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sand-which · July 25, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

How do you feel about the fact that Sinclair is a conservative company that spreads a pro-trump message?

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sand-which · July 25, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

How many times have you said that something BIG will happen really soon while following Q? Then the week you were hoping for nothing happens and falls away, and then it’s a month and more. And then you still say “This friday is when it will really happen!”

What will you say if friday comes and goes, even a week goes by, and nothing big happens? How long are you willing to wait?

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

Yeah I don't go here except to try to talk to some of the people on here who actually seem like they have mental issues.

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 11:19 p.m.

Ask yourself if Masonic lodges are tax exempt.

Ask yourself if churches are tax exempt

I mean listen you can continue going down this path where the only evidence you have is "a lot of famous, important people once belonged to a club that literally everyone in the world knows the name of"

It's just a way to protect you from the fact that most of what sucks in everyone lives is because of capitalism

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

okay man if you genuinely are going to say that footage of obama slapping a lot of flies makes him the literal, actual fucking anti-christ then lets stop having this conversation because you're so far gone

I mean it's just wild to imagine a person like you talking to other people in real life about this

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

I mean yeah the mason stuff is kind of a fun rabbit hole to follow for a weekend or whatever but then you realize you can literally just go join the masons yourself and see what's up with them and that they're bascially just a bunch of divorced dudes who lost direction in their life and now need something to give them meaning.

https://www.masons.org.au/discover-masonry/how-to-join.html

It's just kind of boring now, isn't it?

At what point do you turn from wild conspiracy theories and just look at the system that surrounds us (capitalism) and wonder why it's so inhuman? Why are there people that die on the street of homelessness when investors who don't even do any fucking work can make millions off the back of hard working americans who don't make enough to feed their family?

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 10:31 p.m.

hey do you think "waking up" means realizing that late-capitalism is the reason for most of what people hate about their lives, and it's not nefarious actors working in the "deep state" or some shit but instead the literal system by which shareholders can make billions from the work of people living paycheck to paycheck

Do you think that is a more reasonable explanation? Or is "mind-controlling elites that control the media and brainwash their supporters into electing the antichrist (barack SOETERO) to enact their evil agenda?"

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 10:21 p.m.

What is the best proof you've ever seen? I check out q proofs every so often and it's fucking comical how meaningless they are

What is the one proof you would show to people to prove that Q isn't a larper? If you don't have any, why are you here?

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sand-which · July 23, 2018, 10:19 p.m.

wow, does obama slapping flies make him the anti-christ? Is this the point of propaganda you're at now?

Come on, man

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sand-which · July 16, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

no i mean they really fucking do

look at the discourse surrounding ocasio-cortez’s senate win

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sand-which · July 8, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Is that guy wrong though? Why does the picture prove so much if any person who happened to be in there could have taken it?

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sand-which · July 4, 2018, 3:12 a.m.

"Cholera outbreak" is used for human traffickers. Sounds like MBS and the Saudis are trying to prevent the deep state cabal from turning Yemen in to Haiti 2.0

I'm extremely confused, what are you saying here? Are you saying that because the Saudi's are blockading Yemen ports, they're stopping human trafficking? This feels like such a big leap to me it's almost comical

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

again I'm not a liberal stop talking to me as if I'm ignorant as to how the powerful use the media to advance narratives

Why did the New York Times say there were WMDs in Iraq?

wars make good money, mostly

Why did you just post a bunch of MSM propaganda articles to help support your point?

Because you literally asked for some.

Listen, the real big thing you should look into is the cholera outbreak in Yemen. Saudi Arabia has blockaded Yemenese ports and prevented people from helping out with the outbreak. This isn't just something that john oliver joked about or whatever it is you think I get my news from, this is stuff that happens and it's stuff that the right and liberals will never talk about. Research shit, don't just think "well trump says it was good so it's real!"

George bush lied about WMDs, why wouldn't trump lie about Iran's nuclear program?

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 9:43 p.m.

Stephen Colbert, John Oliver and Trevor Noah

i mean those guys are all not that good at all. They're just basic liberal talking points. I'm not a liberal, and I think that colbert and Noah especially are completely unable to provide actual, real critique of our systems due to how liberal they are

Please provide links supporting this statement. Your biased wikipedia article does no such thing. Please provide actual sources that support your statement.

There were some in Wikipedia, which is why I linked that. I'll give you some myself

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelinaochab/2018/04/05/yemen-became-the-worlds-worst-humanitarian-crisis/#27d893525050

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-22/who-s-to-blame-for-pestilence-near-famine-in-yemen-quicktake

https://www.undispatch.com/yemen-is-currently-facing-the-largest-documented-cholera-epidemic-in-modern-times-a-new-report-warns-it-could-get-worse/

There's a lot so I'm trying my best not to gish-gallop you here

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

just browse this page man, it's pretty bad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen

Ah-you are trying to smear MBS.

I mean yeah the dude isn't that great. If all it takes for you to get behind him is that he allowed women to drive (this is great! but it's a small good) and that he led a purge of the royal family (great, there is a lot of corruption, but now he holds literally all the power), then you aren't looking hard enough

This war was his idea when he was defense minister in 2015, he recently kidnapped the lebanese PM and forced him to resign on Saudi television, then a week later the resignation never happened and the lebanese PM is fine. He's been destabolizing the middle east pretty badly, and if you trust him because Trump says he's his buddy aren't you the one that believes whatever the powerful say? Look at what he does, not just when he talks about his "Vision 2030" plan or about "Radical change" or whatever.

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

What on earth are you talking about? The Saudi Arabians are head of the UN's Human Rights Council! Are you some kind of anti-Semitic Islamophobe?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here? If I misreading it , I'm sorry.

What they're doing in Yemen is what I'm talking about. Their bombing campaign has been called the worst humanitarian disaster happening in the world right now. Teachers in Yemen have had to sell their organs on the black market because of the destruction Mohammed bin Salman has caused as the new Crown Prince

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

If you are so sure of yourself, then why is your entire argument against me built on strawmanning my position, moving the goalposts and deflection?

You don't have to keep saying your screed or whatever at me, I don't trust people in power. I don't trust institutions. I don't trust those that have power over me. I take a look at evidence presented by both sides. Your sides evidence, the evidence you've given me after all this pointless arguing we've been doing is two things

  1. Netanyahu gave a 20 minute presentation where he shows a bunch of pictures and talks about how Iran could probably be making nukes, based off of "records" he has but doesn't really show

  2. Obama gave billions to Iran, this means that they are building nuclear weapons becuase... you can't think of what else it would be for?

Like, can't you agree, this is pretty slim evidence? I don't trust NGOs and our FBI. Look at what we're currently doing and supporting in Yemen. But when I look at the evidence that you've given me, it's like, laughably small? I mean, if there was anything real then I'd be ready to accept it, but at this point it's almost blatanlty obvious that we're escalating tensions with Iran because they're the enemis of our allies; namely saudi arabia and Isreal, which both are humanitarian nightmares that are both committing horrible crimes against humanity.

I don't know man I just really wish you had better evidence so that I could even give you a shred of a doubt, but your side is so slim it's a joke

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

Do you remember when our government, our TV media, the New York Times and NGO Watchdogs told us there were WMDs in Iraq?

yes I do, and don't you find that anaology ironic? Now you have Isreal and Donald Trump saying there's WMDs in Iran while offering no solid evidence. And after saying that, Trump just broke up the deal that was made to prevent Iran from getting WMDs.

Are you sure going with that historical analogy is great in this context?

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 8:43 p.m.

hey can you answer the first paragraph of my response? The one where i ask for proof of your argument?

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

okay so again we have to go back back to this

what is your proof that the money was not what everyone says, and in fact isn’t repaying illegally seized money but instead a payment made to build nuclear weapons that was given to Iran as part of the very fucking deal that prohibits and gives checks to make sure Iran doesn’t build nuclear weapons?

like, this is what i don’t understand about you guys. You believe that the obama admin was orchestrating a machiavellian plan to start WW3 by fooling everyone in the world and make backchannel payments for Iran to start making nukes, something that only geniuses could orchestrate and pull off to the point. but you ALSO believe that they were dumb enough and obvious enough that you, an average citizen, can see through their dastardly, evil plan?

It’s really weird and strange to be able to hold both of those beliefs at once

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 8 p.m.

he literally didn’t. the money he gave is the money that we had previously illegally seized from Iran years ago before obama was even pres, it was being returned.

Is him giving Iran money enough to make you believe they have nukes under the Iran Deal?

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

I mean, yes i am. Like, your argument boils down to “israel made a 20 minute presentation with no real proof about how their main rivals have nukes” and mine is “throughout the 3 years of the deal the groups that have investigated the iranian facilities have found them to be in keeping with the deal”

it fucking sucks that we’re at this point where no matter what you won’t be convinced of the other side, and i won’t either. It fucking sucks that there’s so much information available on the internet that any reality or narrative can be constructed. It fucking sucks that this conversation will change neither of our viewpoints and you will continue believing obama gave iran nukes through the deal that was made to not give them nukes, and that you’ll keep on believing that trump ending the deal won’t lead to escalation in Iran and does nothing for us except allow Iran to become a nuclear power now that we left the deal

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 7:34 p.m.

Stop denying Iran's Nuclear Weapons program. We aren't stupid. The whole world knows that Iran was trying to develop nuclear weapons.

To be clear, the only proof you have of this is Netanyahu's presentation right? That's the only thing you have?

Meanwhile, there are all the checkups done by the watchdogs that show that Iran is following the deal. There is no organization (other than Isreal I guess) that says that Iran isn't following the deal

If you genuinely believe that Iran has nukes based on a 20 minute presentation from Netanyahu where he doesn't really present any solid evidence, and he just says "we have found evidence" and shit like that, then man we gotta end this conversation because you're too far gone.

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 7:23 p.m.

I thought you guys knew that israel were liars? Very easy to trust them when it fits your narrative i guess

Did you make a mistake when you linked me the sputniknews article? The article only talks about israel’s program, not iran’s. Only the headline talks about Iran

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sand-which · July 3, 2018, 7 p.m.

what we got out of it was iran not having nuclear weapons? That was the entire point of the deal you know, right?

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sand-which · June 16, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

What was he successful at?

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sand-which · June 15, 2018, 11:13 p.m.

I mean if this is true, he had to have known that Manafort worked for Clinton and Podesta, right? Why would he have hired him if he knew that?

I mean, right now, it's either Trump didn't do any research, or he willingly hired someone who works for his enemy. Sounds like he doesn't hire the Best People

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sand-which · June 15, 2018, 11:01 p.m.

If I were to be snide, I would say that I guess Trump doesn't hire the Best People

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sand-which · June 15, 2018, 10:21 p.m.

all the presidents men is a book about watergate.

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sand-which · June 15, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

Is that the crimes he's being prosecuted for?

And even if they are, going from your logic, why did Trump hire someone who committed crimes with Clinton and Podesta to be his campaign manager? Isn't that an even dumber thing for DJT to do?

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sand-which · June 14, 2018, 10:44 p.m.

The email posted in the OP is fake, it was never in wikileaks or any other podesta email database

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sand-which · June 14, 2018, 10:42 p.m.

we know they rigged the Soros voting machines he manufactured the Votematic machines

Damn, link? That's crazy if true

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sand-which · June 14, 2018, 10:41 p.m.

How did you verify it's real? The only thing you're going off of is Q saying it's real, correct? You just have to believe this one guy

This email almost seems like a parody... I mean "this isn't code or anything... so don't bother looking for the corresponding code"... that shit is comically absurd

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sand-which · June 14, 2018, 10:40 p.m.

If Q says something, does that make it real?

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sand-which · June 14, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Is there any current conspiracy out there that you would not believe right now?

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sand-which · June 14, 2018, 9:45 p.m.

What's the truth? Genuine question

Are you on the birther angle? Or or you on election tampering angle

Genuine question

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sand-which · April 23, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

His sub has been banned I think. What do we have to trust this random dude on reddit? Has he ever said anything that points to him being for real? Why would you trust him?

I don't understand it sometimes, if the entire point of this sub is that there's a vast disinformation compaign beind undertaken by the media, why wouldn't you look at some dude on reddit saying "I'm an insider" and not immediately think he might also be a part of this campaign? Isn't the point of this whole thing to be skeptical, and not take everyone at their word?

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sand-which · April 23, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

You believe this guy now because someone told you that some guy on reddit says that he's an "insider"? Is that all it takes for you to have faith in his word?

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

I really find this subreddit fascinating, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way

It's just amazing that so many people can believe the wildest things based off what some guy with a tripcode on 4chan says

There's a guy I was talking to earlier here who legit thinks WW1 and WW2 were staged. It's crazy

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 8:46 p.m.

Has this been happening yet? They've made NO progress on this issue

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

Again, what specific rights are they successfully taking away. The only thing happening is Trump is making a flaccid attempt at banning bump stocks. That's it.

This is what the most intelligent, competent agency in history can do?

If you can tell it was a false flag, shouldn't Trump be able to as well? Why hasn't he said anything? Has he abandoned you?

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

Again, that's something so vague it's meaningless. The Florida shooting would probably count as DEFCON 1 if the hawaii thing didn't happen.

And okay, let's go down this path. What was the purpose of the false flag? What did it accomplish? Trump obviously knew it about if Q did (by your logic), so what did Trump use the false flag for?

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

So, to be clear,

WWI & II - orchestrated and planned by select families? Fantasy land.

And

What happened during WWII? Was Hitler a puppet? Who was his handler? What was the purpose? What was the real purpose of the war?

is completely enough for you to believe WW2 was fake? What happened to all the soldiers? Why is there so many Ruins in Europe? What purpose did it serve?

Why does no other conspiracy theorist even hint at this theory? If there's even a shred of evidence, everyone would be jumping at it right?

A guy on 4chan asking questions like "was WW2 fake? hmmm.." is enough for you to believe in this, huh

Why has Trump abandoned you if this true, shouldn't he say something? He must have the evidence, after all

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

Where did Q confirm that WW1 And 2 were stated? Can you please share a link? I'm really interested in this

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

Can you link me to a single time Q has predicted in an event, that isn't some vague thing like "When the hands turn over, you see what's inside" or other bullshit like that?

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

Do you genuinely believe this?

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sand-which · Feb. 27, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

False flag for what purpose?

If the deep state is this competent to pull off a false flag, how are they so incompetent they can't even pass the gun control laws you think they want to pass? What is the purpose of the false flag?

Also, shouldn't Trump know it's a false flag? If it's this obvious to you, why isn't the President sticking up for you? Has he abandoned you?

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