Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 21, 2020, 8:27 a.m. No.11189949   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0108

>>11187569

>There was a time where everyone looked high and low for bakers to keep the e bakes at bay now we have more bakes than we need and the show keeps going on.

>This is how you use every part of the buffalo

 

>This is how you use every part of the buffalo

 

Thank you, BO. Don't know how you feel about me, and I probably don't want to know anyway :)

 

But thank you for your service o7

 

-kekbees

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 21, 2020, 9:49 a.m. No.11190870   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0879 >>6008

>>11190832

 

your panels are just appeals to authority. None of them include me.

 

So yeah, you dragged me into your bullshit, and I will be able to respond to all of your innuendo about me.

 

Have a great day grieving and sperging over that.

 

>>11190848

 

You didn't like my opinions, so you dragged me into your drama with ZERO proof.

 

Keep posting.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 21, 2020, 2:42 p.m. No.11196355   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>6396 >>6454

>>11196008

 

You want me to post it to this thread... again?

 

okay

 

>>11115349 (this bread)

>>>/doughlist/138 (op)

 

13980 was a legit handoff.

my bakes were attacked.

I handed off tot he first baker who offered.

 

You've just now admitted to fucking around during that set of bakes.

 

The last time I baked was 10-04-2020. So you've been prosecuting bullshit.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 23, 2020, 11:01 a.m. No.11239284   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9367 >>9407

>>11238922

 

Why? I've already stated in their stream that I only want to lurk. Just like all of the other streams. AND I am still only in control of my own locked board only.

 

I merely poastd that cap to show you take things out of context, and has clipped that statement off to suit your own agenda.So you're just trying to stir some shit again.

 

Are you trying to say anons should not be everywhere? Because anons being everywhere meansโ€ฆ. Everywhere ;p

 

How the fuck else am I supposed to see for myself? you think I'm going to take your word for anything at all after what's gone on? kek!

 

Have a great day stirring your pot of shit :D

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 23, 2020, 3:58 p.m. No.11243670   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7116

Don't get suckered into wasting your time. Hardened anons should already know this shit; This is more a crash course for new visitors.

 

How to Quickly Spot a Clown

 

They will:

 

  • Attempt to get a divisive or emotional response from you to derail research.

  • Concern troll and copy/pasta spam shill to contradict confirmed findings.

  • Employ faux debate tactics: Generalizations, gas-lighting, projection, misdirection, false equivalences, confusing correlation with causation, appeal to authority, transference, false precepts, personal attacks, straw-men, red herrings, etc.

  • Promote social ethics that are disingenuous like doxxing, "reverse psychology", or promoting propaganda.

  • Promote tactics that are unethical, illegal or involve violence outside the scope of the Law.

  • Employ Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt to dissuade research.

 

Topic sliding If information of a sensitive nature has been posted on a discussion forum, it can be quickly removed from public view by topic sliding. In this technique a large number of unrelated posts, or posts aimed at diluting the information presented, are submitted in an effort to trigger a topic slide to literally push content out of view. Operators can control several fake UIDs via the bots they make use of; these can also be called upon in the other techniques to mask the intent of the operator from the users at large. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and bogus postings.

 

Seeding bad information Operatives will insert flawed or bogus information from time to time as an ongoing tactic, depending on their skill set and the needs of their mission. Their most common ruse is providing information or evidence which is backed by bad source material in the hope that the "source of the source" is never checked. This serves several objectives, mainly resource consumption, evidence pollution, discouragement and misdirection.

 

Astroturfing consensus This is a technique that attempts to build a manufactured consensus around a flawed set of statements or compromised information. This is related to consensus cracking, where false evidence is injected in an attempt to dispute or discredit what the current consensus is, and push it towards the desired false consensus. Misleading and false evidence and information are often salted into the evidence pool, with an aim to impede organic consensus building, while also poisoning the available information and evidence.

 

Cultivating tacit approval (The legal term for this is 'silent agreement') Attempting to attain this state is done using a technique where operators will try to convince the user population to ignore, or not respond to bad information or false assertions. This is done in a bid to reduce push-back against the above mentioned tactics. It's worth noting that the reply filtering mechanism of the boards (which currently can't be disabled without code changes from the site admin) is used as a weapon of sorts in this tactic: Filtering with software prevents anons from defending against seeding bad information and astroturfing consensus. This is why the operators push so hard to condition anons into filtering material they disagree with.

 

How to spot a Clown's bot

 

NEVER DIRECTLY ENGAGE A BOT It just wastes bread with their responses, and hands them a target to programmatically lock on to without handler interaction. It seems that the easiest way to foil the bots is to point them out by proxy, by copy/pasting the user's ID as a quoted reference and intentionally breaking its post link in your response and/or answering it with a meme until they start misfiring because they can't parse the response to lock onto a target correctly.. Doing this can also make the bots look artificially erratic and easier for other anons to spot.

 

What we know about the cl0wnbots

 

  • Are used to facilitate topic sliding, manufacturing consensus, obfuscation of intent, and general disruption

  • Require a handler to watch for and be in the thread

  • Cannot enter threads themselves

  • Respond to replies and each other, and can create replies

  • Can pick up random or contradictory meme flags

  • Activate on lists of trigger words; these can change over time

  • Use a combination of legit pasta, pre-written points, or spam targeted at various objectives.

  • Have unwittingly pasta'd supportive replies

  • Are employed mostly at night and on weekends (US time)

  • Add to bump limits

  • Can be filtered by ID once they are observed

  • Are not perfected and can be easily spotted

  • Were deployed starting on the /CBTS/ board

  • Have certain flaws that can cause them to misfire in sometimes comical ways

  • The handlers can make bogus clown threads, but also can be confused by accidental ones

  • Handlers still cannot access the servers

  • Have still not succeeded in their mission

  • Still can not meme

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 25, 2020, 9:33 a.m. No.11271739   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>11271338

 

I can only take a handoff in good conscience if I have the time to actually bake the entire bread. Anons have been left hanging like that too often.

 

As you can see here >>11265545, I will be offering relief going forwards, as time allows.

 

I appreciate your offers. o7

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 25, 2020, 9:44 a.m. No.11271869   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>2991 >>0038 >>1774

>>11271810

 

I'm sticking with my current system. I will be giving my bake history, and letting the baker outgoing baker decide.

 

Regardless of what the qr mod team does.

Because any baker that is afraid of their own history, is at the mercy of anons.

That's why tripcode are cool, and also why I WILL NOT ask the bo to turn them on; I founfd my own solution that works.

 

Full transparency.

 

It has ALWAYS been the baker's call as to who they give the dough to.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 25, 2020, 12:33 p.m. No.11274058   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>11272991

>This is the issue. I think we have all pretty much BTFO of the pastebin confirm closed loop shit.

 

This is a double edged sword too. I came up with my system because I will not get a bin account ;)

 

The only reason I deposited a tripcode on qbin was so nobody could pretend to be me.

 

I only verify with tripcodes.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 25, 2020, 7:56 p.m. No.11280388   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0487 >>0505 >>9498

>>11280038

 

I see your opinion, and here is my own.

 

(4) will happen, whether etiquette is followed by the bakers or not; imo, anons should nominate a new baker in the shit baker's own bread, to document it.

 

That last part is important. '''Going Johnny Rambo and just baking a fresh without consulting other anons, and documenting it is the problem.

 

This is why I do not see a problem with pic relates. The real problem isdocumenting it.

 

Shadilay o7

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 25, 2020, 8:03 p.m. No.11280465   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9498

>>11280038

as far as the terms of contract piece you're enumerating, I don't see a problem with it.

 

I've always either just handed off, or asked straight up for cred. No need for terms changes.

 

The only reason I started asking for cred in the first place is because I kept getting fucked on handoffs at 4-5 amโ€ฆ

 

And the baker always gets shit on for handing off to shills. So it's a lose-lose either way.

 

Last time I got fucked over like that, it was a skinny white cat lookin like it wanted to play cards or something.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 25, 2020, 8:10 p.m. No.11280545   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9498

>>11280482

 

this is subject to change, but as of now I don't see an easy solution because it seems liek half of the anons want to see a work history so they kjnow what they are getting, and the other half clearly doesn't give a shit, as long as there is bread.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 26, 2020, 10:35 a.m. No.11289670   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9692 >>9731

>>11289608

 

false. I started my record by being my own authority.

 

I got tired of burning screenshots to prove I had good bakes, so I started collecting them for use in building a 'chain of authorship

 

Just like Q. I did not get my authority from any baking council. I got it the og way, by baking on graavy and saving evidence of my bakes

 

Despite Pushback in the very place I went to ask for opinions. AS seen in this screenshot.

 

I thnked them anyway, the feedback given helped harden my system. Pic and link relates.

 

ANYONE can make their own baking record, it requires NO GRANT of permission to do, except talking to the platform owner.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 26, 2020, 10:47 a.m. No.11289809   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>11289731

 

AND, it is the baker's own chouice as to whether they choose to protect their ability to bake or not.

 

My system is for me. I do not care if anyone else choses to do it or not. The information is here, if they choose to make use of it.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 27, 2020, 11:35 a.m. No.11308480   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9425

>>11307695

 

You've harassed me for being in all the streams. You've affixed intentions to me without first taking my actions as a baker into account. You've never once shown me a shitty bake I've done, or a time where I tried to hide anything.

 

I've gone out of my way, to not hide.

 

Did you know that I insist on lurking all of the streams to see fuckery for myself? I've stated this enough times.

 

Did you know I started lurking comms because I smelled something off, after being invited there in April? I've stated this several times, here, in comms itself, and in the qr stream.

 

I do not have a problem with you as a baker, never have. My problem with you has been wrapping me up in things I have not condoned or done. Every single time something happened in /comms/ I did not like, I spoke up about it.

 

I was thrown out of comms by nightbaker for speaking up in this manner.

 

Now you want to throw me out of qr for doing the same here.

 

Prove me wrong. All of the seminars are viewable.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 27, 2020, 2:59 p.m. No.11311170   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>1249 >>5860

>>11311027

 

seen. Please understand that:

 

1) I'll offer relief if I have time for the bake. I will only step up on short notice if I see a need for an ebake.

2) I do not have a problem with your bakes, I've just not been around to offer before someone else does.

 

I cannot take bakes if I don't feel I can finish them, it isn't right. It would be a disservice.

I'm actually glad I got to answer your bv question before the bo did; I wouldn't have volunteered even if asked. They have enough drama to deal with.

 

>>11311129

 

So only you can be everywhere? That's pretty whack, kekโ€ฆ They all know and have known that I will not do groupthink.

 

Why do you think I flatly refused to get a bin?

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 27, 2020, 3:32 p.m. No.11311775   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5792

>>11311666

 

nb specifically taunted me on 10.2 into an ambush which resulted in split bakes on the morning of 10.5.

 

Since I offered a by the book handoff to even get the bake, I consider what happened after the first bake in the run, an ambush.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 29, 2020, 7:40 a.m. No.11342838   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>11328448

 

yep. I've pretty much taken the opinion that if the clowns wanna bakeโ€ฆ They will bake. They know that the only real way to get rid of them is to lock down the bakeโ€ฆ

 

But doing that puts any given baker in the bad boy box. There's so much bread now it's pointless to even offer now at some times.

 

So the clowns will bake. Despite anyone's best intentions.

 

But. If they fuck up at all, they will get shitposted at mercilessly. Is it spam? Maybe. The BO/BV's can look at my post history and decide who I am for themselves based on the content, and I'm not ashamed of that. None of it was gross or illegal.

 

Why do it? Certainly not because they are baking; They are 'clowns injecting shit that is not anon; Becauseโ€ฆ "Anyone can bake". Since the clowns get paid to do it, they better be fucking perfect at it.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 29, 2020, 9:26 a.m. No.11343985   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>4024

>>11343614

 

I've pretty much come to the idea that the bo is trying to do something about it, they can only do so much without interfering with anons, themselves.

 

Welcome to the suck, indeed.

 

I do not care if others do not like my opinions in the stream, I will be giving them. Loudly. All set with being part of the silent majority. That didn't work. If I'm a "shill" for doing thatโ€ฆ Too bad.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 29, 2020, 3:33 p.m. No.11348750   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8935 >>9417

>>11348466

 

1) confirmed. saw animefag tripfag to the /miku/ board on one occasion, and /rule34/ on another occasion, so:

2) you can tripfag on any board that allows it, but:

3) single whack tripcodes are very easily cracked. Sooo it's not really a security measure as implemented by them, they're literally just tripfagging to do it. If they were serious they wouldn't have generated their custom one. imo.

 

That is all.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 30, 2020, 12:35 p.m. No.11363193   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3458

 

This is why this whole this is fake and quite gay:

 

Historically, if an anon wants to prove they can bakeโ€ฆ They have gone and picked up a ghost during graveyard shift. When /qr/ needs it the most.. And then screencapped the bake with a you and a timestamp.

 

Well, holy shit. There's your anon work history, faggots. You just validated your fucking selves.

 

For fucks sake, stop being so fucking helpless.

Anonymous ID: aea5be Oct. 30, 2020, 8:06 p.m. No.11369255   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>11366953

 

I didn't really consider who it might be, just saw a baker trying to be a hypocrite about work history by pretending that phonefagging a written message to a new bread is not a chain of authorship.

 

It's a crude chain of authorship to be sure, but it still is one.

 

From my perspective, the baker wanted to play semantics games; A rose is still a rose, even if it's sitting on a shitpile :)

 

Interesting that they baked all day. So the "Rocky Montage" is telling.