Let's talk with Jim-san , who is the manager of bbspink.com. If you can write your questions or some other things in English, please write them in English.
Since Jim-san is very kind, so that in case you get spelling error, or write in incorrect grammar, he will be able to understand what you want to say.
Those who cannot understand English may write them in Japanese. Accommodating persons will translate for you.
Jim, 79 told us she has not talked with you directly even under this emergency. Why? I can't believe it. Though I know you're very busy right now, but visit refuge thread and talk with us immediately.
1/Why were you against blocking syste before? 2/Didn't you feel any feeling of gratitude who are working as volunteer in 2ch? 3/IF you are against 2ch blocking system plan, do you have any alternative ideas? and are those practicall available? 4/Can you run bbspink without 2ch help? 5/Moreover, what are you going to deal with this vandalism as manager of bbspink?
>>10 I have never been against blocking. You are talking nonsense. I am not playing a violin and watching Rome burn. I am trying to help. I am not your vandal, please don't point the finger at me. I am very busy right now. Of course I feel gratitude for 2ch volunteers.
18和訳 Jim-san, you don't have enough information about Jimさん、あなたは単に2chの書き込みポリシーを十分に知っていないだけだと思います。 一度、私は79さんがあなたにそれについて説明できると信じていました。 けれど、彼女はそれをしなかったのだろう。
I go and thank for Jim-san, ひろゆきさん for a state, the administration of the huge bulletin board. The difference of the interpretation is apt to occur in English and the Japanese, but can understand that Jim tries improvement as hard as possible.
However, a scale becomes too gigantic to do all alone. Because you express it, would you talk about the intention that cooperates in various places of 2ch? I worry about whether I get a body out of order
>>45 Thank you for understanding. I know it can't be done alone. To many people are helping right now, and I thank them for helping. I always want to cooperate. Good teams should not be broken up.
>>46 Though Jim-san is busy, thank you for an answer.
I misunderstand even Japanese by a way of writing and an expression method, and quarrelling occurs. It is worry whether this English translation comes properly, but is glad when I have you understand that you write that you want to tell you about praying for BBSPINK prospering continuously and are crowded.
Though I am busy for Jim-san, I bother you and feel am sorry. BBSPINK thanking you in advance.
Would you please let us know actual BBS PINK blocking system situation.
1. Could you get approval to rent 2ch blocking system? 2. How the BBSPINK blocking system work actually? 3. What is your opinion how to avoid similar problem from now on. 4. Please let us know what you want to help for us BBSPINK users. Do you feel to organize something similar system or organizanization to keep better?
I am sorry that you may be sick of hearing flood of questions from everybody, Ms. Greenday was saying there were disagreement about blocking system between you. I am asking you below because I am not sure if you know the details of the blocking system.
Do you want us to explain current 2ch blocking system? (how it works, how it operates, etc) For example, (BBQ, BBM, Rock54/54M, Samba24, ByeSaru) the ones that were removed in current disaster and/or ISP blocking system
>>63 Are you an examiner or something? As a minimum, ｙou should state the purpose of this question clearly because that's essentially none of your business. Sounds arrogant...
Good evening jim-san. This is 20:20 p.m. by Japan time.
I am one of the users of this bulletin board and worry about BBIPINK from the day before yesterday.
79-san is troubled with correspondence alone. As for staying, it is まりも-san and ﾅﾅ-san yume-san to be going to help 79-san from the early stage.
Please listen to the remark of these various places more than the remark of the user. It is these various places to worry about BBSPINK kindly. Please thanking you in advance.
jim-san. I wrote it and passed an important person. Even if MUMUMUhnYI-san and Fox-san already knows jim, this person helps BBSPINK. I was sorry that I excluded a name.
Please please help BBSPINK. I hope that better talks are possible.
>>58 Thank you Jim-san! I didn't know that phrase. Now I'm smarter than before! By the way, I'm really glad we BBSPINK members survived those tough events of the past few days. Of course, I know there are lots of problem remained unsolved. And I know those problems have to be solved because they are the main point of this issue. It's gonna be tough work. However, now I just wanna express my gratitude to people who saved my favorite thread! Thank you all including you and Hiroyuki the master of 2ch who must have worked hard to get us through that ARASHI's terrible attack. We can't see each other directly, so it's difficult to grab what's going on underthe table. But I believe people are trying hard to improve BBSPINK. Anyway, thank you! Sorry for my poor english!
>>64 arrogant? does it sounds like so, Jim? If so, it is because of my English skill. 79 is not technical person, and I doubt if she explained Jim in detail what kind of protection system is on currently for BBSPINK as well as 2ch. If Jim does not have enough knowledge about the system and what kind of control BBSPINK has currently, it might be a good idea to explain them now (as he now know the importance of them) for changing current system situation or might give him a hint for developing a new p rotection system, as he mentioned.
>>61-70 Right before Christmas the blocking system was removed from PINKちゃんねる This was done because of a communication error. I became angry as well. It is easy to lose your temper when things are falling apart quickly. After a lot of discussion the cause of the communication breakdown was determined and the blocking system was restored. Thank you for all the help from the volunteers. They are appreciated so much. あいあい http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1197963239/77-84 This list is not complete though. I will compile a better list for you later today.
> This list is not complete though. I will compile a better list > for you later today.
Thank you.
I think the following format is better.
Some servers are placed as "backyard" server (e.g. deleter), and the servers are not served BBS and other services for external users. So, I think these servers should not be listed publically, I think. I believe the list works for external usage of 2ch and bbspink.
>>70 I cannot understand what they do. But I can see now you and they doing is for the sake of us that BBS PINK's. I want to say you. Jim-san "arigatou".
>>81 どもありがとう I can only write that on paper though. I can not type it, or say it. It needs to be written in hiragana also for me to really learn it. That way, I am just a cut and paste parrot....;)
In the past, we use this thread only in English maybe. The translation thread title is Let's talk with Jim-san. Eng. > Jap. People unable to write in English ,just post in Japanese. and then translated by nanashi.
>>81 じゃないかなと。= I guess This is good for me. I have mastered reading hiragana. My vocabulary is lacking, but I can sound out the kana. Now I am working on katakana. It is more difficult to learn, but probably more useful in a technical environment since most of the technical terms seem to be borrowed words. Kanji I learn on the fly. I need to know the hiragana sound and spelling then I can actually learn how to read and write them. I know the meaning of at least 200 Kanji, but I can not pronounce them or type them because I don't know the sound of them.
>>92 I am trying to learn Japanese. I am trying very hard. Jim is a poor student though. I am studying at least 3 hours everyday, and reading what I can online. I also read children and anime books.
>>70 I understand the concept of the protection system. I am not certain how the protection system on 2ch works. It not a good idea to teach me that here. Loose lips sink ships. The protection system our office is working on will be based on my knowledge of how to block. I don't know if it will be better or worse since it is not complete yet. If it is better, then it will be given to 2ch if they want to use it.. If it is worse, then I will quietly change the subject...;)
It is splendid that even jim-san, a hiragana letter are readable. And, in I spare much time, and having concentrated power on restoration of BBSPINK, until the end of it with the feeling of thanks.
Including MUMUMU-san, I thank for having poured great labor.
Yeah It sounds good. Let's go in becoming good. We should do to be gettin' pretty better. We appreciate you that In this time and usual, you make efforts with the variety.
Hi Jim, MUMUMU gave us the basic knowledge on the remote host access regulation of 2-channel. (http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1198650656/622) So we would like to share it with you to be on the same page, although you might know it already.
Currently, 2-channel has four types of remote host access regulation. - Not allowed to post to all servers (both 2-channel and bbspink) - Not allowed to post to all bbspink servers - Not allowed to post to specific servers - Not allowed to post to specific boards
And he said he thinks it is not a realistic way to modify the given bbs.cgi when applying it to bbspink, in other words it should be used as it is.
>>104 I won't be modifying the current bbs.cgi If it is working I am very happy....:) If it is not working them I am very sad...:( So I プライthat is works all the time.
>>106 Jim-san, ありがとう for your reply. I also pray... いのります。
BTW, we wanna to be in a contemporary information loop always together with you and 79. So we will write down something new or unconvincing here as much as possible, to avoid communication gaps that could cause たいへんだぁ.
>>114 me too! >>116 You have given the appropriate textbook answer....;) "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King Jr. Actually some of the things that MLK did make it possible for us to have this thread.
>>126 it seems that pie and sakura03 are the most likely to die next. Nobody knows when a hard drive or power supply will fail, but those servers are the weakest right now
I just replaced cream109 which was http://blog.bbspink.com It was crashed during Christmas as well. It is replaced with xbanana2004 Settings are being done now and it should be live again in an hour or so.
Jim-san, The provisional bbspink policy on legal responsibility is shown on http://www.bbspink.com/_policy.html . The statement does not have your (typed) signature that is definitely necessary. It seems to be just missing, but let us confirm it because it is very important and fundamental matter. At this moment, we just need your word of approval for it, "あいあい".
Jim-san, I wrote a comment to 79. Roughly translation version is as follows. Please point it out when my remark is not appropriate.
-- 79,
All of Jim-san's approval should be opened clearly at bbspink itself. It should be fully-disclosed for all project members and bbspink users. 79, you don't understand bbspink is fully-opened BBS for discussion. If you do not so, all members cannot do it be trusted.
You wrote "The project is private consented from Jim-san.". What is "private consented"? Statement itself? Project's outline? or some other matters? I cannot understand it.
And I wrote "Please rename the file name including 'alpha' for displaying alpha-version." Can't you read it? Version control and some other my sugestions are only technical matters. You do not ignore a part of the essence intentionally. OK?
Such a kind of rename from "policy" to "_policy" is meaningless because the link URL does not tell the description of it.
And at last, you please stop doing completely different things after saying "Hai, wakarimashita".
Before you say "Hai, wakarimashita", you must describe your understanding about the matter, and you don't do anything after approval that your understanding is correct.
>>148 Thank you for uploading that for me again. I must have deleted by accident. Lets fix some spelling errors. delitions = deletions Lets change this line - Jim is primarily responsible for all of the actions and results of actions which are done by volunteers. Volunteers have no responsibility. Jim is responsible to insure that deletion requests are accepted and taken care of appropriately. If someone feels that their deletion request has not been dealt with fairly by an anonymous volunteer, then they may contact Jim directly at Jim あと bbspink.com. Volunteers are not responsible at all to view, respond to, or comply with requested deletion requests.
>>152 What type of statement would you like? Legally and officially it is an unmoderated bbs and my responsibilities would be to insure that it does not violate the current law of the United States of America. Nobody else has that responsibility.
>>154 Thank you. ども ありがとう ございます。 I was not certain of that. In some languages they do not leave a space, and in a lot of writing I see on bbspink, there is not a space. Actually that is so difficult for me to read too.
>>155 Welcome back, Jim-san. I can imagine your legal situation in US. On the other hand, there are many types of volunteers who support bbspink operations, for example, troll reporters, communicator to ISP on access control reguration, etc. At least, we would like you to state "All types of volunteers who support bbspink operation have no legal resposibility."
>>157 I am sorry I have already drank 1/2 bottle of rum tonight. I understand what you want. I only addressed deleters. I will address the rest when I wake up. Of course my obligation is the same for the protection of other volunteers. Let me write it so it sounds official tomorrow.
>>159 Yes I know so important and I have to figure the way to protect myself as well. I am not worried about the legalities of what is posted here. I am more worried about unscrupulous individuals that attempt to blackmail and extort in exchange for things going their way on the boards. So how do I protect myself from them and also give the volunteers the protection that they deserve? That is why I need not to be drunk when I write it. this statement - "All types of volunteers who support bbspink operation have no legal resposibility." gives the jerks that might do that the support to do it, and laugh about it later. While our volunteers are busy cleaning up the mess.
OK. I have read the translation of this. Lost in translation I guess. http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1198650656/l50 Lets make 2 more drafts. >>160 Don't forget about my feelings in this post. Also >>149 Lets make one by colaberation and I would like to see むむむーさん write one as well. He has some interesting ideas, but his way of explaining in English is a little hard to comprehend. I can review these 2 documents. Then combine the best parts of both, and we can have 1 good document to talk about and modify.
The Japanese police and tax collectors have no right to anything from Pink Channel. If they are investigating someone I can not help that, but it sounds like harassment. Maybe there is a legal way for them to stop harassing? Does the government have a right to harass people? I don't think so. In practice they do though.
>>JIM-san Your these words spread through the partner&friend;&nanashi;, being good. All of yours translated by "翻訳さん" PLZ appreciate! ATTN:翻訳さん ほんとうに感謝です。
Because the Japan time is quite late, that 翻訳さん breaks off suddenly is thought. Please attention.
>>188 I would like to order servers. This is what I would like to order 2 xbanana for replacement of pie and sakura03 server 1 NAS for kakolog. Is this correct? I need ai ai from Redbrick or Fox on that.
>>192 Hai. I understand that. I want to make sure to get the correct equipment for the job. The new bananaNAS is an excellent machine. I actually got to help in designing the specs for that with another engineer and the President of Polywell.
>>214 Accessories are part of fashion, but only part. They are like the frosting on a cake. I am not sure because I have not spent much time reading adultaccessory, but I thought it was more dedicated to body modification and sexy toys like dildos and vibrators.
>>215 Yeah, I know it is a part of a fashion. But take a look at the contents. The longest thread in it is 3 years old, which was around the same time as the board birth. I think scrap and build is necessary too, not just keep adding a new board,
>>223 It is going to be a good year. I just walked outside to smoke. There was a pretty girl trying to open the door with a key, a book and a cup of coffee in her hand. The wind blew, and of course NO PANTIES! Lucky day for a lucky year.
>>263 Please be clear. 79 doesn't order anything for bbspink. Only Jim orders things for bbspink. Right to many people are telling me they have ordered things etc. But nothing is ordered unless I order it. I want to order this. I am waiting for a clear order for the equipment. I have ordered to many times in the past. Trying to get this upgrade done, but those servers were used for other projects because the volunteers were not ready at that time to help with the upgrade. Now they are ready to help. I need to confirm the order. 1 ebanana 4 tbanana is what I want to order. I need a confirmation from FOX or REDBRICK on that.
pie/ sakura03 are almost about to be crushed. I will watch this thread, and if somebody reports that one of those ( or both ) is ( are ) down, I will ask reboot.
If you think it's not necessary, I will delete that thread.
Continuous lubrication is inevitable because it's an unmoderated bbs. You had better go a talk proactively especially with 2ch keymen as well as nanashi-sans in bbspink. And SHOW THE FLAG.
Jim!!! I thinks that it is rude to other delater to give such an answer. When you do such a thing, I feel sorry for other delater. There is not a viewpoint of other delater. Other delater deletes it according to a rule.
Hi,Jim. I am enjoying communications in BBS-Pink. I learnt BBS-Pink was your property recently. From whom are you receiving one's salary about the work of BBS-Pink? Or, are you a head of a company?
Salary? I get paid for my real job. I am Chairman of the board for N.T.Technology I don't get paid anything for playing on BBSPINK. It is my passion, and seems to take up most of my free time.
Good morning, jim san. I think that it's better to disclose your full name(cf. Bill Gates → William Henry Gates third )on the BBSPINK statement WIKI so that Japanese police should not misunderstand 「BBSPINK is governed by 2ch!! Let's questioning Hiroyuki or FOX!!」. I want your opinion about it, please.
>>285 But many Japanese police is ignorance about BBSPINK. Thus we should announce by many way,「BBSPINK is not 2ch」. Disclosing your full name looks more reliable and will make less possible for Japanese police to misunderstand that bbspink is governed by 2ch. Hiroyuki or FOX are supposed to be afraid of mistaken arrest on BBSPINK operation.
>>288 NO,NO. My English brain have shattered. And Japanese brain is shattered now.
>>288 You can drink as much as you like without without regard to their legal risk...:)
What 286 wants to tell you is; "Hiroyuki or FOX are supposed to be afraid of mistaken arrest on bbspink operation."
I think you've already known their concern. In fact, you've submitted your business card to Japanese police as the bbspink administrator.
Nonetheless, Japanese policemen still visit to FOX and question him on bbspink operation. That's why we bbspink should prepare some policy statement with declaration of bbspink individuality from 2-channel, so that they (Hiroyuki, Fox, and other 2ch related guys) can help or support us without the risks.
>>291 Yes of course. Ignorant policemen should not be poking their nose where they don't understand things, but we can't help or stop that. It is a fact that the people that tend to become police officers are the ones that want to bully other people. Or are criminals themselves. I used to be a recruiter for the Army. When I did that job the people that always asked to become Military Police, were always the ones that had been in trouble before. Yes we need to write a policy for these police to read, but will they bother reading it?
>>297 > Yes we need to write a policy for these police to read, but will they bother reading it? The bbspink policy statement could be used by 2ch operation guys as a shield protection when policemen ask them on bbspink operation.
>>297 In fact, bbspink volunteers are preparing the draft policy statement and 79-san has a plan to fix Japanese version by 7th and propose the translated one to you as a draft. Can you give us your concurrence on the procedure? Or any other procedure?
If I chown a directory outside of an account does it deny the access to what is currently accessing that directory? Or does it add the account I want to have access to that directory.
I'm sorry to disturb the conversation. This is my opinion.
Although you have agreed to the procedure of policy statement creation above, I have another an idea. I think it's better you yourself create the policy statement, because bbspink is owned by you and the statement defines your responsibility. In addition, I think the statement originated by you can make bbspink users understand your thought further and exactly, and make your friends in 2ch relieved. Then they can help you on bbspink operation easily.
>>308 I will create my own policy if we don't agree on something here. I will say あいあい to the one that is created here after I review it. Either way we will have a policy. Probably the one I create will not be as good as the one created by all the smart people that post here. (I am just a regular guy, not so smart. In Chinese 我是老百姓)
And guys lets not do anything we don't have to do either. This policy we are making will need to follow these Articles from the constitution Dated 3rd day of the eleventh month of the twenty-first year of Showa. The one signed by Hirohito-sama. Article 19 Article 21 and Article 98. I think these 3 apply directly to the policy we are making.
This is part of situation on BBSPINK. (thanks for translation and help.)
First of all, Jim-san may wonder why FOX-san and Mumumu-san only post indirect expression what they want BBSPINK(or Jim-san) to do. That is because if they say it directly, it is perceived as a demand from 2ch to BBSPINK and the police may determine that is the evidence BBSPINK is under 2ch's control.
In the past, a person who are doing server maintenance for 2ch was questioned by police. "You must be somehow related with BBSPINK because you are doing the server maintenance(reboot remotely, etc)" He answered them that he was helping JIM and doing so for a part of business practices. The police did not believe him because there must be a contract or order statement should exist if it is for business. Then he quits doing sever reboot etc., for BBSPINK so that he would not be doubted by the police that he is somehow related to BBSPINK. Police has a tendency to doubt the things without evidence while they are investigating.
The people who does server setup and maintenance would like to have as many firm evidences such as public statement at BBSPINK site, order statement, etc. as possible to present to the police that they are unrelated to BBSPINK and the police should ask JIM-san about the BBSPINK. It seems that they are reluctant to help BBSPINK without such evidence. You said that you will not make official paper(contract or order statements., etc) Although I have no idea that it may be possible to do so in closed fashion, I would like to suggest you should talk with your friend by mail or phone, knowing the friend cannot demand something to BBSPINK openly.
>>314 With your understanding above, you still will not make some paper or email for 2ch that describes your request on bbspink sever setup and maintainance? This is just confirmation on your thought, for our reference.
>>315 I need to understand the reasoning behind this a lot more before I make any such paper. Who is this paper for? Is it for all the private people that help out on bbspink? Is it for my friends, who would ask for it privately and not in front of thousands of people. Are the volunteers needing this paper? Will I ask them for their name, address and phone number so that I can mail it to them? Is it for some kind of trap for me? Am I going to be invoiced for work done and have to pay money because of this paper? I still have to many questions, and not enough understanding to make a paper.
At first I ask you a question. How does Jim-san think? 1 BBSPINK and 2ch are the same things. 2 BBSPINK and 2ch are totally another things. 3 BBSPINK and 2ch are friendly.
Dear Jim-san. I think that you have the power that you can judge in various examples definitely.
Because some who make a note here want power in the PINK bulletin board, "Hey, Jim-san I are your friends. Do you want to help you? Therefore give me ★ and say ".
I wish that I do not be deceived for the words. The person who has a bad influence on a PINK bulletin board joins in them.
>>316 Jim-san, no general volunteers need such a paper. Just 2ch operation guys ( ひろゆき、FOX、むむむ etc) need it for bbspink server setup and maintainance. The purpose of the paper is one thing; The paper would be used as a powerful shield protection for them when policemen ask them on thier standpoint on bbspink operation. Because the paper could work as a good evidence that shows they perform the operation based on your request, not their own intention. It's important for them to be secured from legal risk.
Anyway, I recommend you to talk with them offline.
>>312 Jim-san, Chester wants to make bbspink better and enjoyable ONLY for himself, not for everyone. Many people know his nuisance activity as a troll. Do not give any endorsement to him.
333 名前：Chester ◆MdLAsir8f. [sage] 投稿日：2008/01/07(月) 10:56:18 ID:lr5K5s0V >>332 I complain of you. I just want to do be better rather than now. Are you satisfied with 2ch and BBSpink.
336 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2008/01/07 (日) 03:52:49
ID:
Yvy341Ld
I have finally figured out my ideal weight. Right now I am to heavy. 250 pounds. When I was 18 years old. I weight 180 pounds and was 11% body fat. I think that is impossible for me now. So I have set my goal at 200 pounds and 20% bodyfat.
>>342 Jim-san, what kind of excercise are you doin? if it is too hard, that'll break your knees and back, please be careful. I've strained my back when I was doing bike and dumbbell too much. Back is man's hot rock, let's have happy life!
>>343 I do the eliptical trainer for 30 minutes, then rowing for 30 minutes, then bike for 30 minutes, then swim for 30 minutes. Please take care of your back, when your back hurts it is so difficult to enjoy the good things in life.
Dear Jim-san, I went to Takaragawa-Onsen for hot spring care of my back. Then I bathed together with a bear cub and banqueted at night. But Onsen-Geisha girls there are all old women...orz There is little young Onsen-Geisha girl at any Onsen in Japan. My back has already healed, thanks.
＜I can't read/write English, so these message were translated by some volunteers. I sincerely appreciate their effort. ＞>>342 and This.
Japanese officers probably can not distinguish from 2ch to bbspink. So then they've thrown suspicion or unreasonable requirements on your friends 2ch guys who help bbspink server operation and are identified by the officers.
In order to make your friends get out of such a unreasonable situation, it must be needed to clarify the bbspink responsible is Jim and is dependent from 2ch. I don't know what's the best way to convince the wrong-headed Japanese officers. announcement of policy statement? or some papers? or any other...?
I think we must not discuss on open place what should be done, because it produces misunderstanding if a japanese officer finds it. I'd like to ask you to contact your friends directly. By doing that, I believe the best solution can be found.
We all hope that you and your friends can enjoy operating and maintaining bbspink both now and in the future.
>>346 Young onsen geisha girls probably would not know how to heal your back, they would probably know how to heal other parts of your body. Old women know how to do things like that. Just close your eyes, and always say yes. Bear cubs are cute. Adult bears are monsters.
>>358 KKK is not an important group in the USA anymore. They are mostly uneducated, ignorant men. I am sure their must be similar groups in Japan, but I don't know their group names. The most important thing about the KKK is that in the USA they have the right to say what they want to say without someone shutting them up. When you were in GA and saw them, did you see another group protesting the KKK? That is usually what happens.
Ive never seen another group. Resistance influence---
Now, it reaches BIG TUESDAY. I saw debate on TV.
Everything of the world should be solved by the discussions without such as the armed. This is an opinion of Japanese with peaceful mind maybe. みんな なかよく
Three tomatos are walking down the street: Papa Tomato, Mama Tomato and Baby Tomato. Baby Tomato start lagging behind and Papa Tomato gets very angry. He goes back, sqeezes him and says: "Ketchup!" (Catch Up!)
I am ◆vhYMk.qMZA, a leader of "Let's get friends with vandalisers Project" which is under 79's control. Interviewers attempt to talk with vandalizers to make peace among each other. This is a kind of an independent project and it has nothing to do with technical blocking systems.
*What we call vandalisers are people who try to ruin bbs by tons of posting with scripts.
Our goal is to solve a part of problems peacefully by communicating with them. Although I understand this project may not be that much effective to solve this issue substantially and that it might be going to take such a long time for us to reach a peaceful solution, but I still believe that this is worth trying. I hope you will allow us to continue this experimental project.
Jim-san, I hope you realize that there are also this kind of more communicative ways in addition to technical practicabilities in order to protect bbspink from those vandalism.
Jim-san. This is a just recent story. Regulation of bbspink stopped. Do you remember that you fell into great confusion for those several days? The person who became that tumultuous ringleader is ◆vhYMk.qMZA .
◆vhYMk.qMZA said to FOX-san. "BBSPINK does not need to regulate".
There are many opinions of the criticism. It is strange to let ◆vhYMk.qMZA do a volunteer.
Hi Jim. A female proffesor in a Christian Women's University said to the students. "I would like to prove all males are rats, and we women are real humans" "When God tried to create the, he did a experiment in his lab using a rat named "Adam", then he had created a real human named "Eva".
>>375 I am understanding this. Google is not perfect translator but it is pretty good. If possible I would like to add this to help protect me.
1.Volunteers might have the ability to cause damage to PINKちゃんねる This document does not absolve them of their responsibility if they vandalize PINKちゃんねる . 2. Due to the open architecture of PINKちゃんねる It is possible for other sites to access the dat files on our servers. Non technical people would think that those sites were PINKちゃんねる , and not the actual PINKちゃんねる. This could cause confusion, and delay reporting important things that should be reported. Causing me to be liable for something that was really only a error. I want to reserve the right to block those sites that do not have a clear link to http://www.bbspink.com/ with these words exactly PINKちゃんねる on every page that they access a .dat file from. This will make it clear to users, where to report things like deletion requests, trolling, etc etc.
But I really think that it is better for you to make English version by professional translator. Because ppl know that you do not understand Japanese, and if there is no English official virsion on the website, I do not think Japanese government will take it serious.
The point is to make japanese government official understand that you are the person who is responsible for pinkちゃんねる。
So I recommend to make official English version by pro.
>>381 Official translation is fine. Do not waste time on it until you add 1. and 2. from >>376 I will say AI AI on this after those 2 are added. I have been reading and following this whole process through translators. I have not even updated my blog since this started because I have been reading here. Official translation is good. It is better to discuss 1. and 2. from >>376 first though.
>>385 Relax, I am not yelling at you. I am just trying to make you understand. I understand the essence of this document. I want 2 things added to it, and that I will get it officially translated when we are finished.
>>376 >Due to the open architecture of PINKちゃんねる It is possible for >other sites to access the dat files on our servers. Huh? Means ya set permission 777(rwxrwxrwx)? It is extremely dangerous.
>>399 Well, come along! I've got two spears, And I'll poke your eyeballs out at your ears; I've got besides two curling-stones, And I'll crush you to bits, body and bones.
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1199057402/464 These servers are ordered. Please do me a favor though. When we set them up. I need to keep a separate subdomain for each of the current servers, with different IP for each. so if we put the contents of sakura01 and sakura02 on 1 server, they would need to be different subdomains still. Different accounts on the same server with different IPs. I need this. subdomain ください ほしい です
I'm ◆EROyVmNwwM and pleased to talk to you here. After completing the current urgent priority matters, issurance of policy statement and server refresh works, we'd like to build "Setsumei-nin"(Explainer) framework, to support ones who have got dragged into write inhibit in 2ch and bbspink, Some volunteers are now holding discussion on the framework. We will wrap up the detail and show you for getting your concurrence in the near future. This is just for your information.
>>405 is that in Nevada? It was on the news that they had flooding. I think the spring will be worse. So much snow and then it will melt quickly and make to much water I guess.
>>406 It is written the flood in the newspaper article with FERNLEY of Nevada state. It is written that 310,000 households are the power failures in California state.
I rely on the automatic translation because I am not good at English. Please forgive no understanding well.
I want only to talk with vandalisers. And I want to research the motivations of vandalisers. Because I am convinced that knowing vandaliser's motivations will lead to the vandalism-problem solving.
A lot of of vandalisers is angry because of user's mental abuse, and I want to calm down their anger by talking with them.
Jim-san, My superior is 79-san, and my English is very unskilled. Please ask 79-san detail of this project.
No no no no, Jim-san, ◆vhYMk.qMZA hates your friend FOX. He has complained to us about FOX's statements, and he has vandalized the 2ch and the BBSPINK. We cannot believe all ◆vhYMk.qMZA 's statements.
◆79EROOYuCc gave him a CAP. We deplore her action.
I have two servers that are out of inodes. That is to many files for the OS. They don't have as many files as our servers here. Is there a solution other than reformatting with different settings to increase the available inodes?
>>434 This is kind of important as the servers I am having inode problem with are xbanana servers, which are the same server as tbanana with 4 processors instead of 2. We need to make sure to set the inodes at an increased level on the tbanana I think I don't want to get this problem on our boards.
On FreeBSD, users can use tunefs command for tuning some filesystem parameters, but tunefs can't increase number of inodes.
I think you can increase inodes by using newfs -i 2048 option, but it will initialize the filesystem. So you need to evacuate your whole data from the disk, unfortunately.
>>436 Thanks Mumumu-san. I have heard that with freeBSD6.2 There is a way without reformatting. I was hoping to find that way. If not then I will be like the itsy bitsy spider again....:(
>>437 Hmm, sorry, I am not sure that FreeBSD 6.2R has the way to colve it or not. But I've read the manuals briefly on my servers running FreeBSD 6.3-RC1 and 7.0-RC1... And I can't find the solution still...
>>439 You are correct friend. I have read many pages and all are saying the same thing. I need to start over fresh. This is one of the reasons I don't want to double up servers though. I think it might be dangerous for us. Maybe we should slow down our move to the new servers, and just do it one server for one server. I have ordered 3 servers. 2 for the boards and one for the headline. We could delay the headline upgrade, and use the 3 for boards, and wait a little while for the headline and the 4 server upgrade. Don't you think it is better not to take a chance?
>>441 Ah, I understand what you concerned. Do you worry about the density of the server increasing for BBSPINK bbs, perhaps?
If so, I believe that the worry is not necessary.
We, including Fox and I, have been operated many 2ch BBS servers for over 5 years. And in the current 2ch tbanana servers, there are high-capacity servers.
Always I and some good 2ch volunteers check the current board placements, and almost of all tbanana servers are well-tuned.
You can see the current servers' and boards' placement information in my webpage: http://mumumu.mu/serverlist.html It includes bbspink servers/boards information, too.
And we've operated 1T HDD server, named oyster902 with Suma for over 4 years. And its /home HDD is almost full, but the usage of inodes is only 19%, as seen below:
>>457 It looks good. Translates well automatically. That means there is a minimum of slang in the document. I don't have any problem with this. Should I wait for an official translation?
In 2ch manner, new server is given its own new name. For example, when "etc6.2ch.net" server is replaced, new server is given "etc7.2ch.net" as new server name. (And old etc6.2ch.net will move to "kakolog" server later)
I think you have two concerns, 1) When board URI is changed, do users stray from the board? 2) When server is changed, do users have to make the new threads?
But both are no problem. I will explain the reason in my next res.
But, I have to take a bath now. Chotto mattete kudasai.
1) In 2ch manner, each boards are moved to the new URI, each the old URI have "the moving mark" to the new URI, during the moving operations by Fox-san.
e.g. You can access "Feti" board in bbspink at old URI, http://wow.bbspink.com/feti/ . It is automatically redirected to http://pie.bbspink.com/feti/ . So, I believe that when boards in pie, and sakura0[1-3] will be moved, users will redirect to new URI. So, you don't have to worry about 1), I think.
2) In 2ch manner, each boards are moved to the new URI, all live threads are copied into the new bbs, during the moving operation by Fox-san. So, users can access all live thread in the new URI again, and I think you don't have to worry about 2), too.
And many users refers "BBS menu in 2ch" to access each boards, in http://menu.2ch.net/bbsmenu.html and http://menu.2ch.net/bbstable.html . These bbsmenu and bbstable are updated frequently enough, by diligent 2ch volunteer Mahora-san. So, users don't lose their access way.
I believe that the two new BBS servers will be given new name. So, it is not pie, sakura01, sakura02 and sakura03.
I think pie, sakura01, sakura02 and sakura03 will moved to kakolog server (I heard it is now setup in progress, named banana3001) after refreshing is complete.
I must tell "The life of virtual host name of 2ch" to you. It is a little bit long, but it is very important. Please read carefully and please understand well.
1) In the beginning
It is fresh virtual host, it is brand-new.
2) Growing up
Users make threads, write many reses, discuss and sometimes flames. So, the bulletin boards prosper, and lands are made.
3) Refreshment operation
As the result, each virtual hosts have so many kakologs. Then, the cost that each server uses to provide kakologs grows bigger and bigger.
Then we carry out refreshment operation to divide it into another server. The refreshment operation is as follows:
a) _add_ a different virtual host at the current server usually in 2ch, it is "the increasing name", e.g. for society5, 2ch will add society6 in the _same_ server hardware.
b) all of live threads are moved (called "Iten") to new virtual host, but all kakologs are NOT moved. they are left in old virtual host.
c) after that, we move old virtual host to kakolog server, it has very disk space. 2ch already has two kakolog servers, oyster902+Suma and banana3000. They are specially tuned for providing kakologs.
d) as a result, we can divide the kakolog load from live servers.
4) End of Life
Time goes by, and server greets its life. Any kind of high-performance server must come to retire itself in several years, so, the progress of the hardware is amazing.
It is time of this, we moved all of live thread to brand new servers. And we move a dead body of virtual host into kakolog servers.
This is the cruel theory of 2ch. We have already have a dead body of a lot of virtual hosts in oyster902 and banana3000. The number of over 200, please see http://mumumu.mu/serverlist.html at oyster902 section. 2ch gives the name for oyster902 and banana3000 to "memories.2ch.net" and "memories2.2ch.net", with affection for the past.
So, pie, sakura01, sakura02 and sakura03 are old. I think we would operate 4) in the above.
Mochiron, we can set two or more virtual hosts per server without any additional IP address if it is technically needed, it is technically very easy, only Apache's matter.
Really, in 2ch, we already set virtual hosts more than 2 to some servers. e.g. banana3206 have three virtual hosts, academy6.2ch.net, science6.2ch.net, and society6.2ch.net. These virtual hosts have different board settings, for good BBS operations.
so, if we needed two or more virtual hosts per server technically and operationally, we can _add_ more two virtual hosts _atode_. As I wrote before, it is technically easy.
That's all. I believe our tomorrow is better than today. Let's play a game together.
I don't know any not technical matters (financial, and so on) of bbspink. If your request about four virtual host is derived from not technical reason, it is completely my outside.
I only help you from a technical aspect of BBS operation, because I am engineer.
Of course, if you need four or more virtual hosts, you can set them.
It is only I wanted to say is that two or four new names are not pie, sakura01, sakura02 and sakura03. They have different names, and I've relieved you understand it probably.
Again, of course, you can add virtual hosts as for your demand. You are owner of bbspink.com. Please relax. And I make only a technical matter the present topic... I am only a technical helper.
>>483 Thank you for your help. I think sometimes that when we try to think in two languages at the same time the words don't come out right. ども ありがとう むむむーさん I always am happy and appreciate your help.
I collect the result of the discussion as follows:
1) I (= Jim-san) don't want to reduce the number of servers in the appearance. 2) So, I want to set four names and IP addresses totally. 3) I know their names are different from pie, sakura01, sakura02 and sakura03.
寝たら負け組み can you write these in hiragana then I can pronounce them and write them in the future. 寝 負 組 I like this saying. We have a similar one. "There is time to sleep when you die."
I updated my diary with my new slang http://jimsan.asks.jp/8355.html >>505 ジム ＝ 自夢 ジム ＝ gym 自夢 is my name..:) I will stay awake longer. Jim went to the gym today.
>>537 powered byYahoo! 翻訳 I intended to be the name of the man-made satellite, but did not know 2 of the one of the Mercury. I go for work, but Jim tries work hard from now on, too and! !
>>537 I intended to be the name of the man-made satellite, but did not know 2 of the one of the Mercury. I go for work, but Jim tries work hard from now on, too and! !
>>546 This is still the Year of the Pig. We need something to remember that. My suggestion is set Set is the Ancient Egyptian pig god. Sometimes he was a crocodile though..;)
>>550 I like myths. They are a lot of fun. I read one from Japan, it was a long time ago and I don't remember the story well, but it was about a raccoon. He was a naughty guy and slept with a lot of girls.....;) I need to sleep. Good night.
>>549 Hello Jim-san. I have worked at the Transulation thread for these past 1 month and put a trip on myself today. I am looking forward to working for you and BBSPINK in the upcoming year.
You don't have to worry about the language. I really respect your diligence :D
By the way, please count on us, translators more until you get Japanese under your belt. It looks like there are some comunication gaps becouse of machine translation's imperfection. Yeah, I don't write English very well as you see, but there are a lot of volunteers. We'll be able to write better English with our teamwork.
>>552 Although your contribution would be appreciated, I don't favor your proposal. I hope Jim enjoys talking with various guys as he likes, possibly for his Japanese lesson sometimes. BBSPINK citizens also are allowed to talk with Jim here by themselves, even in poor English. Anyhow, Jim can do it in his comfortable way. This is Jim's thread in Jim's board.
>>555 I respect your opinion, but there appears to be a under misunderstanding. I don't intend to(wouldn't like to neither) take away your voice. just would like to be a superior translator than machines. Don't forget comunication gaps caused previous crisis. We should eliminate the threat posed by that as much as possible
>>554 When I was a kid, in the summer we would get to sleep outside on clear nights and you could see all the stars. High in the sky moving around you could even see the man made satellites. Sputnik was cool sounding to me then. My friends and I all imagined we were seeing sputnik. Maybe we were.
>>555 Does it say something different in Japanese? I think he just wants to translate some things and paste it to the translation thread. I don't mind that at all...:)
Jim-san, I tried cooking an apple pie the way that you showed the recipe to us in the other thread. It's surface is crispy and taste good. おしえてくれて ありがとう ございました thank you for showing us how to cook it. In japan, there is the apple for cooking named "Kougyoku". 紅玉（こうぎょく） when it eat raw the apple is too sour and not crunchy (too soft). But if it is cooked, it becomes just good sour.
A request was in Jim hello, the present days and came to this thread to do a reply. In fact, do not understand that the request says whether it may be said that is a request, but is inspection in http://life9.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/intro/1200058678/ once; if is done, and give you a reply if is in convenient time, is honored
>>569Jim-san こんばんは （I'm >>556,>>565,>>567 です。） I was watching "MythBusters". I like this program because there are destructions, explosions and Kariのおっぱい. Kariのおっぱい最高(さいこうsai kou)です(*´Д｀)ﾊｧﾊｧ And I like "Forensic Factor", "Most Evil" and "Future Weapons " too.
I think American programs are different from Japanese those. (Japanese Discovery ch has aired the old programs probably.)
こうもん koumonn 黄門 This is very famous vice-president's name aka Mito-mitsukuni. 水戸 光国 みと みつくに His adventure's drama named "Mito-Koumon" has aired long time in Japan. 水戸 黄門（みと こうもん）
かぐや kaguya うらしま urashima These are characters of Japanese(Chinese?) old story "Urashima-tarou". 浦島 太郎 うらしま たろう
mmm...Futon(布団：ふとん) means usually about a bed. Futon can also distinguish between shiki-buton(敷き布団：しきぶとん) and kake-buton（掛け布団:かけぶとん）.
Kake-buton means usually about a quilt or bed colothes, which put over someone. Shiki-buton is a kind of mattress under the body. In Japanese style of bed(such as http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F:Stage_of_Japanese_pillow_fight.jpg), a shiki-buton is put on the tatami (or sometimes another mattress put between tatami and shiki-buton in order to make more comftable). Japanese Onsen Ryokan (Japanese style of Hotel) uses such style.
>>588-590 That is very cool. We use the same word in English for a bed. Usually a futon is a sofa that turns into a bed. I know tatami, it is nice to sit and drink osake on the tatami.
>>592 はい ほんとに です I take off my shoes in my apartment. It is a real relief to take them off. Most Americans do not take their shoes off until they go to bed at night. They are missing out on letting their feet relax.
Jim-sanこんばんは。 すてきなサイトをみつけました。 Ｉ found a great website. http://ohpai.com/ Oppai maker ・write your name in the center box. ・push below bottan. (It is ) ・Your boobs will be created.
phase 2 status Right now, David, Tom, Brian and Robert are discussing the configuration of the Force 10. During phase 1, the Force 10 configuration did not work. We had the configuration verified by Force 10, and there was a line missing. That line was not in the manual. The line is added now. It still doesn't work, so discussion is being done on what to try next. In a conference call with Force 10. すこし まって ください, it will be good.
This is Mumumu., Why you login and change password of tiger2514? I cannot login it now!
Tiger2514 is 2ch's server, and I was tuning it up with OS upgrading. However, the work was still on the way, so, httpd is now intentionally down by me.
Certainly, we moved all old contents to banana3000 and its all done. But we will still use tiger2514 for 2ch's other things, and now I am working in progress.
So, you did two mistakes. This is the same as what you made tiger509 and tiger510 in May, 2003.
1) You logged in to customer's(2ch's) server without any prior notices. 2) And you chaned the password.
Please set a password again immediately. And please do not login the customer's(2ch's) server again. This is a problem of the trust between you and 2ch. Please understand this.
>>618 There is no mistake. Our employees have orders to get httpd back up asap. The customer needs to fill out a ticket and say they are doing work like that. The only way they can get into machine is to change the password. I posted immediately when they did that on the pinknanmin board. PIE guys followed orders strictly and correctly. I will put the password in your email now.
Mumumu-san Here is what happens at http://www.pie.us when a server or service goes down. 1. Pie's noc staff is notified by our monitoring software. None of our staff know what is on a server or what a client is doing unless that client informs them. 2. The staff attempts to access the machine by ssh if that is not possible they attempt a reboot. 3. If machine does not come up after a reboot then a console is connected to the machine, to find out the error. 4. Unless we have prior orders from the client, the staff is under orders to get the machine to command prompt and httpd back up. 5. If the password for the machine is not on file, then they will reset the password and find the solution.
After those steps, our senior noc tech found that you had commented out httpd. That is why I posted about it. He knew it was a 2ch machine and very important to get back up. He did not know you were working on it.
>>631 hehehehe, and I spelled hair wrong. Accidently I spelled hear. Sorry guys I got really drunk at a meeting. I will answer these posts after a nap.
Dear Jim. I'm Japanese OCN user. I taked route to "maido3.com" by command 'traceroute qb5.2ch.net'. The route to them is "ge-6-6.r04.plalca01.us.ce.gin.ntt.net" lasted. In today's your jobs, the route lasted "PacificInternetExchange.demarc.cogentco.com" when the new router loaded, I see (I thinked.).
which is right the route from OCN in Japan ? ･ge-6-6.r04.plalca01.us.ce.gin.ntt.net ･PacificInternetExchange.demarc.cogentco.com
>>635 Actually you can do a trace back to OCN if you want from PIE. we have a network page with a traceroute built in. http://www.pie.us/?page=network I put in www.ocn.ne.jp It seems to work just fine.
>>606 Robert ｷﾀﾜｧ*･゜ﾟ･*:.｡..｡.:*･゜(n‘∀‘)ηﾟ･*:.｡. .｡.:*･゜ﾟ･* !!!!! Thank you, Jim-san !! I think Robert is かっこういい ...... David's head too. もちろん :-) :-) :-)
>>644 ははははははははは Well, this is an erotic board. I guess I could do that, but I don't know where there is....;) I meant this though, いただきます >>645 Yes to much fun, already someone wants me to go there and make love....:) You are the "apple of my eye".
I was thinking more simply like in the Stevie Wonder song You are the sunshine. "You are the apple of my eye, Forever you'll stay in my heart" Enjoy your futon, I hope it is warm.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Love is ♥ ♥ove is ♥ ♥ Love is 愛 ♥ove is 愛 ♥ ♥ove is 愛 Love is 愛 l.♥ ♥ is 愛 Love is 愛 L.♥ ♥ 愛 Love is 愛 Lo.♥ ♥ Love is 愛 Lov♥ ♥ e is 愛 Lov♥ ♥ 愛 Lov♥ . ♥ Lo.♥ ♥
>>663 りんごーさん why don't you make a nice apple blog? I hope that you are able to make the pie, I will probably make it again soon. My son is visiting from China today and he probably misses my pie.
>>667 > My son is visiting from China today. That's wonderful. Does Jim-san's son live in China? おかえりなさい I envy him for being able to eat your apple pie.
My tentative plan for visiting Japan is 21 February to 25 February Osaka > Hokkaido > Tokyo > Beijing on the 25th. Leaving Hong Kong on the 29th or 30th.
Does anyone use http://baidu.jp/ It seems superior to google in many ways. I want to know the feeling users have for it, because right now we are blocking their spider, which is just a little aggressive, but after we have upgraded our servers I would like to unblock it, because I think it is very important to get PINKちゃんねる inside their resource.
Formerly, 2ch blocked Baiduspider, but now 2ch does not block it.
And .htaccess of all BBS servers of bbspink is now shared with 2ch by 2ch's blocking system, so, I believe that both 2ch and bbspink do not block any accesses from Baiduspider.
May I ask a favor? Regarding the issue some requests to delete a bbspink content are still posted to 2-channel instead of bbspink, I'd like to ask you not to provide links to 2-channel contents; "Read me before posting" 書き込む前に読んでね "2 Channel guidance" ２ちゃんねるガイド "FAQ" "Board List" 掲示板一覧 in the top page of bbspink. And you are requested to prepare bbspink original contents asap. The people who are not familiar with bbspink post a delete-request to 2-channel by using the current link above. I feel sorry for the late request, but we didn't pick up on this up to now.
In passing, I'd like to recommend you to improve other links such a way to resolve it by yourself bbspink, without 2-channel contents. e.g. the top page of http://qiufen.bbspink.com/soap/ - Beginners welcome thread guidance 初心者が安心して質問できるスレッドガイダンス - Q&A; board for beginners 初心者の質問板
Although I told you the other day that we have a plan to build "Setsumei-nin" framework, our continuous discussion has made us painfully aware of necessity of further knowledge on framework, workflow, each role of functions, principle and basic concept of 2-channel's posting control system. Consequently, we've held a study session and visit various 2-channel threads related to it, and then we will learn more about it and exchange views on it with each other. It's important for bbspink to have deep understanding on the posting control to use it under cooperation with 2-channel. We'd like to keep you in the loop.
>>687 I have already read that by machine translation and was ignoring it. The internet was built on link exchanges and those are exactly link exchanges. They are convenient for our users and should stay or be updated to more current links if they become 404. Only someone with a hidden agenda would notice that anyway. So I was just not noticing that post.
>>697 I'm not one of the people doing this project, but I think what ◆EROyVmNwwM. is trying to say that they want you keeping up with their project. After all you're the administrator of bbspink, in order to do any kind of project, we need your permission to do something.
Anyway, do you understand what they are trying to do?
>>702 Yes please take your time, and if you can let me know what it is. I will be happy, because what if it is something I don't agree with? I would be sad if people wasted their time doing something that was important but not agreeable.
Project objective : To make "Setsumei-nin" (People who explains; Explainer) Since bbspink is using 2ch's posting control system, we (bbspink users) should cooperate in order to make the system work better. "Setsumei-nin" will take the work to give and take information both ways, which we think it will be a good start for cooperation.
Background: 1. Because of 2ch's posting control, people in bbspink got caught, which lead to making complains to 2ch's operators. 2. At the same time, people in bbspink didn't have a strong opinion in using 2ch's system, and some people start thinking it was annoying. 3. Then the trouble suddlenly occured last year, which made us think more about taking communication and cooperating.
What "Setsumei-nin" does: "Setsumei-nin" will explain to people who get in trouble because of the 2ch's posting control system. Before people goes to 2ch operator, "Setsumei-nin" will give sources and lead them to place where they can talk how the problem can be improved.
This is just only a draft, and we are planning to finish it up by studying about 2ch's system at the same time. But since this activaty will also be held outside of bbspink (in 2ch), we need to be careful there are no mistakes, therefore we need Jim-san's knowledge and cooperation.
>>704-705 Thank you for taking the trouble and condensing that for me. Cooperation is important, and I am afraid some new people will decide something without realizing the original purpose of things. Everything that was made in the past had a purpose, and if it is changed something will change. There is always a result from change. Sometimes that is a good result and sometimes that is bad result, but I can guarantee that there is a result from change.
>>708 np:) >I am afraid some new people will decide something without realizing the original purpose of things. So you're not really agreeable with making "Setsumei-nin"?
The purpose of the project is "to avoid collision with 2ch's operators". But not every bbspink users will take communication with 2ch, so we need to have some bbspink users that will have information about 2ch's posting control in order to explain the normal bbspink users. this will prevent the normal bbspink users to go and complain to 2ch"s operators.
If we had this kind of "Setsumei-nin" last year, we could have avoided that happening.
>>713 Wouldn't it be easier for 2ch operators to put an explanation on their reporting page that bbspink reports should be made to bbspink, and link that to housekeeping or deleter? I think they may already have done that. Other than that, irate users will not follow the rules anyway. They will report, and accuse anywhere possible because they are not thinking logically at that time but only with their emotions.
Hmm... since i dont know much about the system right now, i cant comment you, but i am sure that ◆EROyVmNwwM can. But he said that he'll sleep tonight, so I think he'll come tomorrow.
I'll just leave a japanese translation here.
>irate users will not follow the rules anyway. very true...
>>718 was that only an "accident"? I'm not sure the problem around there, but while i was reading the thread, it is written as "bad/miss-communication"
>>724 Kt So is an American Cam Gal. She is definately my cup of tea. I can't stop watching her video. She hypnotizes me....:) http://www.kt-so.com/ You can see her pictures there.
I LIKE BE!
726 ：
Jim
◆6P7QkQf8Ys
： 2008/01/20 (土) 17:37:46
ID:
mW+I0fpc
Be is great, be is good. Be is fun and I enjoy getting points
I got an answer about 714. Reporters are only an stand-alone person, not a person from 2ch or bbspink. It is your job to say "bbspink reports should be made to bbspink, and link that to housekeeping or deleter" .
I gtg soon, but I will check here and the other threads tomorrow.
I have at least 4 Gigs of Kt So video, but none of it is porn or adult. Does anyone have adult video of Kt? Probably it does not exist. I think she is with all probability a virgin and not ready to make the step into the adult industry.
119 名前：名無し編集部員 投稿日：2008/01/21(月) 02:37:48 ID:8gYUJ5rg >>111 OK, Jim. Thanks. So concerning dating issue, the local rules comply with Japanese law. Now we are discussing on BE's capability of dating. Of course we know Be is originally not for dating, but it can provide measures for dating. That's why we are concerned that Japanese police could assume bbspink with BE is a dating site. We have an analogical case in Japan. A famous P2P software Winny was judged as guilty on content copyright infringement, although the original development purpose was not for exchange copyright music/video contents.
>>734 Winny is not the same situation. It is not a direct correlation. The police will always assume the worst, they are hard wired that way. Be is not for dating, also the telephone book is not for dating and the library is not for dating. Can anyone think of anything else that is not for dating?
If we were sharing Kt So's video with P2P software that was built by bbspink users and not paying Kt her royalty or did not have her permission that might be a similar situation, but we are not doing that and not even discussing something similar to that.
>>735 >>736 Even e-mail and telephone are not for dating, but there is a total ban on it as a measure for dating. And I mean with the Winny case that the rationale of their judgement is not "for doing it" but "can do it". In any case, it's up to you, Jim. All who were discussing in that thread are just concerned on your and bbspink's legal risk.
>>692 Jim-san, You seem to have some misunderstanding on >>687, so let me make some comment.
That's a request from the leader of 2-channel deleters 削ジェンヌ, not a troll. She says it's inconvenient for bbspink users and 2-channel deleters to keep the current links. Because due to the links, some bbspink users make a delete-request of a bbspink content to 2-channel instead of bbspink. So she called on bbspink to create bbspink's own information pages and switch the links to them.
>>750 Yes, the original meaning of 丈夫（じょうぶ） is "a whole man" or "husband" even in Japanese. 大丈夫 ＝ 大 ＋ 丈夫 Derived from the original meaning, we have three meanings of 大丈夫; 1. a big, truly wonderful man 2. OK or no problem 3. surely
>>756 I need to make few small changes. I am doing that now. In principle it looks very good though. Give me just a little while, and I will post my changes.
３．The PINK channel uses a similar system as 2 channel and the system operation responsibility of the site is not held by the administrator of 2 channel but by Jim in the USA.
Pink Channel method and architecture is similar to 2 channel and evolved using the access restrictions given freely from 2 channel. Some access restriction methods and architecture are freely given by 2 channel and 2 channel's administrator. This does not infringe on 2 channel intellectual property rights. The 2 channel is not responsible for the contents posted on the BBS within the Pink channel. Access restrictions will naturally involve tasks that require us to go into the PINK channel server, but such tasks are not related to liability for the contents posted on the BBS. All accountability is held by the administrative operation team of the PINK channel and the PINK channel users. In addition, neither the administrators of 2 channel nor the 2 channel server host are associated or aware of the specific contents of the operation regarding access restriction at the PINK channel, and are not legally accountable in Japan, the USA, or via any other international treaties. Access restrictions will naturally involve tasks that require us to go into the PINK channel server, but such tasks are not related to liability for the contents posted on the BBS. All accountability is held by the administrative operation team of the PINK channel and the PINK channel users. In addition, neither the administrators of 2 channel nor the 2 channel server host are associated or aware of the specific contents of the operation regarding access restriction at the PINK channel, and are not legally accountable in Japan, the USA, or via any other international treaties.
Pink Channel method and architecture is similar to 2 channel and evolved using the access restrictions given freely from 2 channel. Some access restriction methods and architecture are freely given by 2 channel and 2 channel's administrator. This does not infringe on 2 channel intellectual property rights. The 2 channel is not responsible for the contents posted on the BBS within the Pink channel.
Small changes in heading of 3. same > similar Strike sentence 1 add Pink Channel method and architecture is similar to 2 channel and evolved using the access restrictions given freely from 2 channel.
Strike sentence 2 add Some access restriction methods and architecture are freely given by 2 channel and 2 channel's administrator. This does not infringe on 2 channel intellectual property rights.
Strike sentence 3 add The 2 channel is not responsible for the contents posted on the BBS within the Pink channel. sentence 4 change spelling from sever to server
３a．Jim has the right to block access from an external site if the site is trying to access .dat files on the PINK channel servers and does not have a link to http://www.bbspink.com/ and does not clearly state the website name, "PINK channel," on every page of the site that accesses content from Pink channel.
add is add s to pluralize server strike .dat files add content add and strike add that accesses content from Pink channel
>>756 Make these >>758 small changes to the wiki and then I will print and add my personal information to the bottom of it, and scan and upload it for any volunteer that needs it.
３a．Jim has the right to block access from an external site if the site is trying to access content on the PINK channel servers and does not have a link to http://www.bbspink.com/ and does not clearly state the website name, "PINK channel," on every page of the site that accesses content from Pink channel.
Yes, please make 3. and 3a just like this. Then it will be good. ..................................................................
３．The PINK channel uses a similar system as 2 channel and the system operation responsibility of the site is not held by the administrator of 2 channel but by Jim in the USA.
Pink Channel method and architecture is similar to 2 channel and evolved using the access restrictions given freely from 2 channel. Some access restriction methods and architecture are freely given by 2 channel and 2 channel's administrator. This does not infringe on 2 channel intellectual property rights. The 2 channel is not responsible for the contents posted on the BBS within the Pink channel. Access restrictions will naturally involve tasks that require us to go into the PINK channel server, but such tasks are not related to liability for the contents posted on the BBS. All accountability is held by the administrative operation team of the PINK channel and the PINK channel users. In addition, neither the administrators of 2 channel nor the 2 channel server host are associated or aware of the specific contents of the operation regarding access restriction at the PINK channel, and are not legally accountable in Japan, the USA, or via any other international treaties. Access restrictions will naturally involve tasks that require us to go into the PINK channel server, but such tasks are not related to liability for the contents posted on the BBS. All accountability is held by the administrative operation team of the PINK channel and the PINK channel users. In addition, neither the administrators of 2 channel nor the 2 channel server host are associated or aware of the specific contents of the operation regarding access restriction at the PINK channel, and are not legally accountable in Japan, the USA, or via any other international treaties.
３a．Jim has the right to block access from an external site if the site is trying to access content on the PINK channel servers and does not have a link to http://www.bbspink.com/ and does not clearly state the website name, "PINK channel," on every page of the site that accesses content from Pink channel.
３．The PINK channel uses a similar system as 2 channel and the system operation responsibility of the site is not held by the administrator of 2 channel but by Jim in the USA.
Pink Channel method and architecture is similar to 2 channel and evolved using the access restrictions given freely from 2 channel. Some access restriction methods and architecture are freely given by 2 channel and 2 channel's administrator. This does not infringe on 2 channel intellectual property rights. The 2 channel is not responsible for the contents posted on the BBS within the Pink channel. Access restrictions will naturally involve tasks that require us to go into the PINK channel server, but such tasks are not related to liability for the contents posted on the BBS. All accountability is held by the administrative operation team of the PINK channel and the PINK channel users. In addition, neither the administrators of 2 channel nor the 2 channel server host are associated or aware of the specific contents of the operation regarding access restriction at the PINK channel, and are not legally accountable in Japan, the USA, or via any other international treaties.
>>672-673 Does Jim-san come to Tokyo? I live in Tokyo. Yesterday's forecast said Tokyo might get snow, but it didn't. Chiba prefecture (near Tokyo) snowed. でも 東京も とても 寒い（さむい : samui）です。 enjoy your trip （ ＾ω＾）
>>ringo-san, you have to add .mp3 files from your computer. You can add these by bluetooth, or by usb. You make it dance by double clicking the button when the song starts. You can program the dance with the motion software. I can not program the dance, because the evil company that made the software only lets it be installed on Japanese computers, not english computers with Japanese fonts. Please put some .mp3 and program it to dance, then upload it so I can see the video. Or.... You could sing to it....:)
I have signed and uploaded the site policy here. http://www.bbspink.com/sitepolicy.JPG There is a link from the front page to it as well. Japanese version will follow later, it has to be retranslated.
and Jimさん、 降り（ふり）- furi - fall infinitive : 降る（ふる furu）
"雪(snow)" doesn't be used as a verb in 日本語. (It is only a noun.) So 雪 is used with "降る(furu - fall)" 雪 が 降る。 - furu - it snows. 雪 が 降り ました。 - furi mashita - it was snow. 雪 が 降って います。 - futte imasu - it is snowing.
>>796 The males possess a large baculum (penis bone), up to 63 cm (24 in) in length, the largest of any mammal both absolutely and relative to body size. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walrus The walrus has the biggest penis in the world. bigdick might upset some people. Walruses are cute and look so friendly. What is the name of walrus in Japanese? walrus = ? Also there is a very nice song by the Beatles written by John Lennon. http://www.dmbeatles.com/song.php?song=104
I think that walrus is big and proud and would be a good name for our kakolog server. Maybe it is better in Japanese, I am not sure though, so please give me the Japanese name too.
>>798 Which sounds better to Japanese people. I think the lr sound might be very difficult for Japanese. It is not a natural sound for them. seiuchi sounds erotic to me. sei = sex uchi = inside hehehehe. I like that very much. seiuchi.bbspink.com how does that sound? We would have a large proud mammal with a big dick and a subliminally sexy name in Japanese.
however there is one famous stand-up comedy group which name is 'Neptune'. one of the member coused a sort or sexual trouble before, so at least i personaly do not have a good impression of this name. and i guess probably some japanese don;t either.
Hi Jim, this is Sam from Polywell. If you need any help at all getting your new NAS online. Please let me know right away. My factory is here to support you and it is our duty to make sure our customers are supported well.
> it is hardly used except for the word of foreign origin.
But in 2ch, it is frequently used, so, 2ch slang is more colloquial.
For example, こっそり(kossori) in Japanese, it means "in secret". But in 2ch, sometimes be used ｺｿｰﾘ(koso-ri). In 2ch, half-width katakana with prolonged sound mark are preferred.
>>828 To many things use Yomi, and it is just a mythical place. Don't sweat it, it also has some very good meanings, even if you use the original meaning of that word. Things can dwell there forever. I hope to be able to keep the words on bbspink online forever. 2 Things are certain, death and taxes. So we will all die, but our words will live on.
>>827 her name 暦. KOYOMI means Calendar. For example,Qiufen,Chunfen,Xiazhi,Dongzhi. If it's now,Lichun the first day of the spring. Japanese has the custom which throws soybeans to the fictitious demon and refuses malice on this previous day. That's called 'Setsubun'or'Mamemaki'
>>829 A man who has that was going to call the son 'devil', and it was rejected, and it had been blamed all Japan. The same unpleasant feeling as that case is felt for you.
>>830 Wow, that is very interesting. Mamemaki sounds very good to me. Are you sure the demon is fictitious? lets name the next server mamemaki and maybe we will escape from malice.
ぁぁぁぁぁ Hi. It seems that since I talked about BE, people have stopped talking to me. I really like BE, and want to use it on bbspink.com. It is good and useful and so very cool. It should NOT be used for dating. It is not designed for that. It is bad that we are even discussing that I think because it is just giving people strange ideas. It is very useful for using points, and those points are so useful for playing games, and searching and paying things online.
やあ。 Some cowardly people fear intervention of the Japanese police. And most people do not know BE. The way things are going, the opinion of a little coward will become the majority. Jim, Please persuade a little coward for the Japanese police not to be a threat! And let's tell the wonderfulness of BE together!
>>859 I do not think there is anything illegal about BE. It really is wonderful. There are to many other ways for people to date online. Much easier ways. I would say it is probably very difficult to do so with BE. So why don't you list the good points of BE for me here.
Has yourfilehost became a new Japanese word? I see so many threads that begin with yourfilehost. Don't you think we could be a little more original? http://find.2ch.net/?STR=yourfilehost
Jimさん こんばんは。 It snowed in Tokyo today again. cold. too cold... By the way, I heard that China had severe snow and rain. I hope your son and friends got home safely.
media: Ethernet 100baseTX <full-duplex> status: active By the way, have you ever wondered why American anus looks so shiny and clean? This is how they teach us to clean our anus, and now there is an exciting new product you can use to bleach your anus. http://blog.bbspink.com/permalink.php/jim-san/diary/080206110927
I would like to tell you about a matter which delete request in BBSPINK still submit to 2-channel. On the top of the BBS, please use the PINKBBS version's 『書き込む前に読んで(Please read before a entry)』 『２ちゃんねるガイド(A guide of 2-channel)』 『FAQ』 『掲示板一覧 (a list of BBS)』 . People who usually do not use PINK BBS, use the links there, and they submit the request to the delete request-board on 2-channel. So please change above fact as soon as possible. I am apologies that I make contact with you late.
In passing let me say that, I think, for example, the links of ●初心者が安心して質問できるスレッドガイダンス (the thread guidance for the beginner to ask question in peace of mind ) ●初心者の質問板 (the question thread for the guidance ). on the top of the board, http://qiufen.bbspink.com/soap/, should be changed by Pink BBS.
＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿
This is my translation. I hope that you understand it><.
○I would like to tell you about a matter which delete request in BBSPINK still submit to 2-channel. ×I would like to tell you about a matter which delete requests in BBSPINK are still submitted to 2-channel.
×I would like to tell you about a matter which delete request in BBSPINK still submit to 2-channel. ○I would like to tell you about a matter which delete requests in BBSPINK are still submitted to 2-channel.
>>904 Thank you for your post. I appreciate your comment. >>931 There is a solution being worked on. まつ しかない、あめ ふってじ かたまる。 ども ありがとう ひろゆき ★ーさま 乙です ７９−さん
If you are going to go to a private hotel room with a prostitute. You should watch your wallet. Girls are evil, and prostitutes are generally basic girl units. Do you leave your wallet on the table? Of course your money will be gone after you take a shower. I don't even think it is stealing. I think you were just very stupid not to watch your wallet. Is this slander if someone writes about it? I am not sure, and need to think on that, but I do know this. It shows how very stupid the customer was to have his money stolen.
>>965 According to procedure, the deletion request of this is carried out formally. However, 79 does not delete and not explain the reason which is not deleted. The person who wrote in is unknown and there is no proof of the fact. This is clear slander and will bring her disadvantageous profit. This should conflict with a deletion guideline clearly. Why doesn't 79 delete this? It is the reason that I want to know. If allowed to say honestly, 79's Japanese is more unclear than English of Jim.
>>966 I agree with the opinion of Jim. But it is not related. It is a problem that the girl is slandered.
>>967 I think this is more like a bad review like a restaurant. If it is deleted then that thread becomes useless. If you have a restaurant, and someone gives you a bad review, then you just need to work harder to get a good review.
Most jurisdictions also recognize "per se" defamation, where the allegations are presumed to cause damage to the plaintiff. Typically, the following may consititute defamation per se:
Attacks on a person's professional character or standing; Allegations that an unmarried person is unchaste; Allegations that a person is infected with a sexually transmitted disease; Allegations that the person has committed a crime of moral turpitude;
>>977 It doesn't matter how well they are screened. Someone bad always gets through. However there are still less crimes among the marines, then among the general population of Okinawa.
