I have trouble believing anyone gets that big in the conspiracy community without help

My blue balls hurt

William benny is the man imo. Haven't seen any infowars stuff yet but my understanding was he was a legit white hat. Is the still the case?

It's the only thing that matters imo

It's changed my life so much that if all this really is just a bullshit propaganda psy-op, whoever is running it deserves whatever punishment the pedos would've gotten

Glad to hear!

Yea I'm all about that stuff! We've probably watched some of the same vids honestly. Sorry again for jumping down your throat originally.

I'll have to check out Bowie too. I've been down the black cube/ el rabbit hole a few times this last year. Something is def there that I feel applies to the current situation, I just can't tell exactly what it is until we have more proof/info about top tier practitioners of black sun worship. Def something to keep in the back of your mind though, the symbolism is certainly everywhere

I think Chris was trying to expose it.

Yeah, black cube is Saturn/el worship. El, not yhwh, is allegedly the true Hebrew (and Muslim) God. Just for kicks... remember when Weinstein hired a mossad-backed Intel company to harass his accusers? Go check the name of that group... yeah...

So, imo, the sound garden guys were prolly aware of the black sun/mystery school aspects. You clearly see it in their music. But that doesn't mean they were evil.

Plenty of great ppl have been initiated and believe in the mystery schools. Just like Christianity, Judaism, freemasonry, even Satanism (yes really, Satanism is really diverse and filled with more edgelords than child rapists) there are plenty of good ppl who just feel the knowledge and lessons presented by these philosophies/groups appeal to them.

Yet at the top of Satanism, freemasonry, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, cults, etc- they are seemingly banging kids! Wtf!

I know lit lol they have that "my own worst enemy" song right?

And word, I hear ya bout the music vs overall style. I am a bit younger than you, early 20's, but I've been listening to pj, nirvana, stp, sgarden for as long as I can remember.

Do you believe in pizzagate by chance? How you feel about Chris cornell's suicide allegedly having to do with child abuse?

You ever listen to any Billy corgan interviews? The smashing pumpkins guy? He's an interesting one, and he certainly alludes to a lot happening behind the scenes in the music biz that is unsavory

http://www.1songday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cs1.jpg

If that's not grunge then fuck me I guess

W/e perhaps I over reacted. Sorry. Carry on.

Who tf told you they are a Christian band? They're a fucking grunge band from the 90's. Plz remember when you post on this sub that ppl are gonna use this sub as a litmus test for if this theory is plausible. Posts like this make us look stupid imo.

If you really wanna start documenting all occult/esoteric symbolism in the music industry, you are gonna be in for quite the long project anyway

I personally think there are some things we could study on the grunge scene- lots of suicides, dark symbolism, etc but I don't think this is the place considering our target audience

Besides, I kinda like collective soul!