Good evening Frebe, always good to see you.
Big thanks for the class thread, the amazing dough and for keeping it all organized so well.
Appreciate ya.
How's things? It's all going off in the big stream. High rally energy and Q as well. Epic.
WELCOME TO BAKING CLASS !
New bakers, thank you for stepping up to help the kitchen and for coming to the class. Respect.
Bakers, notetakers and anons, thank you also for coming. Your experience and input makes the class and really helps those up and coming.
The class is informal and relaxed. Feel free to ask questions, shout out if or when you're stuck / need some help and remember, there are no dumb questions, ever.
There's usually plenty of flour flying around so feel free to mess up. It's how we learn.
One of our bakers usually instructs (m'self today), while Freebaker facilitates the Q&A and discussions. Regular bakers are also usually in-thread (dropping in when they can), helping with the Q&As.
We are all here dedicating our time to teach you and pass on our knowledge to you, new bakers. We want to help you in whichever way we can. Please give us feedback and let us know how we can.
Thank you bakers, Freebaker and BO.
TONIGHT'S CLASS WILL COVER HANDOFFS & UNUSUAL SITUATIONS
We'll be going over handoff procedures, and having a discussion about 'unusual situations'.
If you'd like to learn how to bake, the Step x Step instructions with slides and videos are right at the top of the thread.
Let us know if you need any help along the way.
Enjoy the rally and class.
MAGAA>>27152
No kidding that's a long day, especially when the g's are after you as well. Kudos muh man. You're preddy awesome.
Great to hear and comp issues fixed? Glorious.
Guess that's a relief. Welcome back.
Thanks for the good vibes and sending them right back atcha.
Original bakin' image I used. Pimped by Nord as a gift. Haven't used it in a long time. For the vibes yo.
Hey Carp, good to see you. Hows things and how's the baking practice going? We're going to do Handoffs and 'unusual situations' tonight. Idea courtesy of Frebe.
Ah. That's awesome. Love it.
Okay. We'll take it slow.
Sure. It's still up here >>25718 if you'd like to read through it sometime. If you have, any questions feel free to ask.
We covered Q bakes. There are some slides you could save if you wanted to.
Welcome exelfag, thanks for coming. It's good to see you. Have you baked before or interested in learning?
Strange Situations In Baking
As a new baker you may be worried about unusual situations coming up while you're baking.
We thought to ask you about any unsual situations you may think about and worry may happen.
Maybe you've seen something happen and think about how you'd handle it?
It's highly possible that the bakers (old and new) have come across it and if so, would be happy to give advice and/or talk it over.
And so we ask -
New bakers - which unusual situations have you see, you percieve, or worry could happen when baking?
Bakers - do you have any memorable unusual situations which have happened while you baked?
Any more common unusual situations that you know how to get around now?
Care to share them?
Looking forward to hearing from you all on this subject. Thanks for Frebe for the idea and suggestion.
Hopefully it'll be an enlighening discussion and we'll all learn from each other as always.
I'll leave this to develop in converstaion and now go on to covering Handoffs, procedures and the handoff sequence.
Will take it slowly so we can enjoy the rally.
Habby to hear that anon. Keep going and any questions at all, feel free to ask in here any time. We're all here to help and the baker's give excellent tips and advice.
Okay carp, here's where the Q bakes slides started last class >>25899
Maybe make a note of any Qs you have re last week's and this, and you can ask any week.
BAKING TIPS
HANDOFF COMMS - THE 4 STEP SEQUENCE
Based on military call and response
There are 4 steps to a handoff.
Unless all 4 steps are made there is a very high chance of confusion.
To prevent mix ups, it's highly advised not to handoff or start baking until the 4 steps are complete.
The first and second steps are REQUEST and OFFER comms: A request from the current baker and an offer from the new baker.
The second and third steps cover CONFIRMATIONS: One from the current baker and one from the new baker.
Let's take a look at the steps.
The handoff sequence is as follows -
Missing links? Yes.
Maybe the other bakers can weigh in on how they handle this.
Here's how I do.
Go to the bread and use ctrl F and search for the part post number you have. Try to find the post that way.
If you can't, use some keywords from the notable discription.
Between the two of these you can usually find them super fast.
Failing that, and /or if you've no time, make a big headline post in the current thread and ask if someone can go back and find them.
If they can't find them, I would just leave as is, if they're someone elses notes.
Does that help?
REQUEST AND OFFER
SEQUENCE STEP 1
Current baker requests a relief baker early and clearly with -
Baker Requests HandoffOr similar
This is best done in the 'DOUGH' post as most available bakers check this one for handoff requests.
G'night Carp, catch ya.
SEQUENCE STEP 2
New baker offers to bake clearly in reply with -
Baker here - confirm handoff?Or similar
If the current baker doesn't know who you are, you may want to post a verification paste for them, so they know.
A verification paste is a paste from your pastebin or anonbin - the one which has your previous bakes in it.
It can be blank or have some text, as you wish, but the main point is that it was created by you by logging into your paste or anonbin.
New Bakers
If you don't have a baking history, tell the baker and if possible he'll stay with you while you bake the first time/s.
If you're just starting to bake, if the bakers know (in the stream, comms Meta Kitchen or the baking class), they'll offer to help you get your first bakes logged, maybe at a more convenient time.
Sometimes the baker has to leave and can't spot a new baker, or the bread is too busy for a new baker to take first time.
Quiet shifts are better when starting out.
Make sure all 4 steps are made
Ifall four stepshave not been completed, ask again for confirmation.
Don't bake until you have clear handoff confirmation or it's an emergency.
Basically this is a redundancy syetem to make sure the current baker =and== the relief baker both confirm the handoff.
This way there is zero chance for confusion.
The language is less important than the idea that it's CLEAR, there is a call, a response then confirmation from both parties.
Watching Bakers Handoff
If you watch the bakers handoff to each other you'll see them use this sequence.
It may be as above and it may be a lot more casual (common between bakers who handoff to the same baker each day).
Even when casual comms are used you will still see the 4 steps as above:
'''Request =Offer => Confirm => Confirm'''
Handoff History
A few years ago when baking instructions were being made, they were posted in the general over a couple of weeks for everyone to be involved in their contents.
A military fag told us that basically bakers were following military comms procedures of call and response to avoid confusion, and ensure confirmation from both parties.
The instructions created then refered to the sequence as 'Call and Response', as in military comms.
This is where it evolved from.
When You Can't Find A Relief Baker
If you're having trouble finding a new baker, try a shout -
=BAKER MUST LEAVE=
updated dough pastebin.xxxxxxxxx
=SOMEBODY STEP UP=
In the event you have to leave and don't have a relief baker, leave a clear post saying you're leaving, that there's no baker on duty and request that someone bakes the next thread.
Ask anons to help by reminding everyone they need a baker.
Try to give as much notice that you're leaving soon. You can add a post number marker -
Baker leaving at 100. Someone step up
Then you can post your leaving post at 100 knowing you did your best to find a relief.
Wrap Up And Question Time On Handoff Procedures
New bakers, is that clear? Are there any points you're unclear on?
Any questions in general on handoff procedures?
Bakers, do you think these are clear guidelines, and/or do you have any points / tips to add?
Really good points. Important.
Never filter here
Yeah. Some anons encourage filtering.
Some post scripts so you can filter certain words.
It's up to everyone what they do.
Q said 'no filters' so that's good for me.
As a baker I think it's important to see everything that's going on in a thread.
When not baking I'm the same.
Up to you though.
Yeah. I've seen some anons filter the baker by mistake because there was something in the dough that triggered the filter script they'd set.
The board could be under attack or something major habbening and you possibly wouldn't know.
I saw it earlier and grabbed it.
Archive of the original camo thread
https://archive.is/hogSX
Yes, remember when he did that.
And yes, if you've got a thread on QR you've gotta remember to bump it every other day. Just incase.
Basic training - idk, what do you think?
The bakers we have learning at the moment have done that, so maybe baking tips?
If you think basic though we can easily do it.
Thanks a lot Frebe.
Take it easy. Just wanted to say that sometimes it's best ignore some stuff. Let it play out.
Takes a lot of energy and who knows for what.
Love ya, no homo.
Sleep well.
Captain
Good. The work you all did was incredible and in such a short time.
Anons need the guidance I think (I know I do).
I think it would benefit the whole movement if you carried on working together and sharing the info.
Just offered to take the handoff
Gonna say adios amigos for tonight.
Thank you all for coming and supporting the class.
You all rawk.
Keep in touch exelanon. We're here every Thursday. I'm also on meta and discussion on QRMemes, adding camo material from you guys to that thread when I find it.
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